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An early draft

1. Aaron Donald, DT, Pitt
2. Kyle Fuller, CB, VT
3. Kareem Martin, DE, UNC
4. Jimmie Ward, S, NIU
5. Aaron Murray, QB, Georgia
6. Max Bullough, MLB, Mich. St.
6. Pat O'Donell, P, Miami

I'm not sure we can get either Murray or Bullough at those spots but I feel pretty good about the others.
-Ward will fall because of he looked weak at the Combine but I want a safety who doesn't have to line up 25 yards downfield on pass plays.
-Martin is all over the board in terms of draft position. I think he has 4th RD production/effort but I don't want to lose out on him.
-I think Murray falls because of injury and competition
-maybe Bullough falls because he had late season off field incidents and because he can only play the run but this guy is a future defensive captain


Sadly, Jimmie Ward will be gone before Rd 2 ends.

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Seacrest wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
An early draft

1. Aaron Donald, DT, Pitt
2. Kyle Fuller, CB, VT
3. Kareem Martin, DE, UNC
4. Jimmie Ward, S, NIU
5. Aaron Murray, QB, Georgia
6. Max Bullough, MLB, Mich. St.
6. Pat O'Donell, P, Miami

I'm not sure we can get either Murray or Bullough at those spots but I feel pretty good about the others.
-Ward will fall because of he looked weak at the Combine but I want a safety who doesn't have to line up 25 yards downfield on pass plays.
-Martin is all over the board in terms of draft position. I think he has 4th RD production/effort but I don't want to lose out on him.
-I think Murray falls because of injury and competition
-maybe Bullough falls because he had late season off field incidents and because he can only play the run but this guy is a future defensive captain


Sadly, Jimmie Ward will be gone before Rd 2 ends.


I would have agreed with you before the Combine. He put up some sad numbers which only accentuated his soft reputation. He had some injury issues as well. All that together I think moves him down the charts. However, I think he has coverage skills that are superior and that is really what is needed most out of a current NFL safety

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I don't think Murray falls that far. He won't make it out of the 4th.

QBs like him get too much press going into the 2nd (I guess 3rd day now) that teams get anxious and grab them early that day.


As someone that spent an extended period living in GA/following UGA football, I normally don't like Bulldog QBs (incl. that clown at Detroit). But I hope the Saints pick him with their 3rd round pick.

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Aaron Donald has experienced the Dontari Poe bounce. Doubt he's around at 14. Who's your new guy?


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I see a lot of mock drafts that have the Bears taking Jernigan from FSU.

What are your thoughts on him dolphin>?

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You asked GD but I don't want Jernigan.


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You asked GD but I don't want Jernigan.

I don't know much about him. What makes you not want him?

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He's one of these guys that I keep hearing is the perfect fit for the Bears. Hub said they should run up to the lectern if he's there. Too unanimous of a pick by others. If he's so great, why is he still around at 14?


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You asked GD but I don't want Jernigan.

I don't know much about him. What makes you not want him?


His inability to care enough about personal conditioning to be on the field when the BCS Championship was on the line.

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I think the Bears HAVE to draft a safety with the first pick...

There are two options...

Ha Ha Clinton-Dix

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2014/profiles/ha%20ha-clinton-dix?id=2543470

Calvin Pryor

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2014/profiles/calvin-pryor?id=2543469

Pryor gives me a Major Wright feel. I'd take Clinton-Dix mainly due to his level of competition, and elite coaching in the SEC.

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I'd take Clinton-Dix mainly due to his level of competition, and elite coaching in the SEC.

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I don't think Pryor is a first round guy.

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I don't think Pryor is a first round guy.

I hope Emery doesn't take Pryor. Haha is a great talent tho.

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You asked GD but I don't want Jernigan.

I don't know much about him. What makes you not want him?


His inability to care enough about personal conditioning to be on the field when the BCS Championship was on the line.


That is a lasting image that troubles me.

I think Jernigan is good but I also think that the DT group is deep enough to pass in Rd. 1 if Donald is not there.

If Donald is not there, that means someone else has fallen. I would be very happy with either of the top two CB. The player I see who gets pushed down when Donald is drafted early is Anthony Barr out of UCLA. That, right there, is home run potential and I have absolutely no idea why NFL GMs don't see what I see with him. I think Barr is right there with Clowney as the best defensive player in this draft. He might not perfectly fit what the Bears do but he is a guy you create a position for. He is a little light and he had an embarrassing bench at the combine. He also has played defense for only two years. Before you compare him to Shea, take a look at the production and the level at which it was produced.

