Wicked Strong was born to win this race. The entire focus of his life comes down to this Saturday. The Belmont is the very reason he exists.

Maybe California Chrome is just some kind of freak and he will run away from the field once again, but Wicked Strong is sitting on a giant race at a distance that suits him perfectly and he has been specifically pointed to the event over a five week period (and perhaps longer).

Secretariat lost four times in his career. Once in his very first race when a journeyman jock named Feliciano got him stuck behind horses at 5 furlongs, and again in the Wood Memorial which was completely unexpected and seemingly inexplicable. The other two times he lost were to two different horses trained by Allen Jerkens, Prove Out and The Onion. Jerkens had trained each of these ordinary animals specifically to take down the greatest horse that ever lived. It earned him the nickname "The Giant Killer". Jerkens' son, Jimmy is ready to enter the family business of killing giants this Saturday. Don't miss it.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

I loved his race in the Derby. All sorts of trouble but continued to run at the leaders.

He's such a stayer that I question his ability to really have a turn of foot to win. He will need to grind out Chrome to win.

Thanks JORR. I'm looking for someone to bet other than Chrome.

Does anyone have the current odds they can post? I'm on my work computer and can't find them.

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Bovada odds:

Horse Odds
California Chrome 11-10
Ride On Curlin 11-2
Commanding Curve 15-2
Tonalist 15-2
Wicked Strong 17-2
Medal Count 16-1
Social Inclusion 20-1
General A Rod 22-1
Samraat 22-1
Commissioner 33-1
Matterhorn 33-1
Matuszak 50-1

This Saturday is like a Breeders Cup day......nothing but graded stakes races all day. Will be outstanding. I'll post the Brisnet PP's later.

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1 Medal Count 20-1 Dale Romans Robby Albarado Spendthrift Farm LLC Stonestreet Thoroughbred Holdings LLC (KY) 8th Kentucky Derby


2 California Chrome 3-5 Art Sherman Victor Espinoza Steven Coburn & Perry Martin Perry Martin & Steve Coburn (CA) 1st Preakness


3 Matterhorn 30-1 Todd Pletcher Joe Bravo Eclipse Thoroughbred Partners Town & County Farm Corp. (KY) 4th Peter Pan


4 Commanding Curve 15-1 Dallas Stewart Shaun Bridgmohan West Point Thoroughbreds T. F. VanMeter (KY) 2d Kentucky Derby


5 Ride On Curlin 12-1 William Gowan John Velazquez Daniell J. Dougherty G. Watts Humphrey Jr. & Louise Ireland Humphrey Revocable Trust 2008 (KY) 2d Preakness


6 Matuszak 30-1 Bill Mott Mike Smith George Prussin Sha-Li Leasing Assoicates, Inc. (KY) 2d Frederico Tesio


7 Samraat 20-1 Rick Violette Jose Ortiz My Meadowview Farm My Meadowview LLC (NY) 5th Kentucky Derby


8 Commissioner 20-1 Todd Pletcher Javier Castellano WinStar Farm LLC WinStar Farm LLC (KY) 2d Peter Pan



9 Wicked Strong 6-1 Jimmy Jerkens Rajiv Maragh Centennial Farms William F. Lynn (KY) 4th Kentucky Derby


10 General a Rod 20-1 Mike Maker Rosie Napravnik Skychai Racing LLC & Starlight Racing Hare Forest Farm (KY) 4th Preakness


11 Tonalist 8-1 Christophe Clement Joel Rosario Robert S. Evans Woodslane Farm (KY) 1st Peter Pan

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Brisnet PP's for the Belmont.


http://www.brisnet.com/php/bw_pdf_viewe ... m3=1462164

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Gotta put a deuce on Chrome....I don't like Wicked Strong ...the Wood to me was a eh race.I'm going with Tonalist lightly race might steal it and Ride on Curlin exacta

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

Don't mentioned the same in the same breath..Big Red lost 4 in his career this nag has already lost 5.....and he hide in the Preakness so this "wise guy" horse better run the race of his life!

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

I like Tonalist, if Cali Chrome does not win.

He dusted Commissioner at 10 furlongs 3 weeks ago in the Peter Pan, I don't see 2 more furlongs being a problem for him.

Palace Malice won from post 12 last year, so I expect a similar set up.

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spmack- Do you have the pps for the Met Mile?

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Damn, Walt. I didn't know you were such a chalk player.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

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Thank you!

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

I'm gonna be buried with the ticket if he wins

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

Who is going to have the lead in here? Samraat? There isn't any real speed. Could Samraat grab a slow half and steal this thing? He was awfully game up close in the Derby.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

With the lack of speed, I can see Chrome going to the lead. He has to go out early from his post and I could see him leading the way.

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

9-11
11-9
9-11-2-5

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Good people drink good beer - Hunter S. Thompson

<º)))><

Waiting for the time when I can finally say
That this has all been wonderful, but now I'm on my way

4-5-9

Mine are similar. I'm hanging at the OTB today betting the early races too. I'm getting addicted to horse racing. I have a lot to learn, though. Does spmack do mentoring sessions?

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9,11 / 2,5,9,11

Edzo's Tri: 9/2/4,5,11

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"I honestly don't see a good bet on the board here."

My guy Gary Quill likes Medal Count and General A Rod. Interesting...

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$10 wp 11 1 Tri 1-5-11 50 cent Superbox Box 1-2-5-11

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

This Coburn crybaby should shut the fuck up. His fifteen minutes are over. He acts like he doesn't understand that these are three separate races. It's supposed to be hard to win the Triple Crown. He wants to make it so a horse wins one nearly every year. Wouldn't that be great? The irony is that if the Triple Crown was set up the way he suggests, no one would be talking about his horse.

People look at this the wrong way. They want to change the races to accommodate the breeding and training rather than forcing the breeders and trainers to accommodate the races. It's easy to breed and train cheap speed to fill out shitty race cards packed with 6 furlong sprints. Breed some classic horses and then put some bottom into them. Sure, winning a Triple Crown is tough. It's always been tough. Only eleven horses have ever done it. That's the point.

It's like suggesting that the answer to starting pitchers' inability to pitch complete games is to shorten the games to six innings. It's fucking ridiculous. Pussification of thoroughbred racing.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

It was funny how they spent 5 weeks building up how nice of a man he was and how everyone is rooting for him.

He has a little bit too much to drink(allegedly,maybe, probably) and that goes all out the window.

I guess he'll have to console himself with the millions he is getting for this horse.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

He's a total bitch, but no one is agreeing with him, right? Most I've heard talk acknowledged that that would totally bastardize the TC.

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Booze is no excuse for that. You can tell he's a hillbilly asshole. I don’t even think his partner likes him. He was a total dick to his wife too.

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The only thing I've heard is that maybe the races shouldn't be so close to each other.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Agreed.

It seems to be something he had thought about for a while too.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!