Maybe they called him later int he show for Bears talk

but

When Gale said he was offered $27,500 to play for KC and Mike brought up Doug was offered $100,000 to play for San Diego, btu turned it down,

Gale, gave him a NO WAY!

This could go down in legendary Doug Buffone stories! Like his Hole in one that he got on some golf course in Wisconsin, of which he forgot the course and it went in off a tree! I would never forget the course I had a hole in 1! Hell I remember 17th hole at Wilmette, 535 yard par 5 and I eagled it from from about 175 yards out! I vividly remember it! Best shot of my life!

Love Dougie!

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Please don't tell me that Gale Sayers is back as a regular contributor on any show, anywhere. Arguably the most self centered, overrated, least qualified member of the HOF. Will/Does he still have the requirement that he be introduced as the "greatest running back of all time" (just ask him)

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Reader, were you a fan of Sayers when he played or did you always dislike him?

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Or his story about hitting a baseball so hard that he could smell the bat burning. 100 years ago Doug would be like Paul Bunyon or John Henry.

I'm not old enough to remember him, but I never have gotten the Sayers love. Couple that with everything I've ever seen him involved in leaves me feeling that he is nothing but a self-aggrandizing jerk. He played in an era where there was inarguably much less speed and quickness being displayed, but of which he had a relative abundance of. That 'golden age' of football doesn't hold much sway w/me given that it was dominated by a team that basically had what a 12-15 play playbook, wasn't particularly athletic, nor even cerebral (aside from Sid Gillman). He was one of the tallest among relative midgets as far as I am concernned.

His whole game is directly along the lines of say, Reggie Bush, and we all know that his game doesn't quite live up to the hype. Sayers had one season where he ran hard (because he had to), but he always feels that that proves his inherent toughness. No, to me it proves that he was at the end, he knew it, and had to squeeze that last drop out so he could milk his career for as much as possible, post-football.

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I still love to hear Doug and OB talk about how they and the defense argued to play both sides of the ball. Doug is the quintessential wacky uncle who holds court at every family gathering telling old stories. I just wish he played a larger role on the Score.

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Agreed. I love listening to crusty old sports guys.

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We've been through that before. Doug is like a tasty food that only has one season. Eat it out of season and you spoil your opinion of the food.

I prefer to think of Doug like champagne, or at least sparkling wine. Every so often you have a glass, virtually everyone will join in and all will end up with a quick laugh. He's the anti-Gale.

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Kid Cairo wrote:

Reader, were you a fan of Sayers when he played or did you always dislike him?

I'm not old enough to remember him, but I never have gotten the Sayers love. Couple that with everything I've ever seen him involved in leaves me feeling that he is nothing but a self-aggrandizing jerk. He played in an era where there was inarguably much less speed and quickness being displayed, but of which he had a relative abundance of. That 'golden age' of football doesn't hold much sway w/me given that it was dominated by a team that basically had what a 12-15 play playbook, wasn't particularly athletic, nor even cerebral (aside from Sid Gillman). He was one of the tallest among relative midgets as far as I am concernned.

His whole game is directly along the lines of say, Reggie Bush, and we all know that his game doesn't quite live up to the hype. Sayers had one season where he ran hard (because he had to), but he always feels that that proves his inherent toughness. No, to me it proves that he was at the end, he knew it, and had to squeeze that last drop out so he could milk his career for as much as possible, post-football.[/quote]


I guess I'm qualified to respond to this post. Since I'm old enough to remember Sayers, Brown, Payton, Campbell and Bush. Hell I remember the first Super Bowl! Bush vs Sayers is no comparison. There will be another Bush in a few years. Still waiting on another runner like Sayers. He was the best pure running back I've ever seen. In this age of straight- line runners where they don't or can't change directions. Sayers was a freak of nature and could have played in any era. Payton was the best football player I've ever seen!

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I agree with you on Payton, wholeheartedly. I have gotten into a number of arguments on Payton v. Brown, but those same arguments always seemed to run silent when Sayers came up. As if it was not a worthwhile discussion. Perhaps Bush v. Sayers is a bit much, but for pure running ability I've always felt that OJ and Barry Sanders deserved mention before Sayers. Like I mentioned above, in the mid to late 60's football was a more plodding, straight ahead game, with most players suited for that purpose.