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JBills wrote:
I think the Bears HAVE to draft a safety with the first pick...

There are two options...

Ha Ha Clinton-Dix

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2014/profiles/ha%20ha-clinton-dix?id=2543470

Calvin Pryor

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2014/profiles/calvin-pryor?id=2543469

Pryor gives me a Major Wright feel. I'd take Clinton-Dix mainly due to his level of competition, and elite coaching in the SEC.


#14 seems high for both of them.

There are a lot of people talking about Deone Buchanon out of Washington State. He is a strong safety with free safety coverage skills. My guy at safety is still Jimmie Ward. He will not and should not be a first rounder.

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Hoge's latest Bears mock:

1. Justin Gilbert CB
2. DaQuan Jones DT
3. Jimmy Ward S
4. Jared Abbrederis WR
5. Christian Jones LB
6. Storm Johnson RB
6. Bryan Stork C

Assuming Donald is gone at #14, I would be pretty pleased if this were how things went down. I think Jones and Stork have a shot at being later round impact players. I would prefer going with a QB or more D in round 4, but other than that this would be a solid draft.

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outrageously unrealistic.


I believe it. All those guys were available in Hoge's draft.

Here's Dr. Ken's Mock Draft based on who I like and what I think the Bears needs are -

1. Blake Bortles QB
2. Jadeveon Clowney DE
3. Jake Matthews OT
4. Greg Robinson OT
5. Khalil Mack OLB
6. Sammy Watkins WR
6. Aaron Donald DT

There's a chance that Watkins doesn't make it to the sixth round but I think he's good value there.

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I'm getting nervous about Donald being there at 14

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I'm getting nervous about Donald being there at 14


I don't think he will be. Time to move on.

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
Kirkwood wrote:
outrageously unrealistic.


I believe it. All those guys were available in Hoge's draft.

Here's Dr. Ken's Mock Draft based on who I like and what I think the Bears needs are -

1. Blake Bortles QB
2. Jadeveon Clowney DE
3. Jake Matthews OT
4. Greg Robinson OT
5. Khalil Mack OLB
6. Sammy Watkins WR
6. Aaron Donald DT

There's a chance that Watkins doesn't make it to the sixth round but I think he's good value there.


A QB with the first pick?

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There's a chance he doesn't make it to the second round in the Dr. Ken Hoge Draft.

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Kirkwood wrote:
outrageously unrealistic.

:lol: Yeah I noticed a common theme in these one team mocks is to have the team draft a player that will already be gone by that time in the draft.

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
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I'm getting nervous about Donald being there at 14


I don't think he will be. Time to move on.


They better be burning up the lines for trade partners.

The guys I would want should Donald not be there are Dennard, Gilbert or Barr. If those three are gone, trade down for more picks and get the top safety available. I think Dix, Buchanon and Pryor are very close in ability.

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I'm not really sure why Hageman's name has pretty much disappeared from discussion at DT. He is equally if not more athletic than Jernigan despite being 20 pounds heavier and several inches taller. He has an Albert Haynesworth feel to him both as his floor and ceiling.

Lack of discussion usually means people are trying to divert attention from him.

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I have now gotten past the denial stage concerning Donald being there at 14.

I am now targeting Dennard.

My real hope is a trade down to take a top safety

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I have now gotten past the denial stage concerning Donald being there at 14.

I am now targeting Dennard.

My real hope is a trade down to take a top safety

I like these thoughts. Dennard is an impact player, but safety is the immediate need.

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I'm not really sure why Hageman's name has pretty much disappeared from discussion at DT. He is equally if not more athletic than Jernigan despite being 20 pounds heavier and several inches taller. He has an Albert Haynesworth feel to him both as his floor and ceiling.

Lack of discussion usually means people are trying to divert attention from him.


I saw a couple of guy from NFL.com who have Hageman dropping to the 2nd round.


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You don't want Hageman unless he falls to the 2nd. He should have had more impact in the college game given his athleticism.

He feels like a guy that Emery would overdraft, though. I've felt like this is an Emery first-round surprise pick for a few weeks.

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