Thursday Night Football: Does the gameplay really suck?

pittmike · **Posted:** Thu Oct 09, 2014 10:41 pm

My larger point was every year there is some can't miss must have (sometimes Heisman) QB that everyone must have. So yeah Luck is fine but where does he stand in the NFL? And larger point is most come in as hype and suck like Pryor, Leaf, Bradford etc.

Kirkwood · **Posted:** Thu Oct 09, 2014 10:44 pm

pittmike wrote:

My larger point was every year there is some can't miss must have (sometimes Heisman) QB that everyone must have. So yeah Luck is fine but where does he stand in the NFL? And larger point is most come in as hype and suck like Pryor, Leaf, Bradford etc.

No there isn't. He's a top-5 quarterback. No they don't.

Luck was considered the best QB prospect since Elway. Slightly different echelon of prospect we're talking here.

pittmike · **Posted:** Thu Oct 09, 2014 10:47 pm

Kirkwood wrote:

pittmike wrote:

My larger point was every year there is some can't miss must have (sometimes Heisman) QB that everyone must have. So yeah Luck is fine but where does he stand in the NFL? And larger point is most come in as hype and suck like Pryor, Leaf, Bradford etc.

No there isn't. He's a top-5 quarterback. No they don't.

Luck was considered the best QB prospect since Elway. Slightly different echelon of prospect we're talking here.

Tom Brady and Drew Brees wrote:

We do not agree with you.

spanky · **Posted:** Thu Oct 09, 2014 11:25 pm

Kirkwood wrote:

pittmike wrote:

My larger point was every year there is some can't miss must have (sometimes Heisman) QB that everyone must have. So yeah Luck is fine but where does he stand in the NFL? And larger point is most come in as hype and suck like Pryor, Leaf, Bradford etc.

No there isn't. He's a top-5 quarterback. No they don't.

Luck was considered the best QB prospect since Elway.

Eh...maybe since Manning.
But you're right. He was 'can't miss'....and is proving everybody right. He's currently a top-5 QB in the league and still young.

Nas · **Posted:** Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:13 am

spanky wrote:

Kirkwood wrote:

pittmike wrote:

My larger point was every year there is some can't miss must have (sometimes Heisman) QB that everyone must have. So yeah Luck is fine but where does he stand in the NFL? And larger point is most come in as hype and suck like Pryor, Leaf, Bradford etc.

No there isn't. He's a top-5 quarterback. No they don't.

Luck was considered the best QB prospect since Elway.

Eh...maybe since Manning.
But you're right. He was 'can't miss'....and is proving everybody right. He's currently a top-5 QB in the league and still young.

What about all his turnovers and all the passes that should have been intercepted? Only bad to average QB's throw passes like that every game. He'll never learn. The Colts should let him go immediately.

W_Z · **Posted:** Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:17 am

RFDC wrote:

Someone should tell Fitzpatrick that his beard looks horrible.

it doesn't make sense to have a beard like that in houston, texas. that beard belongs in antarctica or the icy cape.

IMU · **Posted:** Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:19 am

immessedup17 wrote:

TNF is generally a high scoring affair with defenses having trouble getting ready with a short week of rest.

I think offense favors the Colts. 30-21.

Close...needed a few more points each.

Brick · **Posted:** Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:22 am

Nas wrote:

What about all his turnovers and all the passes that should have been intercepted? Only bad to average QB's throw passes like that every game. He'll never learn. The Colts should let him go immediately.

Andrew Luck has 19 touchdowns.

Nas · **Posted:** Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:27 am

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

Nas wrote:

What about all his turnovers and all the passes that should have been intercepted? Only bad to average QB's throw passes like that every game. He'll never learn. The Colts should let him go immediately.

Andrew Luck has 19 touchdowns.

That's an okay stat but all of those near interceptions tells me he will never be more than a slightly above average QB. He's going to be looking for a big payday soon and I think the Colts would be foolish to pay a guy like him a lot of money. Sure he went to a smart school but he just isn't smart enough to learn that you can't be a great QB if you have 7+ hypothetical interceptions a game.

Kirkwood · **Posted:** Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:29 am

Nas wrote:

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

Nas wrote:

What about all his turnovers and all the passes that should have been intercepted? Only bad to average QB's throw passes like that every game. He'll never learn. The Colts should let him go immediately.

Andrew Luck has 19 touchdowns.

That's an okay stat but all of those near interceptions tells me he will never be more than a slightly above average QB. He's going to be looking for a big payday soon and I think the Colts would be foolish to pay a guy like him a lot of money. Sure he went to a smart school but he just isn't smart enough to learn that you can't be a great QB if you have 7+ hypothetical interceptions a game.

Very true. Good thing he's only 25.

Brick · **Posted:** Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:32 am

Nas wrote:

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

Nas wrote:

What about all his turnovers and all the passes that should have been intercepted? Only bad to average QB's throw passes like that every game. He'll never learn. The Colts should let him go immediately.

Andrew Luck has 19 touchdowns.

That's an okay stat but all of those near interceptions tells me he will never be more than a slightly above average QB. He's going to be looking for a big payday soon and I think the Colts would be foolish to pay a guy like him a lot of money. Sure he went to a smart school but he just isn't smart enough to learn that you can't be a great QB if you have 7+ hypothetical interceptions a game.

Not sure what your point is with all of this. I'd be just fine judging actual results and not potential mistakes or making excuses like you have been doing all week.

Nas · **Posted:** Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:33 am

I would trade Hypothetical Luck for Rex Grossman.

Nas · **Posted:** Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:36 am

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

Nas wrote:

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

Nas wrote:

What about all his turnovers and all the passes that should have been intercepted? Only bad to average QB's throw passes like that every game. He'll never learn. The Colts should let him go immediately.

