Listening to AM1000 this morning. Murph likes the Maddon move and is onboard with Theo's statement on what's best for the organization. I see the move as making a split between Theo and everybody with the Cubs who work for him (if there wasn't one already!) He does a lot of stuff on the sneak. Like the time Dempster was in the room while they tried to move him.

ATTN JORR,BR,GD: Is it wrong for a Cub fan to be angry a man was lied to about job security?
A few months after my raise,I was fired,then of course I died a week later. Hopefully, Ricky handles it better than me!

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

No, jimmy. You're right. The tired excuse of "That's just business" is simply a justification for horrible behavior. No different from me sticking my gun in your ribs and saying "I've gotta get mine" or sticking my dick in your wife and saying, "It's just pussy."

I'm very disappointed in the callousness of Cub fans. Poor Darkside has a heart that is two sizes two small. "He deserved better". What a crock of shit! If he deserved better, and you were in the position of being able to treat him better and failed to do so, what the fuck does that make you? A complete and utter douchebag.

Thanks for being a Cub fan with a heart and soul, jimmy.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

If I don't switch to the Sox after this, I never will. At one time in my life,I did like the Sox. The Chuck Tanner years. That was a great colorful group of players.

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

Completely agree. No difference between the scenarios.

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Don't worry, spanky. It's just business.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

next time i get fired from a job and i still get paid everything i was promised ill let you idiots know. it will be awhile.

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the world will always the world. your entire existence is defined by your response.

You want to be robbed at gunpoint? It's the same thing.

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We're not all in the same business.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Jimmy, as a lifelong diehard suffering Cubs fan, would you prefer the incompetent & passive Cubs management from years past? Why are you so concerned about Ricky? You realize that he will get his full salary, right? For the love of God, the Cubs cant put one mans job ahead of an entire organizatoin & fan base.

When the Cubs win the World Series you will be sitting on the bandwagon right next to me!

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CSFMB 2014 Nascar Pick 'em Champion

We don’t have a trillion-dollar debt because we haven’t taxed enough; we have a trillion-dollar debt because we spend too much. — Ronald Reagan

This has reached epic levels of ridiculousness.

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"Play until it hurts, then play until it hurts to not play."
http://soundcloud.com/darkside124 HOF 2013, MM Champion 2014

Yeah jimmy, just look at all the rings Maddon has won for fucks sake!!

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Proud member of the white guy grievance committee

It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

I feel like there is still some room to grow

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Just win baby! (no, too cliched and dated)
Just win now (no, not really. Maybe not lose so much anymore)
Just want to win, suckers (that addresses too many who might think that means now).
Just want what we want (Ok, truthful but Joe doesn't like it)
Just win* (simple, elegant, and timeless).




*Anytime AFTER we've made a substantial ROI and after we've gotten all that we can get for the family trust.

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DRINK BƎTTƎR. @theRIPH

They don't even believe what they're saying.

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Please Note: We are not approving the JimmyPasta for Dan Bernstein trade. However, Jimmy is free to leave.

The 'It's just business" that Theo used, that many Sox fans have some how come to equate to Jerry ripping off the state of Illinois, once again Theo is saying it wasnt fair and I am pretty sure Ricky got a nice big check.

NOTE: Anyone wants to fuck me over and give me a $4 mill check to leave and do nothing, please present me the offer. My feelings will be OK. I will buy new ones.

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"That's what the internet is for. Slandering others anonymously." Banky
“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”

My guy!

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

Post of the year candidate.

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Bingo.

Ricky is not a 12 year old.

I will now hang up and wait for the next 7 Cub threads.

Yeah wow. Everyone has been arguing for the Cubs to win now (against my long term vision). Then when they make a bold step, they get ripped by the guys who wanted them to waste $100M per year on free agents for the past three years. Funny stuff indeed.

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Hawaii (fuck) You

Agreed.

Call us when the great Joe Maddon wins his first World Series.

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Agreed.

95% of it on this board is from Sox fans.

I'm embarrassed for them. Self-awareness is not in abundance on the South side.

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I'm choosing to ignore the emotional screeds of both Cub and Sox fans (especially the Cub fans controlling Chicago sports radio) on the subject of Ricky "Raw Deal" Renteria, and instead will listen to the large amount of baseball executives who are saying that it was a classless/unethical maneuver by Theo Epstein, Joe Maddon, and the Cubs.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

The majority of whom would have made the same exact move if presented with the options Epstein were given.

Do you really believe that? Why didn't the Cardinals go after him? Don't they want to win? No, they're smart enough to know they already have a manager and managers make very little difference. Generally, you don't fire a manager for being "bad", you fire him because the team is bad and you can't fire the players.

And the very same statistics that Maddon and Epstein are lauded for using (as if everyone else is a fucking dunderhead) expressly tell you that Maddon makes no difference. Oh, the irony!

Finally, I'm fairly confident that you as a Cardinal fan aren't trembling in fear based upon the signing of Joe Maddon. Right?

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Look at the winning World Series managers over the last 20 years. Interesting that there are no randoms thrown in there. All are highly respected baseball people.

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

Exactly IMU. Ricky was not the guy to guide us to the World Series. All these "offended" folks are the same ones saying the Cubs strategy is wrong. So they go out and get one of the best managers in the game, and now they find a new line of attack against Theo.

I think we all feel bad for Ricky, but the Cubs are doing what it takes to build a winner.

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Hawaii (fuck) You

I don't waste time feeling sorry for millionaires.

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Now there's a chicken and an egg argument if I ever heard one. Are you saying Renteria isn't highly respected? Because if that's your take, Epstein should be fired immediately for hiring him.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Why would Ricky be highly respected as a manager? You have to prove yourself to become highly respected. He had one year. It was a good year for a first time manager, but he didn't set the world on fire. He didn't lead a team of overachievers deep into the playoffs.

Epstein hired the best guy for the job at the time. The team made strides under Ricky Renteria. Now, for the 2015 season, Epstein again hired the best guy for the job.

Not only do I think Epstein should keep his job, but I think he has already earned himself an extension. The improvements this organization has made since his takeover are many. All signs are pointing toward a rapid improvement at the major league level at this point. This organization might have been the single worst 3 years ago.

You may want me to be upset with the organization I root for, but I have no problem disappointing you. If my patience toward this rebuilding process offends you.... "gosuckadick" as the kids say.

edit: I'm going to nip the next argument in the bud.

No, the Cubs didn't give Renteria enough time to become a highly respected baseball manager. But that isn't their job. The Cubs aren't in the business of "growing" managers. The Cubs are aiming toward different goals. And aren't being short sighted about it.

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.