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Funny how all the people saying they got hit as kids decide not to do the same to their own children.


I will hit my kids if I feel it's needed.


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Speaking of CPS, we used to get hit with a ruler (with tape wrapped around it) when I went to Caldwell.


I remember this too. I was a terrible kid and was hit by all my teachers until 3rd grade. I pulled off a substitute's wig in 3rd grade and she whooped me in the bathroom and tried to rip my hair out of my head.


You were hit multiple times when you were a kid. Were you not hit hard enough to understand the message that the person hitting you was trying to convey, or did being hit really not do much to change your behavior?

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Well, this is fucked up.

I'll start by saying this: I don't condone spanking children. Despite my well-known fondness for children, it may surprise you to know that I'm not a child psychologist or otherwise an expert on rearing children. But from what I've read, it seems like the downsides to spanking children do not justify any possible upsides.

That said....

It's tough where you draw the line between spanking and abuse. I was spanked as a child. My mother was a teacher, and she had a paddle especially designed for spanking from one of the schools she had taught at. When our behavior was especially egregious, my sister and I would get spankings; the bonus rule was if mom had to issue a spanking, dad would double it up when he got home. This was always done somewhat after the incident, explained carefully, and not done in anger. I resented it then, but don't have a huge problem with it now. I can't say either way how it has affected me. Basically, I don't think it affected me very much either way.

In debates with my mother as a child, I'd decry spanking, and she'd relay stories of her youth growing up in the South, where her dad would make her and her siblings walk out into the yard and personally select a switch with which to receive punishment. Belts were also used; the argument being that I was relatively fortunate. So I'm familiar with the whole switch thing.

I don't think I was abused, and I'm uncertain what I think of my maternal grandfather's conduct. I wasn't there, so I can't be sure. I'm not necessarily of the mind that any use of a switch goes far enough to constitute abuse, and should require intervention.

That said...

THIS KID WAS 4 FUCKING YEARS OLD!! SKIN WAS BROKEN REPEATEDLY, AND THERE WAS DAMAGE TO HIS BUTTOCKS, THIGHS, AND EVEN HIS SCROTUM!!!


Jesus fucking christ. How can AP think that's a moderate over-step? I have a 3-year old niece, and no matter what I thought about spanking, there's no way I'd think she'd be eligible for even a moderate spanking in a years time, much less the kind of spanking that'd break skin and be evident a week hence. It's hard to imagine calmly reasoning, and choosing to act that way. This is fucking awful. I don't know what should happen, but honestly, I won't feel bad for AP whatever the result. I don't see it being possible that he's punished too harshly, because there should be pretty harsh punishment. And the fact that he had a son die of abuse makes it even worse; he, of all people, should be sensitive to child abuse. Good god.

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Funny how all the people saying they got hit as kids decide not to do the same to their own children.


I will hit my kids if I feel it's needed.

Nah. Break their toys in front of them.

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In debates with my mother as a child, I'd decry spanking, and she'd relay stories of her youth growing up in the South, where her dad would make her and her siblings walk out into the yard and personally select a switch with which to receive punishment.


God, the South is a fucking gutter. I hate it.

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Funny how all the people saying they got hit as kids decide not to do the same to their own children.


I will hit my kids if I feel it's needed.

Nah. Break their toys in front of them.

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His is worse than Rice (they're both terrible, I know). There is at least the possibility that Rice's was done in an angry moment without thought. Peterson's seems pre-meditated and thought about. Bad guy. Needs help.

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In debates with my mother as a child, I'd decry spanking, and she'd relay stories of her youth growing up in the South, where her dad would make her and her siblings walk out into the yard and personally select a switch with which to receive punishment.


God, the South is a fucking gutter. I hate it.

Though, as I've said, I'm against spanking... Poppy merely had to utter the word "switch," and all the children were doubtlessly quickly in line. I think it's a lazy thing to some degree. Though it's generally the worse option, it's one that will achieve instant results in some situations. Probably more useful with a large family.

Edit: oh, and "spare the rod, spoil the child." That one was passed on down to me. Ah, the limitless wisdom of the Bible.

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His is worse than Rice (they're both terrible, I know). There is at least the possibility that Rice's was done in an angry moment without thought. Peterson's seems pre-meditated and thought about. Bad guy. Needs help.


The kid clearly provoked him by spilling his goddamned apple juice all over the place.

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Why the need for a weapon with a four your old?

Even if you're a lunatic and want to leave welts on your child, easy enough with hands


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Why the need for a weapon with a four your old?

Even if you're a lunatic and want to leave welts on your child, easy enough with hands

Right. If you're going to spank a 4 year old at all, at the very worst, swatting with the hand should suffice. Breaking the skin of a 4 year old is just fucking crazy. The fact that AP doesn't know that tells me he needs some sort of counseling, at the very least.

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The child told his mother that Peterson "likes belts and switches" and "has a whooping room."


I can't figure out if this is disturbing or hilarious.

