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 Post subject: Re: Hot Stove- 2014
PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 3:10 pm 
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K-rod signs with the Brewers.

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K-rod signs with the Brewers.

You better have the terms of this deal and the PERMISSION to post it.

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 Post subject: Re: Hot Stove- 2014
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 Post subject: Re: Hot Stove- 2014
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He signed for 2yrs/$19M. There is an option in 2016 for $11M with a $4.5 million buyout.

This is a nice signing by the D'Bags. The buyout is a bit much but if he gives them a couple good years they will have no problem paying it. This deal takes the D'Bags out of the Jeff Samardzija sweepstakes.


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 Post subject: Re: Hot Stove- 2014
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AJ Burnett signed a 1 yr/$16M contract with the Phillies.

I'm really surprised the Pirates didn't match this offer. Burnett could end up being the best free agent signing of the off season.


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 Post subject: Re: Hot Stove- 2014
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Burnett could end up being the best free agent signing of the off season.

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 Post subject: Re: Hot Stove- 2014
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Burnett is getting 16 million this year? :lol:

And people complain about the money Edwin Jackson is getting

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 Post subject: Re: Hot Stove- 2014
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
Burnett could end up being the best free agent signing of the off season.

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Good catch. I meant to say best free agent pitcher signing of the off season.


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 Post subject: Re: Hot Stove- 2014
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Burnett is getting 16 million this year? :lol:

And people complain about the money Edwin Jackson is getting

I think it's less the money with Edwin and more the fact that he's awful. You would get the same result letting Dustin Diamond out there every 5th day.

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 Post subject: Re: Hot Stove- 2014
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Burnett is getting 16 million this year? :lol:

And people complain about the money Edwin Jackson is getting

I think it's less the money with Edwin and more the fact that he's awful. You would get the same result letting Dustin Diamond out there every 5th day.


Screech brings his own bat to the games, though.


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 Post subject: Re: Hot Stove- 2014
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The Orioles have agreed with RHP Ubaldo Jimenez on a reported 4yr/$48M contract.

The deal is in line with some of the other awful contracts handed out this off season but this one is extra bad because it costs the O's their 1st round pick (17th overall) and Jimenez sucks. Have fun in the AL east.


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 Post subject: Re: Hot Stove- 2014
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The Orioles have agreed with RHP Ubaldo Jimenez on a reported 4yr/$48M contract.

The deal is in line with some of the other awful contracts handed out this off season but this one is extra bad because it costs the O's their 1st round pick (17th overall) and Jimenez sucks. Have fun in the AL east.


What in the hell is Baltimore thinking?

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 Post subject: Re: Hot Stove- 2014
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Have heard this same bullshit rhetoric from almost every player only to see them the biggest deal they had on the table when it gets down to it. We'll see what Lester's words mean when he actually signs a deal somewhere. Im going to go ahead and say it'll be the largest offer from Team X.

FORT MYERS, Fla. -- Last month, Jon Lester revealed that he would be willing to take a hometown discount in contract extension talks with the Red Sox.

Monday, he didn't back off that same message.

"I'm not going to go back on what I said,'' said Lester after pitchers and catchers had their first official workout. "I said what I said from the heart and I mean it. We'll see where it goes from there. We still have a long way to go.''

Lester added that there's not much to report on negotiations. They'll take place later this spring.

"The status is what it is right now,'' said Lester. "I've got a year left on my contract and I'm going to play it out. As far as us talking to the front office, we haven't sat down. There's going to be a time and a place for that. But that's not really something I'm concerned about right now. I've got to be ready about getting ready for the season -- physically and mentally -- and let the guys that I pay to handle that, handle that.

"If it's something we do get done during spring training, great. If it's not, I think you have to take everything as it comes. If that involves going through the season and still talking, we'll just kind of play it by ear and see what happens.''

A year ago, Jacoby Ellsbury wouldn't commit to saying that he preferred to stay in Boston, deflecting the question when it was asked. But Lester leaves little doubt about the fact that his first choice is Boston.

"I usually don't say things I don't mean,'' he said. "I mean it. I want to stay here. This is all I've known. I don't like change. I don't like going into new places that I have to learn. If I had to go out to Arizona right now and find my way around and meet new people and have new teammates and all -- I mean, I can deal with three or four new teammates, not a whole squad of them. That would be kind of tough for me.

"I meant what I said. There's no getting around it. I want to be here until the end (of my career) and see this thing out.''

Lester also made clear, however, that he intends to stay clear of the contract talks himself until they near a critical point.

"I think the biggest thing you have to watch out for,'' he said, "is getting too emotionally caught up in the process of a contract negotiation.''

