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I can't wait until Chapman faces that jackass the next time. I rarely root for someone to be hit on the knee, hand or wrist, but...

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I can't wait until Chapman faces that jackass the next time. I rarely root for someone to be hit on the knee, hand or wrist, but...

They already hit him yesterday

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 Post subject: Re: Rizzo
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konerko wasn't all that.


Konerko was a good player who grew up in AZ and swung a bat year round and developed a great swing.

This doesnt mean anyone can become good by swinging all year, but the number of guys I knew with batting cages as a kid also turned out to be some of the best hitters I knew and they did maz out their talents.

Whether it was a college ride, drafted in the minors or made MLB, you develop a much better swing than the kid who plays 3 times a week and practices only during the season.

Konerko, I think everyone knows lacks speed, maybe the slowest player in MLB, but the guy will be able to swing a bat until he is 50.

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 Post subject: Re: Rizzo
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I can't wait until Chapman faces that jackass the next time. I rarely root for someone to be hit on the knee, hand or wrist, but...

They already hit him yesterday


But it wasn't @ 102mph

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 Post subject: Re: Rizzo
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 Post subject: Re: Rizzo
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he is from Rhode Island

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 Post subject: Re: Rizzo
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http://www.sportingcharts.com/mlb/stats/player-game-winning-rbis/2014/


I could point out a handful of flaws in that statistic but you probably already know that is one that you throw away.

I'm not going to ever say that someone with 9 GW RBI is better than someone with 7 GW RBI, but one would notice there are no names that seem misplaced on that list. That list is made of pretty much "stars" and Rizzo and Abreu both belong on it, and are there, as you would guess. As are all other "run producers."

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GWRBI :lol: I hadn't heard that since 1987.

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 Post subject: Re: Rizzo
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immessedup17 wrote:
http://www.sportingcharts.com/mlb/stats/player-game-winning-rbis/2014/


I could point out a handful of flaws in that statistic but you probably already know that is one that you throw away.

I'm not going to ever say that someone with 9 GW RBI is better than someone with 7 GW RBI, but one would notice there are no names that seem misplaced on that list. That list is made of pretty much "stars" and Rizzo and Abreu both belong on it, and are there, as you would guess. As are all other "run producers."

Does Castro know you have cheated on him with your avatar?

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 Post subject: Re: Rizzo
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http://www.sportingcharts.com/mlb/stats/player-game-winning-rbis/2014/


I could point out a handful of flaws in that statistic but you probably already know that is one that you throw away.

I'm not going to ever say that someone with 9 GW RBI is better than someone with 7 GW RBI, but one would notice there are no names that seem misplaced on that list. That list is made of pretty much "stars" and Rizzo and Abreu both belong on it, and are there, as you would guess. As are all other "run producers."
Do you stand by the idea that Abreu has a problem because he doesn't hit his home runs far enough?

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 Post subject: Re: Rizzo
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There is currently no player in the league who is "far superior" to Abreu!


i will take 4 1/2 tool Mike Trout 310/401/602 21 HR 63 R 68 RBI 10 SB 5.3 WAR
over Abreu 287/337/629 28 HR 48 R 1 SB 3.0 WAR

and I would consider Tulo 350/441/516 20 HR 70 R 49 RBI 1 SB 5.2 WAR at a premium position.

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 Post subject: Re: Rizzo
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Look at Tulo's road and home splits, then get back to us.

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 Post subject: Re: Rizzo
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
There is currently no player in the league who is "far superior" to Abreu!


i will take 4 1/2 tool Mike Trout 310/401/602 21 HR 63 R 68 RBI 10 SB 5.3 WAR
over Abreu 287/337/629 28 HR 48 R 1 SB 3.0 WAR

and I would consider Tulo 350/441/516 20 HR 70 R 49 RBI 1 SB 5.2 WAR at a premium position.
I didn't set the "far superior" bar here.

"Far Superior" was defined as .096+ ops.

In fact, Trout is barely "far superior" to Rizzo at this point!

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 Post subject: Re: Rizzo
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Look at Tulo's road and home splits, then get back to us.


Frank I said I would TAKE TROUT....

I said I would consider Tulo mostly based on position...


You have your choice Abreu or Trout and you would take?????

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 Post subject: Re: Rizzo
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
There is currently no player in the league who is "far superior" to Abreu!


i will take 4 1/2 tool Mike Trout 310/401/602 21 HR 63 R 68 RBI 10 SB 5.3 WAR
over Abreu 287/337/629 28 HR 48 R 1 SB 3.0 WAR

and I would consider Tulo 350/441/516 20 HR 70 R 49 RBI 1 SB 5.2 WAR at a premium position.
I didn't set the "far superior" bar here.

"Far Superior" was defined as .096+ ops.

In fact, Trout is barely "far superior" to Rizzo at this point!


BRICK you know I know that anyone who arbitrarily only looks at any one stat for any player is missing the whole picture .. so who do you want Trout or Jose overall.

