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Wow, ESPN was quick to circle the wagons. Someone better check on Keith and make sure he is still with us.

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Most of those are numbers that tons of players could reach if they stayed healthy enough to play for 20 years. He's a great at cumulative stats.

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Most of those are numbers that tons of players could reach if they stayed healthy enough to play for 20 years. He's a great at cumulative stats.

Is staying healthy enough to play major league baseball for 20 years not an accomplishment in and of itself?

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Most of those are numbers that tons of players could reach if they stayed healthy enough to play for 20 years. He's a great at cumulative stats.

Is staying healthy enough to play major league baseball for 20 years not an accomplishment in and of itself?


It's quite an accomplishment, but longevity doesn't equate to greatness. Wouldn't you agree?

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Most of those are numbers that tons of players could reach if they stayed healthy enough to play for 20 years. He's a great at cumulative stats.

Is staying healthy enough to play major league baseball for 20 years not an accomplishment in and of itself?


It's quite an accomplishment, but longevity doesn't equate to greatness. Wouldn't you agree?

True but it's not as if this was 20 years of bad baseball. He may not be the best Yankee or best SS of his generation but he was still a very accomplished player. I just don't see why Olbermann has to build up strawmen to tear at a guy who is definitely going to the Hall.

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Most of those are numbers that tons of players could reach if they stayed healthy enough to play for 20 years. He's a great at cumulative stats.



Do you know how many guys have hit .310 for a career? It's only about 100 in the history of the game.

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Most of those are numbers that tons of players could reach if they stayed healthy enough to play for 20 years. He's a great at cumulative stats.



Do you know how many guys have hit .310 for a career? It's only about 100 in the history of the game.


Then where was the farewell tour for Todd Helton?

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I still don't get what Olbermann's real beef is with the farewell tour anyway. Let's not pretend that this isn't a bunch of guys getting paid millions to play a game we all played as kids. Does it really harm the super serious game of baseball if they have a goofy little ceremony before each one to give Jeter a watch or a clump of dirt?

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Councilman Les Whinen wrote:
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Most of those are numbers that tons of players could reach if they stayed healthy enough to play for 20 years. He's a great at cumulative stats.

Is staying healthy enough to play major league baseball for 20 years not an accomplishment in and of itself?


It's quite an accomplishment, but longevity doesn't equate to greatness. Wouldn't you agree?

True but it's not as if this was 20 years of bad baseball. He may not be the best Yankee or best SS of his generation but he was still a very accomplished player. I just don't see why Olbermann has to build up strawmen to tear at a guy who is definitely going to the Hall.

I don't think anyone is saying he wasn't good or great, and doesn't belong in the HOF, but he's not the greatest of all time for his franchise, for his position, or his generation.

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True but it's not as if this was 20 years of bad baseball. He may not be the best Yankee or best SS of his generation but he was still a very accomplished player. I just don't see why Olbermann has to build up strawmen to tear at a guy who is definitely going to the Hall.

I don't think anyone is saying he wasn't good or great, and doesn't belong in the HOF, but he's not the greatest of all time for his franchise, for his position, or his generation.

A point on which we both agree. But no one is really saying that about him. Olbermann is just taking some comments from Posada out of context and making up the rest so he has something to get riled up about.

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Most of those are numbers that tons of players could reach if they stayed healthy enough to play for 20 years. He's a great at cumulative stats.



Do you know how many guys have hit .310 for a career? It's only about 100 in the history of the game.


Then where was the farewell tour for Todd Helton?


I guess that's up to the Rockies.

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it's the yankees, it's espn, it's 24 hour sports news...anyone who is shocked by the farewell tour being overblown probably went to jimmy johns between 7/23-8/1.


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Keith Olberman can go straight to hell, where he should fit in quite nicely along with Satan and many other notable communists.

Keith Olberman is so obviously jealous of Derek Sanderson Jeter that it is practically oozing out of his greasy skin. Is Keith Olberman so upset because nobody has ever cared when he decided to leave one of the many jobs at which he has been a failure? How is that political commentary career going Keith Olberman?

The farewell tour for Keith Olberman at MSNBC was to have hot coffee thrown at him and a hard kick into his ass region. Ha ha ha!