Andrew Luck has 19 touchdowns.

That's an okay stat but all of those near interceptions tells me he will never be more than a slightly above average QB. He's going to be looking for a big payday soon and I think the Colts would be foolish to pay a guy like him a lot of money. Sure he went to a smart school but he just isn't smart enough to learn that you can't be a great QB if you have 7+ hypothetical interceptions a game.

Not sure what your point is with all of this. I'd be just fine judging actual results and not potential mistakes or making excuses like you have been doing all week.

Except you and many others here spent the first few weeks of the season doing just that. You all said there isn't another good QB in the NFL that throws a bunch of passes that could be intercepted every week.

Brick · **Posted:** Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:36 am

Nas wrote:

Except you and many others here spent the first few weeks of the season doing just that. You all said there isn't another good QB in the NFL that throws a bunch of passes that could be intercepted every week.

No we didn't.

Hawg Ass · **Joined:** Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:00 pm **Posts:** 30714

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

Nas wrote:

Except you and many others here spent the first few weeks of the season doing just that. You all said there isn't another good QB in the NFL that throws a bunch of passes that could be intercepted every week.

No we didn't.

I wish Nas wouldn't start drinking so early in the day.

Brick · **Posted:** Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:58 am

How does your head feel today pittmike?

Nas · **Posted:** Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:59 am

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

Nas wrote:

Except you and many others here spent the first few weeks of the season doing just that. You all said there isn't another good QB in the NFL that throws a bunch of passes that could be intercepted every week.

No we didn't.

When I have the time later today I will search for the posts of your and others complaining about Cutler's play despite his touchdowns to interceptions ratio being no worse than 3 to 1 until the 2nd half of the Packers game.

Regular Reader · **Posted:** Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:00 am

Nas wrote:

When I have the time later today I will search for the posts of your and others complaining about Cutler's play despite his touchdowns to interceptions ratio being no worse than 3 to 1 until the 2nd half of the Packers game.

Frank Coztansa · **Posted:** Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:02 am

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

Nas wrote:

Except you and many others here spent the first few weeks of the season doing just that. You all said there isn't another good QB in the NFL that throws a bunch of passes that could be intercepted every week.

No we didn't.

Yes you did.

Brick · **Posted:** Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:04 am

Nas wrote:

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

Nas wrote:

Except you and many others here spent the first few weeks of the season doing just that. You all said there isn't another good QB in the NFL that throws a bunch of passes that could be intercepted every week.

No we didn't.

When I have the time later today I will search for the posts of your and others complaining about Cutler's play despite his touchdowns to interceptions ratio being no worse than 3 to 1 until the 2nd half of the Packers game.

That is a different statement all together.

I believe most of the talk was about how it will eventually even out and it was still early and it has started to.

Brick · **Posted:** Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:04 am

Frank Coztansa wrote:

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

Nas wrote:

Except you and many others here spent the first few weeks of the season doing just that. You all said there isn't another good QB in the NFL that throws a bunch of passes that could be intercepted every week.

No we didn't.

Yes you did.

Post the link please.

Brick · **Posted:** Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:55 am

I think it is safe to say that both Frank and Nas were reading Hypothetical Boilermaker Rick posts.

Nas · **Posted:** Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:57 am

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

I think it is safe to say that both Frank and Nas were reading Hypothetical Boilermaker Rick posts.

Be patient my friend. I haven't even started searching yet.

Brick · **Posted:** Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:58 am

Nas wrote:

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

I think it is safe to say that both Frank and Nas were reading Hypothetical Boilermaker Rick posts.

Be patient my friend. I haven't even started searching yet.

Good luck.

spmack · **Posted:** Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:10 am

BRick, just don't pull an NSJ and start deleting/revising posts.

sinicalypse · **Posted:** Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:19 am

Nas wrote:

That's an okay stat but all of those near interceptions tells me he will never be more than a slightly above average QB. He's going to be looking for a big payday soon and I think the Colts would be foolish to pay a guy like him a lot of money. Sure he went to a smart school but he just isn't smart enough to learn that you can't be a great QB if you have 7+ hypothetical interceptions a game.

God's Son wrote:

Jay Cutler will lead the Bears to a 2015 Super Bowel Victory

oh wait, are we talking about jay cutler or andrew luck here? with that description nas gave you can literally replace "Colts" with "Bears" and you're pretty much describing jay cutler in a nutshell. or conversion van.

2015 SUPER BOWeL HERE WE COME!

also, hypothetical INTs is the football metric of the future! by the year 2020 cyboers* and bernstein will argue about how THE MATH IS IN. and hypothetical INTs are a for-sure outlier of future success/failure because YOU'VE SEEN THE EVIDENCE. THERE IS NO DEBATE HERE!

* cyboers = inevitably terry boers and his ISDN line merge into a sentient/ish creature that lives to rubberstamp lieutenant dan bernstein of the local 36th social justice bigfoots division, making b&b the future home of "bitchin, twitchin, and old country lynchings" since 2018.

Brick · **Posted:** Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:22 am

spmack wrote:

BRick, just don't pull an NSJ and start deleting/revising posts.

I don't believe I said that. Almost every quarterback has some bad throws every week. Even Rodgers and Brees have a few.

Some do it more than others and some don't put up the gaudy numbers that overcome it...

Don Tiny · **Posted:** Fri Oct 10, 2014 11:23 am

First Thursday night game to have a point differential under 20.

Nas · **Posted:** Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:39 pm

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Brick · **Posted:** Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:44 pm

Nas wrote:

http://score670.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=89338

viewtopic.php?f=72&t=89338&start=25

Thank you for confirming I never said that!

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