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BRICK you know I know that anyone who arbitrarily only looks at any one stat for any player is missing the whole picture .. so who do you want Trout or Jose overall.
I'm just following through on a promise from earlier.

If you have a better scale that takes into account more statistics we can analyze the differences between Trout, Abreu, and Rizzo.

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 Post subject: Re: Rizzo
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immessedup17 wrote:
http://www.sportingcharts.com/mlb/stats/player-game-winning-rbis/2014/


I could point out a handful of flaws in that statistic but you probably already know that is one that you throw away.

I'm not going to ever say that someone with 9 GW RBI is better than someone with 7 GW RBI, but one would notice there are no names that seem misplaced on that list. That list is made of pretty much "stars" and Rizzo and Abreu both belong on it, and are there, as you would guess. As are all other "run producers."

Does Castro know you have cheated on him with your avatar?

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 Post subject: Re: Rizzo
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Do you stand by the idea that Abreu has a problem because he doesn't hit his home runs far enough?

The only problem Abreu has is that he signed a six year contract on a team with no direction. I hope he enjoys .500 ball.

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Do you stand by the idea that Abreu has a problem because he doesn't hit his home runs far enough?

The only problem Abreu has is that he signed a six year contract on a team with no direction. I hope he enjoys .500 ball.
Please don't Kirkwood us. You are better than that.

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 Post subject: Re: Rizzo
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I enjoy all young men from the Caribbean.


I'd love to use this as a new sig but drinky has been there for so long I just cant get rid of it...

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 Post subject: Re: Rizzo
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BRICK you know I know that anyone who arbitrarily only looks at any one stat for any player is missing the whole picture .. so who do you want Trout or Jose overall.
I'm just following through on a promise from earlier.

If you have a better scale that takes into account more statistics we can analyze the differences between Trout, Abreu, and Rizzo.


Even though it has flaws especially on the defensive side WAR seems to be about the best all stat to comp guys with...but it is also the eye test.... Trout really is a 5 tool guy and I don;t think I see 5 tools in either Jose or Rizzo they both play a position where you can not judge their arm and neither is a burned on the base path. Jose has 80 plus plus raw power and it is the best single tool of all three guys... but Trout has a better hit tool, better glove and blows them both away on speed

Again if have the first pick in build your team from scratch I take the 22 year old CF with nearly 3 elite years in the book.

What do you see?

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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Do you stand by the idea that Abreu has a problem because he doesn't hit his home runs far enough?

The only problem Abreu has is that he signed a six year contract on a team with no direction. I hope he enjoys .500 ball.
Please don't Kirkwood us. You are better than that.

I haven't paid a lot of attention to some of the back and forth trolling, but I don't think Kirkwood has been that bad, as he? He is an intelligent Cubs fan that is probably wrapped up in the trolling at the moment.

Let us not throw him in with the likes of whistler, 312player, etc.

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[I don;t think I see 5 tools in either Jose or Rizzo ?


you are just begging me to post something I don't want to post

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THE INQUISITOR wrote:
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BRICK you know I know that anyone who arbitrarily only looks at any one stat for any player is missing the whole picture .. so who do you want Trout or Jose overall.
I'm just following through on a promise from earlier.

If you have a better scale that takes into account more statistics we can analyze the differences between Trout, Abreu, and Rizzo.


Even though it has flaws especially on the defensive side WAR seems to be about the best all stat to comp guys with...but it is also the eye test.... Trout really is a 5 tool guy and I don;t think I see 5 tools in either Jose or Rizzo they both play a position where you can not judge their arm and neither is a burned on the base path. Jose has 80 plus plus raw power and it is the best single tool of all three guys... but Trout has a better hit tool, better glove and blows them both away on speed

Again if have the first pick in build your team from scratch I take the 22 year old CF with nearly 3 elite years in the book.

What do you see?
Obviously, Trout is better.

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At the all star break:

Abreu .972
Rizzo .879

.093 difference. If he isn't far superior then he is really, really, really close to far superior! Steve Stone may have been right after all!

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fringe all star slightly better than a post concussed morneau

He can line up right next to the guys who made it because every team needed at least one representative

Every post you make about Rizzo without acknowledging how wrong you've been just digs a deeper hole.


Cashner off the DL yet?


Also, do you think the 35 homeruns Rizzo is on pace for is a quiet 35?


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Rizzo has two nice half seasons and two bad half seasons. The jury is certainly out on his future

No, not really. Maybe for you, though.

I think most readily accept he is going to be a pretty good player.

no, dolphin doesnt even think that. he knows Rizzo is a good player at the very least. He just cant admit it.


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Do you stand by the idea that Abreu has a problem because he doesn't hit his home runs far enough?

The only problem Abreu has is that he signed a six year contract on a team with no direction. I hope he enjoys .500 ball.
Please don't Kirkwood us. You are better than that.

You just posted that Hahn's vision sucks in the other thread, didnt you?


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