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 Post subject: Re: Hot Stove- 2014
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Keyser Soze wrote:
The Orioles have agreed with RHP Ubaldo Jimenez on a reported 4yr/$48M contract.

The deal is in line with some of the other awful contracts handed out this off season but this one is extra bad because it costs the O's their 1st round pick (17th overall) and Jimenez sucks. Have fun in the AL east.


Gets slightly worse. It's actually 4/$50M.


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 Post subject: Re: Hot Stove- 2014
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Wow, that is special bad and I didn't like the Garza signing. The Breweres didn't lose a draft pick and I think have the better pitcher.

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 Post subject: Re: Hot Stove- 2014
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I don't know why players across every sport develop the counter to hometown discount that places the onus on management rather than individual: something like "the loyalty bonus".

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 Post subject: Re: Hot Stove- 2014
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Reds give Homer Bailey 6 yrs/105 million...yikes...


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 Post subject: Re: Hot Stove- 2014
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lipidquadcab wrote:
Reds give Homer Bailey 6 yrs/105 million...yikes...

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 Post subject: Re: Hot Stove- 2014
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It gets better...

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The deal comes with a mutual option for a seventh year worth $25 million with a $5 million buyout.


http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/report--homer-bailey--reds-agree-to--105-million-extension-for-six-years-185419205.html


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 Post subject: Re: Hot Stove- 2014
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Wow, people are dumb. He has to be laughing all the way to the bank.

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 Post subject: Re: Hot Stove- 2014
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Charlie Sheen predicted a Cy Young at some point for Homer Bailey last year


Immediately after that he went on a great run.


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rogers park bryan wrote:
Charlie Sheen predicted a Cy Young at some point for Homer Bailey last year


Immediately after that he went on a great run.

Worst endorsement of all time, of all time I tell ya.

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 Post subject: Re: Hot Stove- 2014
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Hawg Ass wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Charlie Sheen predicted a Cy Young at some point for Homer Bailey last year


Immediately after that he went on a great run.

Worst endorsement of all time, of all time I tell ya.

Bailey has gotten better every year the last 3. Its too much money but he's a good pitcher.


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 Post subject: Re: Hot Stove- 2014
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rogers park bryan wrote:
Hawg Ass wrote:
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Charlie Sheen predicted a Cy Young at some point for Homer Bailey last year


Immediately after that he went on a great run.

Worst endorsement of all time, of all time I tell ya.

Bailey has gotten better every year the last 3. Its too much money but he's a good pitcher.

I just don't see anyway you pay him that type of dollar right now.

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Joe Giglio ‏@JoeGiglioSports 41m
Great job by the Reds to lock up Homer Bailey. In '13, only 6 SPs had seasons of 200-plus IP, 8.5 SO/9 and 3.5 SO/BB. He was one of them.



Beyond the Box Score ‏@BtBScore 56m
Steamer projects Homer Bailey for 2.4 fWAR in 2014.
Some other pitchers who have the same projection:
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rogers park bryan wrote:
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Great job by the Reds to lock up Homer Bailey. In '13, only 6 SPs had seasons of 200-plus IP, 8.5 SO/9 and 3.5 SO/BB. He was one of them.



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Steamer projects Homer Bailey for 2.4 fWAR in 2014.
Some other pitchers who have the same projection:
T. Cingrani
A. Cashner
E. Jackson

:lol:

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Hawg Ass wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Joe Giglio ‏@JoeGiglioSports 41m
Great job by the Reds to lock up Homer Bailey. In '13, only 6 SPs had seasons of 200-plus IP, 8.5 SO/9 and 3.5 SO/BB. He was one of them.



Beyond the Box Score ‏@BtBScore 56m
Steamer projects Homer Bailey for 2.4 fWAR in 2014.
Some other pitchers who have the same projection:
T. Cingrani
A. Cashner
E. Jackson

:lol:

Bailey is making 3-4 million more per year than Jackson and Garza


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I don't know Hawgaroo. I think Bailey is a pretty good bet going forward. He's only 27 years old and he's getting better. The cost of good starting pitching is really really really high. Hell the cost for bad starting pitching is really high.


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Keyser Soze wrote:
I don't know Hawgaroo. I think Bailey is a pretty good bet going forward. He's only 27 years old and he's getting better. The cost of good starting pitching is really really really high. Hell the cost for bad starting pitching is really high.

Well in a few years hopefully one of us remembers to come back to this thread and be proven right or wrong.


RPB I know, I just don't like the contract at all.

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Agree with Keyser


Many thought the Cubs signing Ted Lily for 10 mil per year was crazy. By year 3 it was considered a bargain


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