This would be something to celebrate because of what it would signify, imo


http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2014/06/17/report-cubs-samardzija-renew-contract-talks/


(CBS) After contract talks stalled last offseason, the Cubs and right-hander Jeff Samardzija have re-engaged in discussions on a multi-year extension, the Chicago Sun-Times reported.
The 29-year-old Samardzija is under club control through 2015, but it’s long been speculated that the Cubs will look to trade him by the July 31 deadline because the sides were about $25 million apart in long-term contract talks, CBSChicago.com’s Bruce Levine reported in April. Essentially, Samardzija wants to be paid like a staff ace and in previous contract talks, he didn’t believe the Cubs were ponying up such money. The Sun-Times also reported there were differences between the parties regarding the team’s “competitive timeline to management style to stability.”
Now, though, it appears team president Theo Epstein and general manager Jed Hoyer are making one last run at keeping Samardzija in Chicago.
From the Sun-Times:
Even as the Cubs continue early trade talks with some teams about Jason Hammel and Jeff Samardzija, they also have quietly reached out to Samardzija with a new offer on a contract that would keep him in Chicago as long as Starlin Castro and Anthony Rizzo, according to multiple sources.
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The longer Samardzija has pitched into what is fast becoming his best season, the more he’s looking like the front-line pitcher many expected him to be, and the more outcry that has risen from an already grumbling fan base waiting for this rebuilding process to take traction.
The deal being discussed is “believed to be” for five years and worth more than the $60 million-$65 million that the Cubs last had on the table, the Sun-Times reported, but it’s not known how high the team has gone.
Samardzija is in the midst of his best season, with a 2.77 ERA, 1.18 WHIP and 82 strikeouts in 91 innings.

Just media manipulation by the front office to drive up his value before a trade. They did the same thing last year with Garza. They have no intention of signing him.

just gives some cubs a bit more leverage when in trade talks. "Well, if you don't offer more than that we might just keep him!"

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$12-13M a year? I don't think so. That's Edwin money. Shark is worth a lot more.

Edit: ok it says they are offering more now.

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Yeah, he's worth an average of 16 per

I think I would be ok with 3 years and 48 million. I'd like to see him stay but they have to leave some
money in the cupboard to put some pieces around him. I would be hesitant to sign him for more than 4
years for sure.

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Of course they should be keeping him.

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Samardzija is the most overrated pitcher in baseball, so don't feel too bad about it. It's amazing how the Cubs have been able to create the narrative of a #1 pitcher for Samardzija (and Garza for that matter). Neither are #1 pitchers. Neither have ever shown to be #1 pitchers, but man do people eat that shit up. Do they look like good pitchers? Yes. Do they have good stuff? Yes. Do they consistently perform like a #1 pitcher? Hell no. Not even close.

Even the die-hard Sox fans (both of them) wouldn't agree with this.

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Please enlighten me as to why he is so great.

Career as a starter:

4.04 ERA, 1.295 WHIP

I don't know if that is 16M a year.

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No, that is #1 starter stuff. Move over Kershaw.

I didn't say he was. And that's not what you said.

I could enlighten you with a list of pitchers that many people think are more over-rated. But that's too easy. We all have those lists.

Hell, even GD said today that he isn't a #1 pitcher for any team that plans on winning. Doesn't sound like he's over-rated to me. If the Cubs over-rated him, he would be signed already. But he's not.

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In addition, Edwin Jackson's career numbers were VERY similar right before he signed with the Cubs. And eerily enough, Jeff Samardzija now is the exact age Jackson was when he signed the contract with the Cubs.

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He's a fine #2

Im not sure people think he's an ace. I think it's more that 2-3ish guys are more valuable than ever.

He's not getting true ace money (25 mil per)

I think we're realizing starting pitchers are way overpaid.

At most...they can throw 35 shutouts a season and net you 35 wins.

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Unless you're Travis Wood in which case there is no limit to your abilities

Whether he is a #1, or a #2, or a #3 doesn't really matter. It only matters if he will help you more over the next 3 years or if whatever guy or guys you get for him will more.

Trading him for prospects is basically pushing the date you want to be competitive another few years back.

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bigfan would sign him for 6 years $50million

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I would not try to resign him. He will never be worth that money. Trade him!

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!

Correct twice in a row, BC.

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problem is he thinks he's an ace and wants to be paid like 1. Id be ok at 3 /48 but some dumbass team will give him 5/95 or something ridiculous like that .

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

at the moment, I think he pitches a lot like James Shields, a guy who non championship teams use as their #1

I don't think he is as good as Shields has been or will be. That is what he is in the present

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Agreed but I think he'll continue being Shields-

Cubs should sign Shields. That guy can pitch. Samardzija isn't as good, never has been as good, and never will be as good as Shields in any statistical category except age.

Rejected 5 years $85M. Fucking idiot. And the Cubs are stupid to even offer that. Trade him yesterday.

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setting him up to be the bad guy

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