Keith Olberman is a disgrace. How many World Series Championships has Keith Olberman won? That is correct - zero point zero (0.0). How many voluptuous supermodels has Keith Olberman been with? That is correct - zero point zero (0.0).

Everybody knows that I am a great champion of peace. If, however, duels were still legal, I would probably have to challenge Keith Olberman to a duel. Obviously, he would decline my challenge, since he is a spineless little geek, who only dreams of being as great a ballplayer as Future Hall of Famer Derek Sanderson Jeter.

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Then where was the farewell tour for Todd Helton?
Helton announced his retirement in the middle of September last year, IIRC. His #17 was retired in April.

He also got a horse. Elmhurst STeve approved.

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Keith Olberman can go straight to hell, where he should fit in quite nicely along with Satan and many other notable communists.

Keith Olberman is so obviously jealous of Derek Sanderson Jeter that it is practically oozing out of his greasy skin. Is Keith Olberman so upset because nobody has ever cared when he decided to leave one of the many jobs at which he has been a failure? How is that political commentary career going Keith Olberman?

The farewell tour for Keith Olberman at MSNBC was to have hot coffee thrown at him and a hard kick into his ass region. Ha ha ha!

Keith Olberman is a disgrace. How many World Series Championships has Keith Olberman won? That is correct - zero point zero (0.0). How many voluptuous supermodels has Keith Olberman been with? That is correct - zero point zero (0.0).

Everybody knows that I am a great champion of peace. If, however, duels were still legal, I would probably have to challenge Keith Olberman to a duel. Obviously, he would decline my challenge, since he is a spineless little geek, who only dreams of being as great a ballplayer as Future Hall of Famer Derek Sanderson Jeter.


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Keith Olberman can go straight to hell, where he should fit in quite nicely along with Satan and many other notable communists.

Keith Olberman is so obviously jealous of Derek Sanderson Jeter that it is practically oozing out of his greasy skin. Is Keith Olberman so upset because nobody has ever cared when he decided to leave one of the many jobs at which he has been a failure? How is that political commentary career going Keith Olberman?

The farewell tour for Keith Olberman at MSNBC was to have hot coffee thrown at him and a hard kick into his ass region. Ha ha ha!

Keith Olberman is a disgrace. How many World Series Championships has Keith Olberman won? That is correct - zero point zero (0.0). How many voluptuous supermodels has Keith Olberman been with? That is correct - zero point zero (0.0).

Everybody knows that I am a great champion of peace. If, however, duels were still legal, I would probably have to challenge Keith Olberman to a duel. Obviously, he would decline my challenge, since he is a spineless little geek, who only dreams of being as great a ballplayer as Future Hall of Famer Derek Sanderson Jeter.



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[quote="stoneroses86"]Keith Olberman can go straight to hell, where he should fit in quite nicely along with Satan and many other notable communists.

Keith Olberman is so obviously jealous of Derek Sanderson Jeter that it is practically oozing out of his greasy skin. Is Keith Olberman so upset because nobody has ever cared when he decided to leave one of the many jobs at which he has been a failure? How is that political commentary career going Keith Olberman?

The farewell tour for Keith Olberman at MSNBC was to have hot coffee thrown at him and a hard kick into his ass region. Ha ha ha!

Keith Olberman is a disgrace. How many World Series Championships has Keith Olberman won? That is correct - zero point zero (0.0). How many voluptuous supermodels has Keith Olberman been with? That is correct - zero point zero (0.0).

Everybody knows that I am a great champion of peace. If, however, duels were still legal, I would probably have to challenge Keith Olberman to a duel. Obviously, he would decline my challenge, since he is a spineless little geek, who only dreams of being as great a ballplayer as Future Hall of Famer Derek Sanderson Jeter.[/quote

Excellent points SR.

I think that only Mini Ditka gets to decide who goes to hell though.]

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So Jeter's middle name is a salute to the old Bruins party boy?

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So Jeter's middle name is a salute to the old Bruins party boy?

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NEW YORK—Following Derek Jeter's 2,722nd career hit Friday, Yankee fans and teammates took a moment to honor the all-star shortstop for having 144 fewer hits than former journeyman designated hitter Harold Baines.

