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LeBron probably feels like he is back in Cleveland. He doesn't have much in the tank after carrying Wade around. What if the Spurs didn't turn the Heat up in Game 1 after LeBron had taken over and given the Heat a big lead? The Heat would have come home and swept the Spurs. That's how big that "malfunction" was.

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LeBron probably feels like he is back in Cleveland. He doesn't have much in the tank after carrying Wade around. What if the Spurs didn't turn the Heat up in Game 1 after LeBron had taken over and given the Heat a big lead? The Heat would have come home and swept the Spurs. That's how big that "malfunction" was.


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LeBron probably feels like he is back in Cleveland. He doesn't have much in the tank after carrying Wade around. What if the Spurs didn't turn the Heat up in Game 1 after LeBron had taken over and given the Heat a big lead? The Heat would have come home and swept the Spurs. That's how big that "malfunction" was.

Is there something stopping the really good Chris Bosh from putting up 30 and 10?

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Not one...Not two...Not three...Yup!

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He is a perfect example of how it is a ridiculous notion that mental makeup doesn't play a large factor in sports. Of course, guys like Bernstein would rather just decide outcomes on paper. I will agree that Lebron may be the most physically gifted player ever, but he simply does not have the mentality to carry a team, as Rick pointed out earlier. There was a point in the third quarter last night where he scored ten points and was getting all this praise, and then he just STOPPED! Shortly later, Spoelstra yanked him. You think Jordan would even allow that to happen? He would tell Spoelstra to sit down and shut up, and he would then proceed to take every shot for the next five minutes. And don't give me this crap about making "the right basketball play." There are points in a game where you need somebody to dominate offensively. Passing has too many variables that can occur (steals, turnovers, missed shots, etc). Take the ball and put it in the damn whole, pansy!

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can you imagine the mind games Jordy would pull on Lebron? dude would be ready for the rubber room after that.

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can you imagine the mind games Jordy would pull on Lebron? dude would be ready for the rubber room after that.


Never thought about that but you are very right. That would be something.

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Lebron's brilliant basketball mind once again knew they lost so he saved him energy for the next...uh...season.


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Leaving games for cramps and diarrhea. This is your poster boy, your hero, your champion, the best ever?


It was the right play.

Yeah they're going to be hard pressed to answer how scoring 5 points in a half when you're the alleged best player like ever and your team is getting blown out is the "right" play.


Sarcasm, my friend. Making the right basketball play is a nod to LBJ making the "right play" by giving up the ball to a career journeyman for an open shot with 5 seconds left in the fourth, taking himself out of a crucial playoff game in Cleveland due to "elbow issues," and so on. Clearly LBJ has a tendency to make the right basketball play when challenged to win critical games by himself.

I must admit though that I am torn on him passing the ball to Donyell Marshall several years ago Cleveland. MJ passed to Paxson and Kerr in two different championship series to win deciding games. Why does LBJ do the same in 2007 and get blasted for it?

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Agree, thats part of it.

Fine line between being a spoiled rotten terrible loser and having a drive to win and beat everyone in everything, that nobody questions you about because it has propoelled you to eliteness.

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LeBron probably feels like he is back in Cleveland. He doesn't have much in the tank after carrying Wade around. What if the Spurs didn't turn the Heat up in Game 1 after LeBron had taken over and given the Heat a big lead? The Heat would have come home and swept the Spurs. That's how big that "malfunction" was.


You need to stop and think about what you're doing.


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MJ passed to Paxson and Kerr in two different championship series to win deciding games.


Not because he wanted to though, but because Phil kept harping on him during timeouts that they were wide open.

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MJ passed to Paxson and Kerr in two different championship series to win deciding games.


Not because he wanted to though, but because Phil kept harping on him during timeouts that they were wide open.


Sure, but Sam Smith in the Jordan Rules says MJ finally began to see this for himself during the LA finals, suggesting that maybe MJ leveraged the attention he warranted into open jump shots for lesser players. lbj did this and got excoriated. I think it's arbitrary. Listen I'll fully admit he's not the alpha dog we thought he'd be, but I don't think those sorts of plays where he creates open jumpers for specialist shooters are always fair game for criticism. I say this as someone indifferent to James.

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MJ passed to Paxson and Kerr in two different championship series to win deciding games.


Not because he wanted to though, but because Phil kept harping on him during timeouts that they were wide open.


Sure, but Sam Smith in the Jordan Rules says MJ finally began to see this for himself during the LA finals, suggesting that maybe MJ leveraged the attention he warranted into open jump shots for lesser players. lbj did this and got excoriated. I think it's arbitrary. Listen I'll fully admit he's not the alpha dog we thought he'd be, but I don't think those sorts of plays where he creates open jumpers for specialist shooters are always fair game for criticism. I say this as someone indifferent to James.


Sure, I agree you with. The Bulls weren't going to win all those titles if Jordan had hogged the shots like Gervin or Carmelo the way he did at the beginning of his career. But the difference is, Jordan knew when to kick it out to shooters, when to get other scorers involved, and when he had to carry the load himself. It seems like LeBron has no clue. And that makes it appear as if he's shrinking in the key moments.

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if the rest of the team was sucking, Jordan would score 50. that doesn't mean they would necessarily win, but they wouldn't have won with him scoring 25 with 10 assists anyway.

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Beyond all the obvious intangible categories that Jordan wins, we are forgetting that he is still actually better statistically also. Jordan has the highest PER ever, with Lebron number two, and Lebron hasn't even played his old man years that typically drag down the stat.

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LeBron probably feels like he is back in Cleveland. He doesn't have much in the tank after carrying Wade around. What if the Spurs didn't turn the Heat up in Game 1 after LeBron had taken over and given the Heat a big lead? The Heat would have come home and swept the Spurs. That's how big that "malfunction" was.


You need to stop and think about what you're doing.


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At some point, we have to wonder when LeBron will finally get teammates worthy of him.

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At some point, we have to wonder when LeBron will finally get teammates worthy of him.

Cant happen. Havent proven that God exists and Lemmy's already taken

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If we can blame Lebrons teammates for causing him to lose, then can't we also put a majority of the credit for the two titles on his teammates?

Lebron seemed to do just enough last night to be able to say "See, it wasn't me!" before they all checked out.

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If we can blame Lebrons teammates for causing him to lose, then can't we also put a majority of the credit for the two titles on his teammates?

Lebron seemed to do just enough last night to be able to say "See, it wasn't me!" before they all checked out.

Robin Williams is on a flight to Miami as we speak and is heading to LeBrons house to grab him by the shoulders, look him in the breastbone and tell him "its not your fault ".

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“You know, we went to four straight Finals in four years. We’re not discrediting what we were able to accomplish in these four years. We lost one, we won two, and we lost another one. I’ll take 50 percent in four years in championships any day. Obviously, you want to win all of them, but that’s just the nature of the game. You win some; you lose some. You’ve just got to come back the next year and be better as an individual, as a team, and go from there. But I know me and D. Wade and C.B., not proud of the way we played. All three of us, that’s the last thing we’re thinking about is what’s going on this summer.”

1. Michael didn't accept 50%.
2. The 4 Finals appearance accomplishment is so lame. The Eastern Conference is universally recognized as a wreck. Big whoop.


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Honestly as much as I love to rip LeBron he comes off well in that quote. Couldnt have said it much better


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Honestly as much as I love to rip LeBron he comes off well in that quote. Couldnt have said it much better


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Honestly as much as I love to rip LeBron he comes off well in that quote. Couldnt have said it much better


You're getting soft.

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