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Rizzos Double last night, that Hawk thought should have been an Error was at one point a HR and was blown back on to the field. It was a sky high shot and I have never caught a major league pop up that came back into play from the wall, but I will imagine it's a tough play.

Consdering Hawk yells Stretch on OF flies that dont make the warning track, you can imagine that he didnt even realize the ball was blown back, but the smartest man in baseball should have, but from what I heard he said nothing.

Sitting with all White Sox personel last night, they all laughed everytime Hawk just kept bringing up 'They scored 5, and we gave them 4" "you gotta catch the ball". This resulted in such comments as "Hawk is the best" from ym suite mates.

I had to ask if they thought it really was good for any product to have the lead guy complaining, whining and bitching all the time?

I think Brooks now knows it, that Hawk is bad for his marketing. Hawk brings nothing to the table and if he was gone they wouldnt lose any fans or viewers, but "It's not his call" was the final word on that matter and the 12,000 pound pink elephant was put back in the corner of the room until he does or gets too sick to keep working.

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I'm going to need IMU to come on here and tell me if Rizzo's home run should be counted or not.

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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2014 8:03 am 
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
I'm going to need IMU to come on here and tell me if Rizzo's home run should be counted or not.


No, but if De Aza hit it , Hawk would have talked about it for the next 3 innings blaming the good lord for blowing the wind at the wrong time.

Brick, winding up IMU should be beneath you, it takes so little. It's like if I spent my time trying to get a certain Sox fan all worked up, we all know it takes nothing, you should work on improving JimmyPasta mental health.

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No, but if De Aza hit it , Hawk would have talked about it for the next 3 innings blaming the good lord for blowing the wind at the wrong time.
In all my years in baseball, Hawk is the best at being a homer.
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Brick, winding up IMU should be beneath you, it takes so little. It's like if I spent my time trying to get a certain Sox fan all worked up, we all know it takes nothing, you should work on improving JimmyPasta mental health.
jimmypasta is an honorary Sox fan. I think he hates the Cubs plan more than anyone.

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No, but if De Aza hit it , Hawk would have talked about it for the next 3 innings blaming the good lord for blowing the wind at the wrong time.
In all my years in baseball, Hawk is the best at being a homer.

Not even a question and to some he might even be entertaining, especially when they compare it to trotting out Mike Huff and I don't care what he says or does, even if he is wrong 50% of the time, it is just an observation. If you are happy listening to him more power to you, but he is a terrible guy to have if you are trying to market a product.

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Not even a question and to some he might even be entertaining, especially when they compare it to trotting out Mike Huff and I don't care what he says or does, even if he is wrong 50% of the time, it is just an observation. If you are happy listening to him more power to you, but he is a terrible guy to have if you are trying to market a product.
I don't think all the marketing in the world is going to make the White Sox more popular. Winning a few more World Series may. That's the Blackhawks model.

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Not even a question and to some he might even be entertaining, especially when they compare it to trotting out Mike Huff and I don't care what he says or does, even if he is wrong 50% of the time, it is just an observation. If you are happy listening to him more power to you, but he is a terrible guy to have if you are trying to market a product.
I don't think all the marketing in the world is going to make the White Sox more popular. Winning a few more World Series may. That's the Blackhawks model.



At this point in my life I am also convinced this would be the only way.

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These are only my observations, no real way I would ever be able to know what the White Sox people are thinking.

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Rizzos Double last night, that Hawk thought should have been an Error was at one point a HR and was blown back on to the field.


I was walking out in disgust during the eighth inning so I didn't see the play, but I find it hard to believe that the wind brought the ball back when it was blowing out pretty strong all night.

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bigfan wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
I'm going to need IMU to come on here and tell me if Rizzo's home run should be counted or not.


No, but if De Aza hit it , Hawk would have talked about it for the next 3 innings blaming the good lord for blowing the wind at the wrong time.

Brick, winding up IMU should be beneath you, it takes so little. It's like if I spent my time trying to get a certain Sox fan all worked up, we all know it takes nothing, you should work on improving JimmyPasta mental health.

bigfan advising people on what should be beneath them!

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These are only my observations, no real way I would ever be able to know what the White Sox people are thinking.
I'm sure they are thinking that would help but honestly the gap is so wide that it's going to be impossible to really fix.

I mean, with the Cubs literally wanting to be terrible the Sox still can't get any traction in getting more fans.

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Rizzos Double last night, that Hawk thought should have been an Error was at one point a HR and was blown back on to the field.


I was walking out in disgust during the eighth inning so I didn't see the play, but I find it hard to believe that the wind brought the ball back when it was blowing out pretty strong all night.


Then you can say the wind blew the ball to the wall. The point being the wind combined with being at the wall , is what made it a very tough catch and why the official scorer made it a double. Despite how Hawk saw it.

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anyone else see a lot of similarities between Hawk and Biggie? :lol:

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anyone else see a lot of similarities between Hawk and Biggie? :lol:

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Rizzos Double last night, that Hawk thought should have been an Error was at one point a HR and was blown back on to the field.


