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Surprises are for kids' birthday parties.

IMO, How it is depicted is much more interesting than simply what goes down

Right, but you wanted Breaking Bad to end as a dream, so....


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Q.Bovifs wrote:
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Surprises are for kids' birthday parties.

IMO, How it is depicted is much more interesting than simply what goes down

Right, but you wanted Breaking Bad to end as a dream, so....

Oh hells yah!

I just like to go in fresh on these things. I avoid trailers for movies I want to see, too


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So the finale is 2 hours long, according to Jay Zawaski. That gives me a bit more hope of a complete, it not altogether clean, resolution to everything.


Yes, this is incredibly important news. I don't know what these news outlets think they are doing but I guess unless Putin says it, it's not news. DO YOUR JOB!

This makes me rethink how much resolution we will be getting. I'm more hopeful.


According to HBO.com, the finale is only 55 minutes. You can look it up on the schedule.

Incidentally, I have begun reading Pizzolatto's novel, Galveston. I'm only about 20 pages in, but it is amazing so far. The guy is a master of the hardboiled vernacular.


The guy is going to have to do an amazing job of heavy lifting to tie everything up that is still out there in one hour of time. I think it kind of lost steam on the last two episodes and I expect the ending to follow suit.

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It didn't lose anything.....the dialogue was great. The change in the characters from different time periods was well done.

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Found this on reddit. Thought it was pretty cool, but at this point, like many others; I'm obsessing over every little detail to the point I'm reading way too much into things.

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Lots of wild theories on things like. Most look to be Red Herrings. People have spent a ton of time on the symbolism of Marty's daughters and his ex-father in law.

I think it's less complicated than all that because the writer said he was surprised by all the wild theories on the Internet. I am just enjoying the ride along the way. I am not worried about some grand ending as this can never live up to all the hype. I just don't see a Seven type surprise. I think a few more deaths are the most likely "surprises".

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I hope we are not setting ourselves up for too big a disappointment.

I just cannot see how things can be wrapped up in a satisfactory way in an episode of less than an hour.

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I think no matter the conclusion, some will feel let down and they'll be vocal about it. I'm someone who likes questions answered for the most part when it comes to storytelling. I want to know who the five, (I'm assuming men) under the hood are. I want an image or description of the Yellow King. Carcosa should be explored. To me, not doing so would be a wasted opportunity. There's just so much gold to mine from that built up mythology.

Also, I just can't see Marty's daughter being portrayed the way she has been and there not being some payoff to that storyline. There's too many dots not to connect. From the dolls, to the drawings, to the tiara, to the meds and finally the painting with black stars and a yellow crown. Marty, he of the detective's curse, maybe buys one of her paintings after thinking all is well and becomes horrified at what he sees as the picture fades to black.


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I can't wait to re-watch 8 straight hours of True Detective after Sunday.


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I've come to believe that the daughter's story is over. The dolls were just in Marty's mind as that reddit post showed they weren't really staged that way in the earlier shot.

I hope I'm wrong because that would be weak.

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Damn: a lot of shit still pointing to Marty, too!

http://www.reddit.com/r/TrueDetective/c ... y_100_the/

Did you guys know that Tuttle and Mary both supposedly wear red jeweled rings on their right hand that they supposedly turn before shaking hands in ep 1?


Funny you bring that up. Were these marks made by a ring? Or is it just signs of Meth abuse?

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This thread is almost as good as the show


Maybe I missed it and its a long shot but what if this is all just a story Hart is writing in the True Crime genre?


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rogers park bryan wrote:
This thread is almost as good as the show


Maybe I missed it and its a long shot but what if this is all just a story Hart is writing in the True Crime genre?


That's one ending I would be disappointed in. My feeling is Rust has been undercover this whole time. In the first episode someone in the office remarks that he may be IA and Cole himself states there's no expiration date to his situation.


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rogers park bryan wrote:
This thread is almost as good as the show


Maybe I missed it and its a long shot but what if this is all just a story Hart is writing in the True Crime genre?


I think that's what Pizzolatto was referring to when he said he wasn't tricking the audience. Not that there wouldn't be some twists, but rather that he hasn't been flat out lying to you about what's going on in the first 7 episodes. It sounds like The Usual Suspects pissed him off. :lol: :lol:

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Could the old broad in the preview be Marty's mother-in-law?

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I'm more curious as to why he has a picture of McConaughey circa Contact tattooed on him.

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I'm more curious as to why he has a picture of McConaughey circa Contact tattooed on him.

