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PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 3:40 pm 
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These "penalties" are going to make for some real ticky tack calls, and some looooooong games. Hand to the face, and illegal contact? No way those should have been flags...for either team.



I think they've been doing this to the extreme the past couple years. They call the hell out of the "points of emphasis" throughout the preseason and a little maybe that first real week just to get everyone's head thinking that these are going to be called all the time and then everything goes back to normal.

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Peanut moves like he's being held together with chewing gum and popsicle sticks. He's going to be hurt early and often.


I thought he hurt his groin last night.

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Peanut moves like he's being held together with chewing gum and popsicle sticks. He's going to be hurt early and often.


I thought the same thing last night. It made me sad because he has been one of my faves for a long time.


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I am quickly losing faith in this team. Special teams are a joke. We'll see what happens with the defense, but the line is going to have to excel because it must bear the burden of compensating for major deficiencies at linebacker and safety. This could be a very long season.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 10:06 am 
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Looks primed for a regression to the 10-15 range. There's zero depth anywhere.

Defense:
Run defense looked good but the secondary is going to get torched.

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There' a tendency to over analyze these games and draw conclusions (usually for the worse) about the team. No teams are showing much, and obviously most of these games are being played by backups, fringe players, and non-roster invitee's. I laugh when I listen Boers/Bernstein claim he's not making any judgments based on pre-season, but has gone from having them 12-4 to now being a .500 type team. The only thing that has changed is pre-season games. Stop over-reacting to them. The Bears may not win their division or go the playoffs, but you can draw these conclusions prior to training camp.

The offense will be very good as long as they stay healthy, but what offense in the league will be better with injuries (in most cases unless a backup becomes a star)? If there are injuries, the lack of depth will be more pronounced on the Bears because it's nearly impossible to replace the type of talent they have (Jeffery, Marshall, Forte, Cutler). This is true of most teams in the league at the QB spot - losing one of these guys probably ends your season.

Defensively, if there's a pass rush, the defense may not be great, but it will at least hold it's own. There are obvious concerns at LB, and S, but the defensive line looks to be a strength on the team.



Actually, I'm looking specifically to the basic aspects of football play. The "vanilla" of the offense and defense allows you to look at individual players and see their strengths and/or weaknesses.

There's no doubt about the potential of the offense, pass to set up the run and when Cutler spreads the ball around they are among the league's best. Cutler's mechanics are always worth watching to see when he makes back foot throws.

On defense I've been focusing more on the scheme and I remain disappointed. Linebackers continue to line up with poor angles (too close together and too close to the line) and whenever the guard slips through or tight end blocks down there becomes a gap. The safeties set up too far back which allows for the passes to happen in front of them, also because there is the tendency to play single-high the deep corners are open. Also, setting so deep means conceding an extra yard or two on run plays and forces them to have to break down to tackle from further out. When a running back can get tot he second level (linebackers getting blocked) they get the space to make a juke move to gain and extra few yards on the safety. I don't like the scheme of having corners cover receivers 30+ yards downfield as this is a Tillman weakness.

Special teams punting has me focusing on directional kicking and punt types. The kickoff return is also a focus as with this defense there will be more of them.

The third game will be the first game with some sense of gameplan on both sides of the ball for the first half. Seattle will be a good test on both sides of the ball. The fourth game is where the rest of the roster is determined, the "annual" Browns exhibition.

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Why do you guys try to "break down" the action in these games. All of the offensive is using a small playbook with lame plays. The blocking schemes are non-existent. The defense plays basic man-to-man mostly. The blitz packages called are vanilla. The special teams are just trying not to get hurt.

The only thing anyone should take from preseason is individual performance on performing the basic parts of football. For instance, Shea has been awful and does not look capable of playing linebacker. But you cannot pass judgement on the defense, offense, or special teams as a whole.

Once the Bears get thrashed in week 1, THEN you can start killing them.




I watch mainly for the personel decisions and to see how good the 'technique' of the players is (tackling for example) -you can get a sample size of things like that even during pre-season. I agree that overall breakdown of meaningless games is, well, meaningless.

I don't like that our #1 pick was playing on special teams in a meaningless game. You don't need to see what he looks like on ST, he was not drafted to ever play on that part of the team.

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My brother keeps asking me why I'm not watching these games. I told him I'm holding off my depression for when the regular season starts.

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I sure hope they're still evaluating Shea and get his dumb narrow ass out there for a half.
Dude ain't ready for prime time and he needs much more experience.

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Smart move starting fales. He looks light years better than cutler

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Smart move starting fales. He looks light years better than cutler

You liked the long pass that was 5 yards too short where they get a luck ass interference call for their biggest gain too?

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Good news. The second team defense looks as bad as the first team.

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You guys are actually watching this ?

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Good thing Shea is so ready for the season they're not playing him tonight.
How fucking stupid can they be?
Unless they're cutting him.
Are they cutting him?
Cause that'd be nice.

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You guys are actually watching this ?

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At least fales doesn't throw to the other team. Bears hof right dare

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Fales is awesome!

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Our o line sucks harder than redskingreg on a gay binge

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Hurst just made the stupidest play I've seen all preseason.
Wanna bet he's cut tomorrow?

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Yes. How about turning around and looking for the ball?

And Santonio is going to start Week 1. Pretty nice kickoff return.

Fales really stares down where he's going to throw.


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Fales is 1000x better than cutler

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IkeSouth wrote:
Fales is 1000x better than cutler

Yeah no.

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Darkside wrote:
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Fales is 1000x better than cutler

Yeah no.


Payne is better than York.

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Rex Grossman is still a stud.

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Peanut just lied and he sounded like he knew that he was lying.

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IkeSouth wrote:
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Fales is 1000x better than cutler

Yeah no.


Payne is better than York.

Truth. York is garbage.

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