I am not arguing that Sayers was not a great player, nor even that he rightly isn't one of the greats of his era, but primarily that he & the era (on an athleticism level) are overrated. He was the most creative and athletic runner of his era, but that era was just post-Neanderthal. I used to make the same argument in a Campbell v. Brown debate with my dad & their friends & it would drive them ballistic and with no meeting of the minds, so we'll likely have to politely agree to disagree.

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O.J. Simpson? He played football?

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Let that name pass, I don't feel like inciting any sports related arguments. But I still stand by my claims.

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There isn't much separating the football players of today compared to yesterday. Because when it boils down to to it. It doesn't get any more Neanderthal than one man lining up across from another and going at it. You still have to beat that guy and all the science and computers in the world won't help you. Only fractions of a second separate the track and field guys of today as opposed to the 60's. Now when we make that big evolutionary jump and the players of today all come out like Urlacher and Steve Smith. It wouldn't be fair to compare the players of now and yesteryear!

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1. Jim Brown - best combo of power and speed ever
2. Gale Sayers - Amazing acceleration, speed and moves, with some size
3. Walter Payton - great moves and power
4. OJ - Speed, some power, mostly speed
5. Barry Sanders - Amazing Moves. Unequalled

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On the track, in any race 200M or shorter, a fraction of a second difference is fairly large. My point still is that in todays game, there are many, many more players with higher end speed, playing in a game where more of an emphasis is placed on speed and quickness in today's game.

However, as a concession here, it's damned funny to look at the top five list suggested here, and perhaps to even expand that out, only Barry Sanders and LT have played in the last 20 years.

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Very uncomfortable listen. Would love a signed Mitchell and Ness #40 on the wall at my HOF room though... right next to a signed to me Grossman picture.

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Gale Sayers...he's an ass.

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That's funny he should say that because Gayle has an incredibly choppy speech pattern. I usually don't care what he says but I also hate the way that he says it.

Maybe Gale is a bitter old man because people like Regular Reader consider Sayers to be the least qualified member in Canton.
Who is more overated: Dick Butkus or Gale Sayers. Is either?
Sayers is horrible as an analyst and he comes off sounding like a jerk on the radio. That shouldn't take away from what he did on the football field.
He scored 24 touchdowns as a rookie, averaged 5.2 yards a carry that season. He rushed for over 1,200 -- 5.4 average -- in 14 games.
Had 880 yards in 1967 in just 13 games.
Was injured in the ninth game in 1968, and he had 856 yards to that point.
The next season, with his leg still in tatters, he rushed for over 1,032 yards. I thought I heard on an NFL Films reel that his longest single carry that year was for around 30 yards.
Knee injuries cut him down the next two years.
An unbelievably-skilled player cut down in the prime of his career by injuries and left to ponder what might-have-been. Wouldn't you have been the least-bit bitter?

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No one ever wishes to address my primary point about him posting numbers in an overrated, mythologized era. He was great, given the competition. He was quick, fast and remarkably creative...for his period. His #'s were great for that brief period, it's a shame (sports-wise) that his career was so brief and he played on a horrible team, talent and coaching wise, but, yeah I still believe that he is one of the most overrated players in Canton.

Compare numbers and eras and then ask yourself this, what would Billy Sims have done had he been in Sayers' shoes. He was a great player, speed, and much more of a bruising runner. He had 40-50 TDs and 5000 yds in less than 5 seasons and I believe that he was every bit the running back that Sayers was plus some. Of course Sims wasn't the Billy "Whiteshoes" of his era (for two seasons), but even if he was, he shouldn't be in the HOF.

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The thing to keep in mind was, they needed someone as an analyst after Payton died. Sayers was available, has a Chicago/hero connection, and has opinions. Yeah he also sounds the bit of a jerk. He probably could have left all questions answered if there were the surgical techniques available then. Now there's some pent up frustrations.

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Compare numbers and eras and then ask yourself this, what would Billy Sims have done had he been in Sayers' shoes.


Billy Sims is to Gale Sayers...
As a T-Bone Steak is to Filet Mignon...

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One clarification. Gayle was talking about his rookie contract, which was what, 1965? Doug said San Diego tried to sign him late in his career, but he took less money to stay with the Bears. This was what, late 70's?
$100K/yr for a solid player in that time was the going rate,

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