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The atheist position does not make any logical sense. You cannot look at the human body, which is a work of art and say that it came to be by chance. As a rule of life things are always going from order to disorder. The probability of life happening by chance is more than a billion years. Richard Dawkins believes aliens are more likely than God.

Are you certain there are no aliens anywhere?


No, aliens, but there are angels and demons and sometimes people do encounter them.

How can you be so certain there are no aliens in any galaxy anywhere?


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The atheist position does not make any logical sense. You cannot look at the human body, which is a work of art and say that it came to be by chance. As a rule of life things are always going from order to disorder. The probability of life happening by chance is more than a billion years. Richard Dawkins believes aliens are more likely than God.

Are you certain there are no aliens anywhere?


No, aliens, but there are angels and demons and sometimes people do encounter them.
Aliens existing is virtually scientific fact. The odds are so small that life doesn't exist outside of our planet that it's not even worth considering.

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The atheist position does not make any logical sense. You cannot look at the human body, which is a work of art and say that it came to be by chance. As a rule of life things are always going from order to disorder. The probability of life happening by chance is more than a billion years. Richard Dawkins believes aliens are more likely than God.

This post is full of wrong. On many levels.

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Why, I find that an inspiration. I am working towards that too.


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rogers park bryan wrote:
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The atheist position does not make any logical sense. You cannot look at the human body, which is a work of art and say that it came to be by chance. As a rule of life things are always going from order to disorder. The probability of life happening by chance is more than a billion years. Richard Dawkins believes aliens are more likely than God.

Are you certain there are no aliens anywhere?


No, aliens, but there are angels and demons and sometimes people do encounter them.

How can you be so certain there are no aliens in any galaxy anywhere?


Because there is no mention of aliens in the Bible and because the universe was created by God for human beings to reside in and explore. There are basically two types of creatures: human beings and heavenly beings. If there were aliens God would have mentioned them because he would have created them.

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Mini Ditka wrote:
The atheist position does not make any logical sense. You cannot look at the human body, which is a work of art and say that it came to be by chance. As a rule of life things are always going from order to disorder. The probability of life happening by chance is more than a billion years. Richard Dawkins believes aliens are more likely than God.


This thread is about Steve Harvey. If you want to talk about Richard Dawkins or any other Family Feud hosts, start a new topic.

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How can you be so certain there are no aliens in any galaxy anywhere?


Because there is no mention of aliens in the Bible



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Because there is no mention of aliens in the Bible and because the universe was created by God for human beings to reside in and explore. There are basically two types of creatures: human beings and heavenly beings. If there were aliens God would have mentioned them because he would have created them.
What if gay people are aliens?

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Because there is no mention of aliens in the Bible and because the universe was created by God for human beings to reside in and explore. There are basically two types of creatures: human beings and heavenly beings. If there were aliens God would have mentioned them because he would have created them.

There is no mention of bacteria in the bible either. Does bacteria not exist?
Atoms were not mentioned in the bible.

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You know what is mentioned in the Bible? Talking animals.

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Other things that don't exist because they're not mentioned in the bible:

North America
Jupiter
Saturn
Pretty much anything outside of the middle east

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Aliens existing is virtually scientific fact. The odds are so small that life doesn't exist outside of our planet that it's not even worth considering.


In order for aliens to exist they would have to have been created by God. That's why Dawkins fails to understand. You don't get nothing from nothing. You always start with something. You need to have an uncaused cause to even create the world.

The problem for scientists and a lot of other people is that they think God is within their comprehension. So they don't understand how he could create the world in 7 days. It's actually very simple. The Bible says that he spoke the world into existence. And time is a creature. God is not bound by time. He could create all of human history in a fraction of a second if he so decided.

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Because there is no mention of aliens in the Bible and because the universe was created by God for human beings to reside in and explore. There are basically two types of creatures: human beings and heavenly beings. If there were aliens God would have mentioned them because he would have created them.