I was walking out in disgust during the eighth inning so I didn't see the play, but I find it hard to believe that the wind brought the ball back when it was blowing out pretty strong all night.


Then you can say the wind blew the ball to the wall. The point being the wind combined with being at the wall , is what made it a very tough catch and why the official scorer made it a double. Despite how Hawk saw it.

The wind was blowing in (and slightly towards LF) from RF heavily from like the 5th inning on.

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Rizzos Double last night, that Hawk thought should have been an Error was at one point a HR and was blown back on to the field.


I was walking out in disgust during the eighth inning so I didn't see the play, but I find it hard to believe that the wind brought the ball back when it was blowing out pretty strong all night.


They showed the flags about 10 seconds after .... they were very much pointed 'in' .... it might've otherwise only been a couple rows up but it almost certainly would've been a homer.

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Rizzos Double last night, that Hawk thought should have been an Error was at one point a HR and was blown back on to the field.


I was walking out in disgust during the eighth inning so I didn't see the play, but I find it hard to believe that the wind brought the ball back when it was blowing out pretty strong all night.


They showed the flags about 10 seconds after .... they were very much pointed 'in' .... it might've otherwise only been a couple rows up but it almost certainly would've been a homer.

Rizzo killed it. It would have been several rows deep at a minimum. As soon as it was hit, all the White Sox fans in my section hung their heads. As it was in flight...you could tell it had a chance of coming back to the field of play. I was surprised it actually did though.

There were multiple balls hit towards right or right-center that ended up in right-center or straight away center, respectively, through the second half of the game.

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Rizzo killed it.
Using the horrible site you used before, Rizzo's home run would only have been one in 16 MLB ballparks.

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There were multiple balls hit towards right or right-center that ended up in right-center or straight away center, respectively, through the second half of the game.


Yeah, the wind was blowing from right to left but it wasn't blowing in. Like I said, I didn't see the play. And I was up in a suite getting loaded so I guess I didn't notice it shifting. Anyway, I was more focused on Ventura's seemingly overriding desire to lose the game with Carroll. I had a glimmer of hope when Downs escaped the jam, but I knew it was over when I saw Cleto approach the mound.

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Im just glad Rizzo continues to have good at bats. Seems he's almost always working deep counts.


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There were multiple balls hit towards right or right-center that ended up in right-center or straight away center, respectively, through the second half of the game.


Yeah, the wind was blowing from right to left but it wasn't blowing in. Like I said, I didn't see the play. And I was up in a suite getting loaded so I guess I didn't notice it shifting. Anyway, I was more focused on Ventura's seemingly overriding desire to lose the game with Carroll. I had a glimmer of hope when Downs escaped the jam, but I knew it was over when I saw Cleto approach the mound.

I was in section 146. They were blowing straight at me. That is fairly "in" through not straight away.

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Im just glad Rizzo continues to have good at bats. Seems he's almost always working deep counts.
Rizzo is pretty good.

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Im just glad Rizzo continues to have good at bats. Seems he's almost always working deep counts.
Rizzo is pretty good.

Yeah, Im starting to think he may be better than I thought (last year)

need a couple more months of this and ill be fully on board


Abreu is pretty good too. His BAPIP is starting to normalize a bit. Stuff is falling in. He might have ridiculous numbers by the end of the year. Just depends on the initial adjustment.


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Jordan Danks would have made the catch.


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Don Tiny wrote:
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Rizzos Double last night, that Hawk thought should have been an Error was at one point a HR and was blown back on to the field.


I was walking out in disgust during the eighth inning so I didn't see the play, but I find it hard to believe that the wind brought the ball back when it was blowing out pretty strong all night.


They showed the flags about 10 seconds after .... they were very much pointed 'in' .... it might've otherwise only been a couple rows up but it almost certainly would've been a homer.


the wind never swirls at comiskular, always blows one way the whole game.

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rogers park bryan wrote:
Im just glad Rizzo continues to have good at bats. Seems he's almost always working deep counts.


Amazing how he even choked up on the bat last night, he must have learned that from Abreu, because thats the kind of thing that Abreu has brought to the Majors, that kind of level of preperation and focus that none of the other players have ever seen before.

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rogers park bryan wrote:
Im just glad Rizzo continues to have good at bats. Seems he's almost always working deep counts.


Amazing how he even choked up on the bat last night, he must have learned that from Abreu, because thats the kind of thing that Abreu has brought to the Majors, that kind of level of preperation and focus that none of the other players have ever seen before.

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Don Tiny wrote:
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rogers park bryan wrote:
Im just glad Rizzo continues to have good at bats. Seems he's almost always working deep counts.


Amazing how he even choked up on the bat last night, he must have learned that from Abreu, because thats the kind of thing that Abreu has brought to the Majors, that kind of level of preperation and focus that none of the other players have ever seen before.

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don that aint fishing, that is a direct hit to all the "he taught everyone baseball" line that continues to be repeated as if nobody ever knew how to pay the game. Viciedo and Ramirez are just lucky Abreu was born.

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whatever viciedo learned, he must have forgot because cuz he's hitting .140 in his last 7 games.

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