Just watched the 1st round, Ray Lewis, TURRIBLE!

-he told me Jesse Jackson is playing on the other side of Mike Evans about 5 times and that what the Bucs did in the draft he really really liked what they are doing with their draft picks. THEY DRAFTED 1 GUY!

-I don't think there was one draft that he didnt like. everyone did a great job. I liked Mel saying detroit needed secondary help, of course a TE just strengthens what they do, but a CB/SS is where he would have gone. Ray liked the TE...lol

-"My little brother wento HS with this kid(Kyle Fuller) so I know he will be good" RAY LEWIS....come on Ray, give me more! thats it

maybe he will get better, but he was out of his league

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“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”

Still a better listen than Gruden.

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George

They should just have Bill Simmons out there for this thing.

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Gruden wasnt terrible, but him and Mel on the same set was not a great thing. Gruden was like Hawk, just making thoughtless statements, Mel would always correct Gruden, which had Gruden fuming. Looked like he wanted to pound mel into the ground. he would grin and say nothing.

Uncomfortable silence on that set

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"That's what the internet is for. Slandering others anonymously." Banky
“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”

We watched different drafts then

Nearly every g-damned pick was him telling that they were gonna pick Manziel and how big his hands are and blah blah blah ... I'll take a player being dopey rather than a coach desperate to keep his name in the spotlight by being a fucking shill.

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George

I will agree with you he didnt know much, thats because he only talked to the QBs and if you watch the Gruden QB camp, Manziel was the most impressive on the board with check downs, 1st looks, etc etc.

But I think Grudens silence came from Kiper correcting him, so he then didnt say much except the Manziel stuff. Gruden was steamingly angry, turning red at times.

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"That's what the internet is for. Slandering others anonymously." Banky
“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”

Kiper deserved a medal for shutting Gruden down (not necessarily his aim, but it got the job done).

I think we can agree on this - if your network has the go-to NFL Draft coverage show bar none, and Chris Berman comes off as Walter Winchell compared to the collection of other dopes you're trotting out there, something is terribly, terribly wrong.

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George

I think Gruden is great. Lewis is awful. The ESPN draft team as a whole was lousy. I switched back to NFL Network despite Mayocks lisp. They should have had his Daughter on too!

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CSFMB 2014 Nascar Pick 'em Champion

We don’t have a trillion-dollar debt because we haven’t taxed enough; we have a trillion-dollar debt because we spend too much. — Ronald Reagan

I rest my case.

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George

This is from a review of last year's draft, but it cracks me up nonetheless:

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I object. Do you really think that Lewis is better at TV football analysis than Gruden? You should plead insanity.

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CSFMB 2014 Nascar Pick 'em Champion

We don’t have a trillion-dollar debt because we haven’t taxed enough; we have a trillion-dollar debt because we spend too much. — Ronald Reagan

As I've said several times, my only real objection to Ray's TV time was that he didn't turn Gruden into a Pez dispenser OJ-style.

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George