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As far as lifetime achievement, he's the third best Bull I've ever seen. You?

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What did he ever do to you?

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What the fuck are you talking about....you must be 9 years old! Damn

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As far as lifetime achievement, he's the third best Bull I've ever seen. You?

Sounds about right. I'd be pretty pissed if they traded him. I wouldn't even be upset if they traded anyone else on the roster.

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As far as lifetime achievement, he's the third best Bull I've ever seen. You?

Sounds about right. I'd be pretty pissed if they traded him. I wouldn't even be upset if they traded anyone else on the roster.

Heaven help me...Nas anyone RPB....HELP

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What the fuck are you talking about....you must be 9 years old! Damn

I'm 29. List your top ten if you don't agree. Can't wait.

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As far as lifetime achievement, he's the third best Bull I've ever seen. You?

Sounds about right. I'd be pretty pissed if they traded him. I wouldn't even be upset if they traded anyone else on the roster.


Yeah, it would depend on the trade for me, but I love the guy. All heart.

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He's one of my favorite players in the league but he isn't in the top 5 Bulls of players I've seen play. I wouldn't want them to trade him unless they were getting a superstar in return.

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He's one of my favorite players in the league but he isn't in the top 5 Bulls of players I've seen play. I wouldn't want them to trade him unless they were getting a superstar in return.


Let me clarify... I mean as far as career accomplishment. Rose was better but his career is too short-lived. He's the most accomplished Bull since the 90's, IMO.

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What the fuck are you talking about....you must be 9 years old! Damn

I'm 29. List your top ten if you don't agree. Can't wait.


Jordan
Pippen
Walker
Love
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What the fuck are you talking about....you must be 9 years old! Damn

I'm 29. List your top ten if you don't agree. Can't wait.


Jordan
Pippen
Walker
Love
Rodman
Gilmore
Sloan
Van Lier
Rose
Deng


I could pick nit with a lot of those, but a simpler explanation would be that I'm not 80.

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he hustles all the time, great leader, but everyone hustles in the playoffs.

Should be Silvers first agenda, make the season mean more and tanking less...9 and 10 need to win something

1. Jordan
2. Pippen
3. Gilmore
4. Love - More on legend, cause cant say I remember him.
5. Reggie The US -
6. Toni Kukoc -
7. Norm
8. Boerwinkle - also legend
9. Noah
10. MVP

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I don't know. Would you take a 26 year old Kukoc or a 26 year old Noah? Keep in mind that "best center" type arguments are not persuasive since it's not fair to elevate Noah on that list simply due to the lack of competition. For example he's top three at his position today perhaps, but nowhere close in the mid nineties.

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He is not even the 5th best center on Bulls all time.

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No rodman....grant way before rodman....dennis was on the downside when he came here.

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I don't know. Would you take a 26 year old Kukoc or a 26 year old Noah? Keep in mind that "best center" type arguments are not persuasive since it's not fair to elevate Noah on that list simply due to the lack of competition. For example he's top three at his position today perhaps, but nowhere close in the mid nineties.

Lifetime achievement. Big difference in the argument.

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No rodman....grant way before rodman....dennis was on the downside when he came here.

No way Biggie. Rodman was still a beast. Way better than Grant.

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What the fuck are you talking about....you must be 9 years old! Damn

I'm 29. List your top ten if you don't agree. Can't wait.


Jordan
Pippen
Walker
Love
Rodman
Gilmore
Sloan
Van Lier
Rose
Deng


I could pick nit with a lot of those, but a simpler explanation would be that I'm not 80.

So Being older makes me wrong? Maybe not knowing the history of the game makes you an ignorant son of a bitch!

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...baseball can't get here soon enough.

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Ughhh....I am serious when I ask this, how old are you? or more direct, how old were you when you watched Horace?

Horace was part of a full court pressing defense, Rodman was not part of that at all and NO, Rodman was not a beast here. he rode the coat tails.

Fact is, SA didnt want him around that is why they traded Perdue for him.

Rodman was a great element for that team. His rebounding fit in perfect, but he was not A BEAST, he knows it, I know it, they knew it. Etc

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So Being older makes me wrong? Maybe not knowing the history of the game makes you an ignorant son of a bitch!


Please see the original post. I said "I've ever seen. " I thought they taught reading, even in the 50's.

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I would trade Rose before I traded Noah.

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...baseball can't get here soon enough.



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Ughhh....I am serious when I ask this, how old are you? or more direct, how old were you when you watched Horace?

Horace was part of a full court pressing defense, Rodman was not part of that at all and NO, Rodman was not a beast here. he rode the coat tails.

Fact is, SA didnt want him around that is why they traded Perdue for him.

Rodman was a great element for that team. His rebounding fit in perfect, but he was not A BEAST, he knows it, I know it, they knew it. Etc


Jesus... get the fuck outta here with that. If you look up like 5 posts, you'd see that I'm 29. And I watched the Bulls religiously during the 90's. It's not me saying this based on some pop culture shit. It's because I watched them and I still watch their games from the 90's. Rodman did a ton of shit for that team. It wasn't just rebounding... he was first team all-NBA defense in '96, and he deserved it. The playoff round against the Magic in '96, Rodman was unbelievable... frustrated the shit out of Shaq. Grant was good - especially with offensive rebounding... could also hit the occasional 18-foot jumper. But he was no Rodman. Think about it. You had an old Jordan and an aging Pippen, and they won 72 games. Think the supporting case was decent? Get the fuck outta here with the age comments.

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Anyone who says he's only a hustle player doesn't watch the games. And if they do, they either don't like him or don't understand basketball.

Passing, rebounding, and defense are all A grades. He runs the floor better than almost anyone. He can handle the ball as well as almost any big man. He's average at scoring, and that's his worst area. There's no question I'd rather have him than Kukoc at the same age.

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What the fuck are you talking about....you must be 9 years old! Damn

I'm 29. List your top ten if you don't agree. Can't wait.


Jordan
Pippen
Walker
Love
Rodman
Gilmore
Sloan
Van Lier
Rose
Deng


I could pick nit with a lot of those, but a simpler explanation would be that I'm not 80.

:lol:

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He is not even the 5th best center on Bulls all time.

That's just silly

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Anyone who says he's only a hustle player doesn't watch the games. And if they do, they either don't like him or don't understand basketball.

Passing, rebounding, and defense are all A grades. He runs the floor better than almost anyone. He can handle the ball as well as almost any big man. He's average at scoring, and that's his worst area. There's no question I'd rather have him than Kukoc at the same age.


He does so many great things that will never show up on a stat sheet. If he were an average scorer he would be a top 10 player.

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Anyone who says he's only a hustle player doesn't watch the games. And if they do, they either don't like him or don't understand basketball.

Passing, rebounding, and defense are all A grades. He runs the floor better than almost anyone. He can handle the ball as well as almost any big man. He's average at scoring, and that's his worst area. There's no question I'd rather have him than Kukoc at the same age.


I dont think anyone says he is "JUST" a hustle player, but he gives all he has, every game and most NBA players dont. While I think he should be given credit for that in terms of true NBA ALL STAR, I dont think is more talented that many other players, but he works harder and thus the results are always there.

When it comes to the playoffs the gap between him and others shrinks.

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