I see. Well, I certainly admire your faith


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The problem for scientists and a lot of other people is that they think God is within their comprehension. So they don't understand how he could create the world in 7 days. It's actually very simple. The Bible says that he spoke the world into existence. And time is a creature. God is not bound by time. He could create all of human history in a fraction of a second if he so decided.

If God is not bound by time, why would it take 7 days to create existence?

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Aliens existing is virtually scientific fact. The odds are so small that life doesn't exist outside of our planet that it's not even worth considering.


In order for aliens to exist they would have to have been created by God. That's why Dawkins fails to understand. You don't get nothing from nothing. You always start with something. You need to have an uncaused cause to even create the world.

The problem for scientists and a lot of other people is that they think God is within their comprehension. So they don't understand how he could create the world in 7 days. It's actually very simple. The Bible says that he spoke the world into existence. And time is a creature. God is not bound by time. He could create all of human history in a fraction of a second if he so decided.


How do you know Darkside is not God?

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Psalm 8:3-7: "3 When I consider your heavens, the work of your fingers, the moon and the stars, which you have set in place, 4 what is man that you are mindful of him, the son of man that you care for him? 5 You made him a little lower than the heavenly beings and crowned him with glory and honor. 6 You made him ruler over the works of your hands; you put everything under his feet: 7 all flocks and herds, and the beasts of the field, 8 the birds of the air, and the fish of the sea, all that swim the paths of the seas."

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Because there is no mention of aliens in the Bible and because the universe was created by God for human beings to reside in and explore. There are basically two types of creatures: human beings and heavenly beings. If there were aliens God would have mentioned them because he would have created them.

I see. Well, I certainly admire your faith

Honestly I don't. It's strangling him.

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Psalm 8:3-7: "3 When I consider your heavens, the work of your fingers, the moon and the stars, which you have set in place, 4 what is man that you are mindful of him, the son of man that you care for him? 5 You made him a little lower than the heavenly beings and crowned him with glory and honor. 6 You made him ruler over the works of your hands; you put everything under his feet: 7 all flocks and herds, and the beasts of the field, 8 the birds of the air, and the fish of the sea, all that swim the paths of the seas."

What does this mean to this conversation?

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Mini Ditka wrote:
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Aliens existing is virtually scientific fact. The odds are so small that life doesn't exist outside of our planet that it's not even worth considering.


In order for aliens to exist they would have to have been created by God. That's why Dawkins fails to understand. You don't get nothing from nothing. You always start with something. You need to have an uncaused cause to even create the world.

The problem for scientists and a lot of other people is that they think God is within their comprehension. So they don't understand how he could create the world in 7 days. It's actually very simple. The Bible says that he spoke the world into existence. And time is a creature. God is not bound by time. He could create all of human history in a fraction of a second if he so decided.


How do you know Darkside is not God?

A god. Not THE god.

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Darkside wrote:
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Mini Ditka wrote:
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Aliens existing is virtually scientific fact. The odds are so small that life doesn't exist outside of our planet that it's not even worth considering.


In order for aliens to exist they would have to have been created by God. That's why Dawkins fails to understand. You don't get nothing from nothing. You always start with something. You need to have an uncaused cause to even create the world.

The problem for scientists and a lot of other people is that they think God is within their comprehension. So they don't understand how he could create the world in 7 days. It's actually very simple. The Bible says that he spoke the world into existence. And time is a creature. God is not bound by time. He could create all of human history in a fraction of a second if he so decided.


How do you know Darkside is not God?

A god. Not THE god.


I think Mini Ditka is a monotheist. But people like to have more than one God. So there's this neat little trick in the Christian Bible where they fold three Gods into one.

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In order for aliens to exist they would have to have been created by God. That's why Dawkins fails to understand. You don't get nothing from nothing. You always start with something. You need to have an uncaused cause to even create the world.
It's pretty simple. We can see and have knowledge of the world beyond our own. Statistically, it is virtually impossible that aliens don't exist. Unless of course you think those other planets and stars don't exist either.
Mini Ditka wrote:
The problem for scientists and a lot of other people is that they think God is within their comprehension. So they don't understand how he could create the world in 7 days. It's actually very simple. The Bible says that he spoke the world into existence. And time is a creature. God is not bound by time. He could create all of human history in a fraction of a second if he so decided.
Well, if the Bible says it then it must be true.

