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 Post subject: Re: This is the year
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Is this like 2012 all-in? How long is the window open?


I was looking good until Cutler and Forte got injured.

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 Post subject: Re: This is the year
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Is this like 2012 all-in? How long is the window open?


3 or 4 more years. Im guessing a SB win this year. A tough loss to the 49ers in the NFC championship next season and then another SB win the following year. This isnt even a bandwagon, its a fucking bandtank.


You're exactly right my friend.

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Kirkwood wrote:
Is this like 2012 all-in? How long is the window open?


3 or 4 more years. Im guessing a SB win this year. A tough loss to the 49ers in the NFC championship next season and then another SB win the following year. This isnt even a bandwagon, its a fucking bandtank.

I think the improvements in defense are being vastly overrated.

The defensive line depth is way way way overstated. Very few rookie defensive linemen excel in their first year and the few that do are elite talents or one-trick ponies.

In essence, a line of Allen, Houston, Ratliff, Paea and Young is what the Bears will sport. The run defense will be greatly improved but I do not see the sacks there.

Similar to d-line, the safety play will be better simply because it'd be really hard to be worse than last year.

Fuller needs to kick ass right away as Jennings/Tillman/Hayden are all over 30+.

The linebacker corp will be interesting. The d-line should help in the run game but can Briggs and Williams get to where they need to go if the back gets to the 2nd level? I foresee TE absolutely killing the Bears this year.

I think the 2-3 years prediction is more likely once Emery brings in more youngbloods. The offense is for sure set.


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Well....that's like your opinion man.

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Well....that's like your opinion man.

I know. I just look at the recent Super Bowl winners and they've all been able to sack the QB and shut down the passing game. Other than QB that's the most important characteristic a SB Champion has.


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The tank is already leaking oil. Kyle Long is on the pup list with Ebola or something .

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Well....that's like your opinion man.

I know. I just look at the recent Super Bowl winners and they've all been able to sack the QB and shut down the passing game. Other than QB that's the most important characteristic a SB Champion has.

Why don't you think the Bears can rush the passer? Did Jared Allen lose that ability?

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Hank Scorpio wrote:
Well....that's like your opinion man.

I know. I just look at the recent Super Bowl winners and they've all been able to sack the QB and shut down the passing game. Other than QB that's the most important characteristic a SB Champion has.

Why don't you think the Bears can rush the passer? Did Jared Allen lose that ability?

Yes. I think Ware, Peppers and Allen all will struggle as 30+ year-olds. Ware and Peppers at least have Miller and Matthews drawing attention to put them in advatageous match-ups to hide their rapid declines. Young and Houston are excellent run defenders but I do not think they're pass rushers. I see Houston as a Phillips Daniels type.


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I'm OK with that. Just need pressure on the QB, you dont need to always get there.

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Is everyone going to stay healthy again?


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 Post subject: Re: This is the year
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Peoria Matt wrote:
Is everyone going to stay healthy again?


They weren't healthy last year. They have more depth to overcome that.

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Is everyone going to stay healthy again?


They weren't healthy last year. They have more depth to overcome that.

Coincidentally the Rusty Jones' 1st year of retirement.


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I know it happens every year but it's pretty unbelievable how "Everything got better" is pretty much the standard opinion.

So, is anything below 13-3 a regular season disappointment?

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
I know it happens every year but it's pretty unbelievable how much "Everything got better" is pretty much the standard opinion.

So, is anything below 13-3 a regular season disappointment?


I fully expect them to win anywhere from 12 to 16 games in the regular season.

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Lose Super Bowl


Against which team? The only teams in football that scare me are the Seahawks and 49ers and since all the Seahawks just got paid, I'm hoping that they all fall on their asses since they dont need all the fire and passion Pete Carroll bullshit.

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Hank Scorpio wrote:
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Against which team? The only teams in football that scare me are the Seahawks and 49ers and since all the Seahawks just got paid, I'm hoping that they all fall on their asses since they dont need all the fire and passion Pete Carroll bullshit.

Bengals.


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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
I know it happens every year but it's pretty unbelievable how "Everything got better" is pretty much the standard opinion.

So, is anything below 13-3 a regular season disappointment?


No. I think anything short of a long playoff run will be. What do you think?

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
I know it happens every year but it's pretty unbelievable how "Everything got better" is pretty much the standard opinion.

So, is anything below 13-3 a regular season disappointment?


No. I think anything short of a long playoff run will be. What do you think?
I think they'll be lucky to sneak into the playoffs with 9 wins. I think 6 wins are more likely than 11.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Nas wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
I know it happens every year but it's pretty unbelievable how "Everything got better" is pretty much the standard opinion.

So, is anything below 13-3 a regular season disappointment?


No. I think anything short of a long playoff run will be. What do you think?
I think they'll be lucky to sneak into the playoffs with 9 wins. I think 6 wins are more likely than 11.


Negativity. They could win 6 games with Fales starting 16 games for them.

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Negativity. They could win 6 games with Fales starting 16 games for them.
I factored in the non-noticeable difference among the qb position in my thoughts.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Nas wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
I know it happens every year but it's pretty unbelievable how "Everything got better" is pretty much the standard opinion.

So, is anything below 13-3 a regular season disappointment?


No. I think anything short of a long playoff run will be. What do you think?
I think they'll be lucky to sneak into the playoffs with 9 wins. I think 6 wins are more likely than 11.


Something in the neighborhood of 7-9 or 9-7 seems about right.

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Something in the neighborhood of 7-9 or 9-7 seems about right.
It feels stupid to say because it is like "I think they'll be average! I'm really smart and know a lot about football!" but I just don't see the remarkable improvements that others do. We are relying on Jared Allen to come in and not continue his decline.

The Bears just seem stuck in a perpetual cycle where they won't be terrible and they won't be great. That isn't a good place when so many of your important players are now 30+.

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Actually, looking at it, I think they'll go into week 17 at 9-6 with a win and get in scenario


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The question is, if this isn't the year, what can the Bears possibly do to generate any hope for next year? If Cutler doesn't break a 90 QB rating for this year and the team misses the playoffs yet again, what possible excuse will the Bears come up with? Emery and/or Trestman would have to be fired, right?

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I see 2 probable losses on that. @ SF and @ GB. You could talk me into @NE, @DET or @ATL. Even in my worse case scenario, that leaves 11 wins.

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