That should be explained if its not that's a little too much of a red herring


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rogers park bryan wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
I'm more curious as to why he has a picture of McConaughey circa Contact tattooed on him.

That should be explained if its not that's a little too much of a red herring


http://www.uproxx.com/tv/2014/02/guide-reggie-ledouxs-tattoos-true-detective/


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http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/03/05/craziest-theories-of-how-true-detective-will-end-killer-marty-the-five-horsemen-and-more.html
Good stuff here and some funny


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Q.Bovifs wrote:
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Lots of wild theories on things like. Most look to be Red Herrings. People have spent a ton of time on the symbolism of Marty's daughters and his ex-father in law.

I think it's less complicated than all that because the writer said he was surprised by all the wild theories on the Internet. I am just enjoying the ride along the way. I am not worried about some grand ending as this can never live up to all the hype. I just don't see a Seven type surprise. I think a few more deaths are the most likely "surprises".

I also read some thing suggesting Maggie has an ominous role, what with her yellow flowers and father and such.

Also, maybe she deliberately sent that whore in to corrupt Marty so she could create a rift and break up their case - remember she ordered the same drink?

Funny timing, as it was right when Rust was starting to re-open the investigation. That would fit the definition as being "right under the nose", ay?

http://gothamist.com/2014/03/05/maggie_ ... ective.php

http://www.ibtimes.com/true-detective-s ... e-involved


He met her by chance at a phone store. That seems like a stretch when Hart would pretty much bang anything under the age of 30 that showed interest in him.

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I've come to believe that the daughter's story is over. The dolls were just in Marty's mind as that reddit post showed they weren't really staged that way in the earlier shot.

I hope I'm wrong because that would be weak.


really, really weak

You cannot point so often to something in a story and then let it go, unexplained. Yet, if he explains it thoroughly, he will have burned up a good portion of the 55 minutes. She has no previous physical connection to any of this and yet seems to have a collective consciousness with the children who do. The southern gothic would make you think there is some metaphysical connection but the writer isn't going to do that.

I'm still unsatisfied with the former maid giving a strong indication that she was part of the cult but being left alone

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rogers park bryan wrote:
This thread is almost as good as the show


Maybe I missed it and its a long shot but what if this is all just a story Hart is writing in the True Crime genre?


I don't know if someone posted it here but there is a similar (not identical but similar) crime that has come to a head in southern Louisiana right now.

I don't think the writer is basing it on this crime

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Q.Bovifs wrote:
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Q.Bovifs wrote:
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Lots of wild theories on things like. Most look to be Red Herrings. People have spent a ton of time on the symbolism of Marty's daughters and his ex-father in law.

I think it's less complicated than all that because the writer said he was surprised by all the wild theories on the Internet. I am just enjoying the ride along the way. I am not worried about some grand ending as this can never live up to all the hype. I just don't see a Seven type surprise. I think a few more deaths are the most likely "surprises".

I also read some thing suggesting Maggie has an ominous role, what with her yellow flowers and father and such.

Also, maybe she deliberately sent that whore in to corrupt Marty so she could create a rift and break up their case - remember she ordered the same drink?

Funny timing, as it was right when Rust was starting to re-open the investigation. That would fit the definition as being "right under the nose", ay?

http://gothamist.com/2014/03/05/maggie_ ... ective.php

http://www.ibtimes.com/true-detective-s ... e-involved


He met her by chance at a phone store. That seems like a stretch when Hart would pretty much bang anything under the age of 30 that showed interest in him.

I understand that, but, to fit the puzzle piece together, Maggie could have asked him to pick up a phone for her.


That's a lot of machinations when everyone involved with him pretty much knows all she would have to do is bump into him on the street.

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I've come to believe that the daughter's story is over. The dolls were just in Marty's mind as that reddit post showed they weren't really staged that way in the earlier shot.

I hope I'm wrong because that would be weak.


really, really weak

You cannot point so often to something in a story and then let it go, unexplained. Yet, if he explains it thoroughly, he will have burned up a good portion of the 55 minutes.

They'll probably reference it but not explain it and let the viewer put some pieces together


Where is the reddit post with the dolls not positioned that way?


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That's a lot of machinations when everyone involved with him pretty much knows all she would have to do is bump into him on the street.

And the scene of her finding the pics on his phone wouldnt make sense


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I haven't seen anyone mention it but there is a king of the mardi gras festival and one of the colors of mardi gras is yellow.

I don't think there is a Yellow King in the sense of a single person. I think it's just the mythical deity of this cult. There will be no Yellow King. Similarly, I don't think there is a Carcosa other than where they have their alter.

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