While I agree Hanley has a just as bad, if not worse, "can't talk" problem, Hanley still has that columnist status that seems to carry a lot of weight at The Score.

The cover band status carries much more weight.

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Most Score Employees and most employees in general have ZERO leverage when looking for a new deal or new job. It's a terrible thing. Most employers use it to a serious advantage.

My first job I was put in the situation of losing my salary and going 100% commission. It put my in a bad situation, as the only reason it was done, was because I had a salary and did very well on my commissions, they figured they could cut my salary and I still wouldnt leave.

I took the deal, then went looking for another job, got another offer, then went back to HR asked for my salary back, they said no. I gave my immediate notice. I was asked for 2 weeks notice, because they said it was standard and I just stated that nothing is standard, especially giving someone the choice of A) New Structure and B) No Job.

Everytime you read something about looking for a raise or promotion, they have all these points of advice and never does it say...Go look for another job FIRST. See what you find, maybe even get an offer.

You dont need to burn a bridge this way, you can say it was just business just as the company did to you. Smile while you give them the finger under your shirt!

Large companies want you to be comfortable, they want you to stay on their terms and they count on you just taking it.

Afterall, THE WANT TO KEEP THEIR ANTITRUST STATUS!!!!!!!!!

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TRIBUTE BAND!!!!!!

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"That's what the internet is for. Slandering others anonymously." Banky
“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”

That is such a joke. They have music stands up there for crying out loud. When you "become" someone, the music stands have to go.

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Id think Drinky would be a good salesman or bartender

he was

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“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”

Being the Executive Producer of arguably the most important show on the station is not a bad gig. As far as being an on-air personality, the worst thing would be for him to drastically change his style and adopt a phony personality and try to be someone else on-air. Most listeners are savvy enough to detect phony-sounding broadcasters. As long as he sounds genuine, I think he will be fine. My only criticism of his work as an on-air host is that sometimes he is too "thin-skinned" with callers.

I don't know if I've ever said this, but I agree 100% with bigfan. My pet peeve is when people talk about loyalty to a company. I may have loyalty to people IN a company but not to the company itself. We are all free agents. The only way to produce leverage is to be very good at what you do and to shop around. Few people are willing to do it, but I think the younger generations are more open to the idea. Simply asking for a raise or promotion with no options is futile.

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Company loyalty used to be a respectable two-way street. Not so in a world of "you should just be lucky you even HAVE a job!"

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Haaaa... you're spot on CH.

Even worse is when a person says "I'm just lucky to have a job!" Have a little self-respect. If that's true, then go get better at what you do. Or at least TRY to think of ways in which a company is lucky to have you as opposed to the other way around.

And I also agree with your first point, CH, but that mindset was likely more prevalent when there were a lot more smaller companies and people were on a first name basis with the owner, and he gave them all holiday bonuses and helped them out with kids and time off and all that shit. That deserves loyalty. Today's faceless corporations do not. I work for one, but I don't for one second have any kind of "loyalty" to them beyond being very good at what I do and receiving compensation for it. I've told anyone who has ever reported to me that they should feel the same way.

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Hello Mrs. Abattacola, welcome to the board.

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Amen to that. You know that the only reason a company has you on the books is because they deem it profitable to do so. When it is not, they will restructure the terms or just kick you to the side. There is no loyalty to John Boardposter. Therefore, you do not need to give them any loyalty. You find a job yourself and then tell them you are leaving because the terms that they have operated under are no longer in your best interest. You take the power by owning the situation yourself. I've never seen a bridge burnt under such a scenario (other than where the manager was not all there to begin with in the first place.) Everyone knows that you need to take care of your personal situation and will respect almost any reason you provide for doing so, especially if it involves more money.

If Drinky really wanted a full time on-air gig, I am sure he could find one somewhere, but it probably would be in a smaller market, and I would also guess at less money than he is making now. It would also be a completely fresh start, so he'd have to kiss away the past 10-15 years of friendships he's made at the Score, and if he didn't succeed as an on-air host in the first six months to a year, he would probably just be fired without any sort of producer net to fall back on like he has at the Score. Drinky also has a wife and kid(s?) now so I'm sure he is considering job stability more than he would have ten years ago. It may be one of those things where he'd like to be on the air but the current situation of producing with being on the air 15 days out of the year is enough to scratch that itch while keeping a stable job to support his family. Only Drinky can answer these questions, and there's no real reason for him to want to air it out on a message board that I can see.

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You can't be serious. "WILLINGLY"? Really? I hear a LOT of bitching from drinky about doing various shifts, how it's impacted his ability to do Hit and Run (he has to play off his absences there as a joke that he doesn't like Rozner), when he does fill in on the midday show he will always leave transition early because there is an earlier train he'd like to catch, the list goes on.

I just don't know how you can call what he does into a mic "solid" at this point. Most of it is mock radio - mock the topic, mock the listener, mock the caller, mock the co-host, mock the job, mock everything. He's too cool for everything. And, of course, taking a page out of Bernstein's book he will occasionally open up and let everyone in on a real meatball type behavior he partakes in - because, you know, that's so crazy that a guy who mocks everything would actually do something that he mocks!!!!! Woah, crazy.

I believe beardown is a very scary being, I really do - but the one thing I've seen that idiot post that is true is the boggling amount of "ummms" that this 40-something year-old man utters into a mic, when given the chance. It's crazy. This guy was literally doing testimonials for a broadcasting school, this guy is apparently trying to make a life in front of the mic, and he cannot nail down one of the absolute basics of speaking into a mic. From what I've heard, there are, um, many ways to, ahhh, to buy your brain some time to, ahhh, to catch up with your, ummm, mouth - but much like his childlike need to start packing up his backpack way before anyone else (to be the first one out the door) during his on-air shifts, it's painfully clear that the guy doesn't want to do any work to remedy a very basic radio shortcoming.

TL;DR

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I already did this. Worst. Thread. Ever.

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For where? If he had a chance, he may have missed it by not jumping to the new station. I don't think he's much of a bump (if any) from the guys who already left the Score.

It's clear he doesn't have a future as a regular host on the Score, but with all the defections he's now 2nd or 3rd off the bench.

That's the point people always miss. Easy to say "Jump". Jump where? Don't you think he would have by now if somebody else in town wanted him? Nobody wants him is the point.

I think other stations say "Christ, if the Score doesn't want him after knowing him for 13 years, why the hell would we?" That and it's clear to all that drinky is stupid. That's actually the main reason.

Hell, like you said, he's only back on the air at the Score cuz Finfer, Connor and Goff jumped. You didn't hear much from him when these guys were above him.

The times they are a changing. Again.

I'm guessing leash that if you went to the HR directors of ten companies and asked if they were having trouble finding qualified candidates, the answer would be a resounding yes. Finding qualified candidates that have a work ethic is even tougher.

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I don't disagree. Just ask Mitch Rosen.

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I think that was praise.

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God damn you people. Mully is the problem. Mully. Mully is the worst. I'm not saying Hanley is good or anything, mind you, but Mully is the problem. He's awful in literally every way.

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