I'm still complaining about Gasol and still would rather have the younger Stephenson. That doesn't mean that I think Gasol sucks. Your dope man is great!

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I'm glad you mentioned Thibs. I'm souring on him also. He sways far too much towards the defensive end for my liking. The Bulls needed a scorer or two down the stretch and he went with all defensive guys. It's a pattern with him and I think it's going to hurt them in the long run. He almost cost them last night by going away from Gasol. Even noted Homer King was critical of that though he didn't criticize Thibs but ultimately it is on Thibs to tell his players where the ball should go. U know tacitly who the criticism was directed

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Pau wasn't playing with any effort and had missed about 20 layups and should have been benched to send a message. I agree Thibs does fall in love with certain lineups.

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Say no to dope! Every comment that I can remember you making about Gasol has been negative. It funny how the Hornets really aren't going with the 23 yr. old Stephenson are they? That's a shitty contract for such a young burgeoning superstar don't you think. You are after all the expert salary cap guy. Explain that one

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you still need a guy that can get his own look. That is why I would play him over Taj. In the playoffs everyone plays hard and you're not going to be able to out effort guys. That is Taj strength but it won't be in the playoffs. He is not a match up problem and Gasol can be. Even in that game Gasol looked better than Gibson. Thompson murdered Gibson on the off. Glass

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His immaturity cost him tens of millions. He took 10-20% less to play for MJ if I recall correctly.

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Thompson murdered both and Varejao owns Gasol. I think it depends on how much Taj continues to develop offensively and if Pau can give enough effort for Thibs to trust him. Rose being healthy and somewhere near what he used to be plays a role too. When Pau gives effort and scores the Bulls are a top 2 team.

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At Tajs age I think that this is about the best you'll get from him offensively. Plus he is a bit undersized if you're looking for him to take on top tier fours. Solid backup though.

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I have been a Gasol guy for a long time and never bought into the whole notion of him being soft. He had a history of out playing great big men or at the least holding his own. He instantly made the Lakers the favorite to win when he was traded to them and I'm more worried about injury than anything else. He is not the guy he was but he is still a good to very good player

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His post game looks better. I think he looked good against Washington in the playoffs. He was arguably their best player. Having him as a backup makes the team better. Pau couldn't play that role. The Bulls have arguably the deepest team in the NBA BUT they still lack a wing player that can create his own shot if Rose gets hurt.

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Next to Duncan he was the most skilled big man in basketball. He has lacked the toughness and energy though. He played hard and with toughness the last time the Lakers won a title but that is about it.

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I think DAntoni was the problem. I think he was misused by him. If you trace DANTONI arc he tries to destroy certain players career. I can count at least three times where he featured lesser players. I think he fashioned himself as some sort of mad scientist offensive guru and it's a better story if u make chicken salad out of chicken shit

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Lance Stephenson had 2 pts against the Hornets on 1 for 6 shooting. Sat the entire fourth quarter for the 2nd time in 4 games. This is not revisionist history because I called it in the summer. He was vastly overrated by people on this board. He is not the difference maker that some on here made him out to be. I know it's early but it's also early for the Hornets to be giving up on him unless they really don't think he is that good anyway.

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He hasn't been score other than his last game but he's doing everything else. His scoring will come. He didn't forget how to shoot. I believe he has more rebounds than Gasol.

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He has two games of scoring two points. He never really knew how to score. He only avg. 14 points per game last yr. Which was his career high. He makes terrible decisions and he really isnt much of a shooter. The guy is a slasher that is turnover prone and will look for his own shot when pressed. It is extremely telling that the coach of the Hornets is already souring on him. Kidd-Gilchrist didn't play last night and he still sat the entire 4th quarter. I kept reading how he knows how to get his own shot. I wonder how much studying of Stephenson you and others on here have actually done. He is from the J.R. Smith school of erratic. He has never been a big time scorer in the NBA.

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Love reportedly already sick of Cleveland. Will seriously consider opting out of deal after season to go to Lakers.

where is this report?

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

From the great Sam Smith.

Then I expect him to sign a six-year max deal with the Cavs that also includes an ownership piece when he retires.

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Did you get my PM?

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More Gasol bashing but I make this stuff up.

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If you are trolling me you are doing a great job. Not wanting Gasol isn't bashing him just in case you aren't aware.

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You bashed the hell out the guy and it's disingenuous now to suggest otherwise. I can't even find my rebuttal to Stephenson. You responded to it but I don't know which thread it's in. I took the knife to him because I didn't and dont think he is that good. He was definitely touted on here by many to be a budding all star. He really isn't a scorer his career high was the fourteen he avg. Last yr and it was 14 a game. He also is not the shot creator you made him out to be. He became the cause celebre once the Bulls missed on Anthony and he shouldn't have been. 4th or 5th best at best on a championship team and he really hasn't had much of an impact for Charlotte his turnover s cost them one game and he hit a game winner in another. Played well last night but I definitely didn't want to see him on the Bulls and I highlighted it during my rant in the summer. No hindsight here.

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So basically what you're saying is you couldn't find any posts with me saying those things? I still need an apology. Stephenson would have been the Bulls 4th or 5th best player. He would have been the only player besides Rose that could create his own shot. The Bulls still NEED another guy that can create his own shot. That's why Marshmelo and Stephenson was at the top of most fans wish list.

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I'm sure you remember this little nugget from days gone by. That assessment doesn't look so dumb now does it?

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I still think he will turn it around. I'll go with "the jury is still out" on this one. At least let the season play itself out.

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I think the jury has rendered a verdict. Stephenson stinks to holy hell.

He may actually be worse than first anticipated. He appears to be the worst free agent signing of the off season. He is actually worse than Boozer.

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This is quite the interesting thread. Massive over valuing of Lance Stephenson (8ppg, 4rpg, 4apg last year with Charlotte/ 5ppg, 3rpg, 2apg with Clippers), and shameful downplaying of Gasol (17.7ppg, 11.5rpg, 1.9bpg in 101 games with Bulls).

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