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He keeps saying "whoopin." Either I'm out of touch with contemporary nomenclature or he is mimicking the old school mentality of his elders.

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He keeps saying "whoopin." Either I'm out of touch with contemporary nomenclature or he is mimicking the old school mentality of his elders.

Hope AP doesn't read the board and see your name. Might give him ideas.

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He keeps saying "whoopin." Either I'm out of touch with contemporary nomenclature or he is mimicking the old school mentality of his elders.

Hope AP doesn't read the board and see your name. Might give him ideas.


Leashes are completely humane. Don't you dare insinuate otherwise.

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Speaking of CPS, we used to get hit with a ruler (with tape wrapped around it) when I went to Caldwell.


I remember this too. I was a terrible kid and was hit by all my teachers until 3rd grade. I pulled off a substitute's wig in 3rd grade and she whooped me in the bathroom and tried to rip my hair out of my head.


You were hit multiple times when you were a kid. Were you not hit hard enough to understand the message that the person hitting you was trying to convey, or did being hit really not do much to change your behavior?


I got the message. The discipline was needed. It also made me more aware of the things I was doing.

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Funny how all the people saying they got hit as kids decide not to do the same to their own children.


I will hit my kids if I feel it's needed.

Nah. Break their toys in front of them.


:lol: So I'll have another reason to buy more.

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His is worse than Rice (they're both terrible, I know). There is at least the possibility that Rice's was done in an angry moment without thought. Peterson's seems pre-meditated and thought about. Bad guy. Needs help.


Agreed. He has a fucking whooping room. He hit his 4 year old son in the face and his son feared that he would punch him in the face if he told.

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He will have plenty of time to GET HELP while never playing football again in cell block H.

Still going to need hear more about this first grand jury that couldnt find something wrong here.

Or did Roger have these pictures too in a safe?

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Speaking of CPS, we used to get hit with a ruler (with tape wrapped around it) when I went to Caldwell.


I remember this too. I was a terrible kid and was hit by all my teachers until 3rd grade. I pulled off a substitute's wig in 3rd grade and she whooped me in the bathroom and tried to rip my hair out of my head.


You were hit multiple times when you were a kid. Were you not hit hard enough to understand the message that the person hitting you was trying to convey, or did being hit really not do much to change your behavior?


I got the message. The discipline was needed. It also made me more aware of the things I was doing.


Yet you continued to be a bad kid even after being corrected. Doesn't seem like being hit had all that much impact on getting you to think before you acted.

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In debates with my mother as a child, I'd decry spanking, and she'd relay stories of her youth growing up in the South, where her dad would make her and her siblings walk out into the yard and personally select a switch with which to receive punishment.


God, the South is a fucking gutter. I hate it.

Though, as I've said, I'm against spanking... Poppy merely had to utter the word "switch," and all the children were doubtlessly quickly in line. I think it's a lazy thing to some degree. Though it's generally the worse option, it's one that will achieve instant results in some situations. Probably more useful with a large family.

Edit: oh, and "spare the rod, spoil the child." That one was passed on down to me. Ah, the limitless wisdom of the Bible.


The Bible is right. I don't believe you should just spank your kids. You have to talk to them and explain why they shouldn't do something. As a kid my father would talk to me for what seemed like an hour before hitting me. I appreciated that more than the approach of my grandmother after he passed. Half the time I didn't know what she had figured out that I done until after she stopped hitting me.

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Must be nice to be rich enough to have a "whoopin' room."

Man, I thought after Ray Rice we learned hitting adult males is perfectly okay and totally different than hitting kids and females, but it turns out that really, some people are perfectly okay with hitting kids too. Like I said though, embrace it, hit everybody. If you were hit as kid, beat the shit out of your parents when they're old and don't listen to you, it's only fair. If you're the old person getting whooped by your kid, Circle of Life bitch!


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Yet you continued to be a bad kid even after being corrected. Doesn't seem like being hit had all that much impact on getting you to think before you acted.


Not sure if you have kids or not but very few kids figure these things out right away and even when they do they like to take chances.

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Yet you continued to be a bad kid even after being corrected. Doesn't seem like being hit had all that much impact on getting you to think before you acted.


Not sure if you have kids or not but very few kids figure these things out right away and even when they do they like to take chances.


So what's the point of hitting them if they can't figure out why they are being hit?

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What is a switch? Are they referring to a knife?


It's like a riding crop. A real hillbilly might use a small tree branch.

This is correct, from the hillbilly.

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Yet you continued to be a bad kid even after being corrected. Doesn't seem like being hit had all that much impact on getting you to think before you acted.


Not sure if you have kids or not but very few kids figure these things out right away and even when they do they like to take chances.


So what's the point of hitting them if they can't figure out why they are being hit?

Like Seacrest said, more often than not it's about the parent and not the kid.


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So the guy had a grand jury hearing in May? and the Vikings are just gathering info? Another case of not knowing what seems was easy info to gather?

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