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This guy gets it.

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Typically, if you ask athletes stupid questions, you'll tend to get stupid answers. I'm not sure if you were making a serious point, we'll just go with it.

Sale is a bona fide ace.

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somewhere JORR is wearing his emperor palpatine robes saying "YES..... GOOOOD.... let the hate flow through you" while sporting a monster baseball-erection, you know, like when they unveil the paul konerko statue in approximately 3-4 years.

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It sounds to me like Sale is just a guy who actually understands what his job is, regardless of the fact that Buster Olney may not. Guys can say and blog until they are blue in the face that "a pitcher's job is to prevent runs" and that won't make it any more true. A starting pitcher's job is to allow less runs than the other pitcher(s) he's facing on a given day. That's it.

As far as Sale being "a bonafide ace" is concerned, I would agree with that. Or at least say he is on the verge of being one. But "ace" isn't really a strictly defined term. It's in the eye of the beholder. Your W/L record does matter, but there's more to it than that. Mark Buerhle and Jon Lester have gaudy records and when all the careers are in the books they'll likely have better careers than Sale, but I wouldn't say either one is an ace. To me an ace has to have the kind of stuff where, when you get in a bases loaded jam with nobody out, you can reach back for the strikeout at a high percentage. In short, being an ace is a combination of having overpowering stuff and then turning that stuff into results.

P.S. Nice, sini!

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i'm glad that chris sale isn't a soulless machine forced to learn/propagate some sort of bullshit PC/communist message in the "participation trophy era"



i really really hope that his elbow doesn't ever blow up. baseball, like god, works in mysterious ways. maybe sale is so funky he won't end up as problematic as my lord and master of sports thoughts dan bernstein has told me that he would be. and any shots back at brian kenny are always welcomed by me.

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When the Tendon or Ligament goes, that will be it. Until then coop can save his breath on all his workouts, specialists, etc.

Hahn flat out called it. They took a risk and it paid off.

Of course when coop chimes in, "If he does our shoulder exercise' (coouugh Boolshit cough)

The guy has a unique whip motion, that cant be taught, corrected or improved. Maybe some of the mental aspects can be refined of when to throw pitchers and where, but the kid is a natural, even without the amazing Don Cooper.

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Metrics and advanced metrics are a secure bunker for lesser players in which to seek comfort. The greats understand and accept that it is on their shoulders to be the reason a game is won or lost and do not shy from shouldering the burden.

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That is some great analysis.

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Anyone taking a shot at Brian Kenny is alright by me...

I think he and Elmhurst Steve put their heads together, to come up with that.

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He also thinks Brandon Marshall would likely have a bad season if he broke his ankle.

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The point being that Don cooper is full of shit about his shoulder exercises.

I forgot, I need to explain it.

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More dynomite analysis! Please, tell us more mr fan!

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4 starts @ 113 pitches per start (with a max of 127) in 2014 ... 30 starts @ 108.3 pitches per start (with a max of 124) in 2013 ... 29 starts @ 103.2 pitches per start (with a max of 119) in 2012 ... with his rather unfortunate choice of pitching motion, his arm blowing out isn't something you ask if it'll happen, but instead more like 'when'.

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That could be said for every pitcher. Jarrod Parker had "perfect" mechanics and was babied throughout his development and he just underwent his second Tommy John surgery. There is no rhyme or reason for pitchers injuries. They just happen.

this

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Sure. Based on his mechanics its not a stretch to say its a good bet Sale is more likely to continue to have them though. Do you see him having an injury free career, specifically arm problems ?

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Dusty Baker agrees with this.

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No, I'm saying Chris Sale isn't more likely to have an arm injury than any other pitcher in baseball.

Of the 677 pitchers who appeared in a regular season MLB game in 2013, at least 135 of them (20%) have now had Tommy John surgery.

"Numbers guys" never seem to appreciate this. Until they do, it's really very, very difficult to take a large percentage of what they say seriously in my book.

It's almost as if they don't understand the difference between clutch players and the larger number of "practice all-stars" who turn into shrinking violets when the actual pressure is on.

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mebbe cuz nobody uses the windup anymore.

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He's ruined, done. Might as well just cut him.

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I appreciate the effort to define the parts that collect to result in a win. However, I have never been satisfied that the equations we currently employ balance out to win on the opposite side of the equation. There just seems like something elusive is being lost in the analysis. Sometimes it feels like the conclusion that everyone wants (win) is irrelevant to the satisfaction some feel with engaging in mental gymnastics.

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So in your estimation Sale was in no appreciable way more likely to have an arm injury than any given pitcher?

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It is because he is with the Sox. Keyser would be pointing out such things continually if he was on the north side. Just the way he rolls.

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Hahn flat out called it. They took a risk and it paid off.

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Right, and it's just a coincidence that the only people on here who are damn near cheering this news are Cub fans.

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Not discounting that at all. Just part of how things go around here. Shouldn't surprise anyone.

Keyser did the samething with Peavy. When the Cubs were rumored to get him in a trade he was constantly talking about his injury risk. Then when the Sox got him that suddenly changed and Keyser had a huge man crush on him.

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All very true.

But Keyser is 100% correct in stating that injuries sometimes just "happen" to pitchers.

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