Have any animals talked to you today?

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The problem for scientists and a lot of other people is that they think God is within their comprehension. So they don't understand how he could create the world in 7 days. It's actually very simple. The Bible says that he spoke the world into existence. And time is a creature. God is not bound by time. He could create all of human history in a fraction of a second if he so decided.

If God is not bound by time, why would it take 7 days to create existence?


I think the seven days were how long he decided a week should be. I think he was setting up a framework for a week for mankind and for the Sabbath to be a day of rest. He certainly could have done it quicker or slower. He's not bound by the laws of time as we are here on Earth.

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Because there is no mention of aliens in the Bible and because the universe was created by God for human beings to reside in and explore. There are basically two types of creatures: human beings and heavenly beings. If there were aliens God would have mentioned them because he would have created them.

I see. Well, I certainly admire your faith

Honestly I don't. It's strangling him.

Well, being raised catholic, the hardest part for me was faith. Knowing. He's doing what I could not


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The problem for scientists and a lot of other people is that they think God is within their comprehension. So they don't understand how he could create the world in 7 days. It's actually very simple. The Bible says that he spoke the world into existence. And time is a creature. God is not bound by time. He could create all of human history in a fraction of a second if he so decided.

If God is not bound by time, why would it take 7 days to create existence?


I think the seven days were how long he decided a week should be. I think he was setting up a framework for a week for mankind and for the Sabbath to be a day of rest. He certainly could have done it quicker or slower. He's not bound by the laws of time as we are here on Earth.


Which day of the week is the Sabbath?

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I think Mini Ditka is a monotheist. But people like to have more than one God. So there's this neat little trick in the Christian Bible where they fold three Gods into one.


People are tripart beings made of soul, body and spirit who are made in the image of God. It's not a stretch to say God is the Father (the soul), the Son (the body) and the Holy Spirit (the spirit).

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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The problem for scientists and a lot of other people is that they think God is within their comprehension. So they don't understand how he could create the world in 7 days. It's actually very simple. The Bible says that he spoke the world into existence. And time is a creature. God is not bound by time. He could create all of human history in a fraction of a second if he so decided.

If God is not bound by time, why would it take 7 days to create existence?


I think the seven days were how long he decided a week should be. I think he was setting up a framework for a week for mankind and for the Sabbath to be a day of rest. He certainly could have done it quicker or slower. He's not bound by the laws of time as we are here on Earth.


Which day of the week is the Sabbath?


Saturday. Sunday is the Lord's Day and is celebrated by Christians because Christ rose from the dead on a Sunday.

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If Adam and Eve were created in God's image and they were perfect, how did they make a mistake?


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The problem for scientists and a lot of other people is that they think God is within their comprehension. So they don't understand how he could create the world in 7 days. It's actually very simple. The Bible says that he spoke the world into existence. And time is a creature. God is not bound by time. He could create all of human history in a fraction of a second if he so decided.

If God is not bound by time, why would it take 7 days to create existence?


I think the seven days were how long he decided a week should be. I think he was setting up a framework for a week for mankind and for the Sabbath to be a day of rest. He certainly could have done it quicker or slower. He's not bound by the laws of time as we are here on Earth.

So he didn't create the universe in 7 days. He did it in 6. And you're saying he created the world in 6 days to help man figure out how long a week was... but he didn't create man until after taking 6 days then a day of rest and deciding that while it was good... something was missing. Then, later, he created man. So it couldn't have. En done in 6 days plus a rest day to give us easy calendars.
Also why would something with incomprehensible power need to rest?

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Which day of the week is the Sabbath?


Saturday. Sunday is the Lord's Day and is celebrated by Christians because Christ rose from the dead on a Sunday.


Huh? Didn't God order you to "Keep holy the Sabbath"? You Christians have got mighty big sets of balls on you to take it upon yourselves to switch the Sabbath to Sunday.

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