Jeter, who reached the historic milestone in the third inning of his team's game again Baltimore, joined a pantheon of Yankee greats that includes Mickey Mantle, Joe DiMaggio, and Lou Gehrig—all of whom share the distinction of having fewer career hits than Baines, a one-time winner of the Silver Slugger Award.

"This is a very special moment for me and for the entire Yankee organization," said Jeter, who received a six-minute standing ovation, multiple video tributes, and hours upon hours of media coverage for being 144 hits behind Harold Baines. "As a young boy playing baseball, I never dreamed I would someday be mentioned in the same breath as [Harold Baines], let alone reach the level of having [12 dozen fewer hits than him]."

"They called him the Iron Horse for a reason," said Jeter, apparently referring to the retired designated hitter and sometime outfielder, whose 1981 Fleer rookie card is worth $9.99 in perfect mint condition. "He was a hero. Not just to baseball fans, but to the entire country."

Jeter's 2,722nd career hit not only puts him in the company of Yankee legends, but also ranks him with an elite group of 675,000 additional baseball players past and present with fewer hits than Baines, who played for the Chicago White Sox, Texas Rangers, Oakland Athletics, Baltimore Orioles, Chicago White Sox again, Baltimore Orioles again, Cleveland Indians, Baltimore Orioles for a third time, and Chicago White Sox yet again, and is not a member of the Hall of Fame.

Though Jeter prides himself on his team-first attitude, the Yankee shortstop was visibly excited to step into the shadow of Harold Baines.

After hitting safely to right field, Jeter smiled, clapped his hands, and raised his helmet to the throngs of cheering fans, many of whom sat through an 87-minute rain delay to witness their hero fall well short of Harold Baines' 2,866 career-hit mark.

Baines led the American League in slugging percentage in 1984.

"I'm glad I can tell my kids that I was at the game when Derek Jeter [didn't come close to getting as many hits as 22-season veteran Harold Baines, who won his only World Series as a bench coach]," Yankee fan Nick Sullivan said. "[Harold Baines]."

Fellow Yankee players were equally excited for their teammate, rushing the field to congratulate Jeter on successfully becoming a professional baseball player who has fewer base hits than Harold Baines, and only slightly more than Omar Vizquel and Bill Buckner.

Even the team's principal owner, George Steinbrenner, who has largely avoided the public eye since the new Yankee Stadium opened, released a statement extolling his shortstop for taking his rightful place 13 spots below Harold Baines on the all-time career-hit list.

"For those who say today's game can't produce legendary players, I have two words: Derek Jeter," the statement read. "Game in and game out, he simply produces [a lot less than retired nonentity Harold Baines]. And that's why we are honoring this significant accomplishment tonight."

Born in 1959 in Easton, MD, Harold Baines attended St. Michaels High School, where he batted .532 as a senior and was named an all-American. He was drafted by the Chicago White Sox in 1977 and would go on to a professional career in which he had more hits than Derek Jeter.

Baines was not on hand to witness Jeter's achievement, and is presumably still alive somewhere.


all of these are pretty great

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You just described everything that Keith Olbermann has done in his life.

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Olbermann made some great points but he left out the postseason success.

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Olbermann made some great points but he left out the postseason success.

Kinda like saying Jonas Salk is overrated and leaving out the whole Polio vaccination thing.

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Olbermann made some great points but he left out the postseason success.

Kinda like saying Jonas Salk is overrated and leaving out the whole Polio vaccination thing.


I'm sure he purposely left that out. Jeter's greatness comes from what he did when the games mattered the most.

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Olbermann made some great points but he left out the postseason success.

Kinda like saying Jonas Salk is overrated and leaving out the whole Polio vaccination thing.


I'm sure he purposely left that out. Jeter's greatness comes from what he did when the games mattered the most.

Of course. I think the "Jeter sucks" crowd likes math more than baseball.

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Olbermann made some great points but he left out the postseason success.

Kinda like saying Jonas Salk is overrated and leaving out the whole Polio vaccination thing.


I'm sure he purposely left that out. Jeter's greatness comes from what he did when the games mattered the most.

Of course. I think the "Jeter sucks" crowd likes math more than baseball.

Nobody is saying Jeter sucks.

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Nobody is saying Jeter sucks.


No, but Olbermann seemed to be saying that Jater is </= Thurman Munson and Willie Randolph. That's just silly.

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