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Dumbest win of the season. Bunch of frauds still. They will finish 9-7.

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Dumbest win of the season. Bunch of frauds still. They will finish 9-7.

Agree, to try and tell me they are a divsion winner is a joke....CJ, is a huge blow to them, I actually think they are worse than the bears without him and thats saying something.

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Here is what I don't understand. Mike Pierrera (sp?) said that the delay of game was a dead ball foul, so there is no 10 second runoff. In the final second of a game, say a team is tackled in bounds around the opposition's 10-15 yard line, no timeouts, and all they need is a FG to tie/win. What is stop a player from making a late hit or roughing penalty-- which are dead ball fouls-- to stop the clock. Take the 15 yards and kick a ~40 yard FG instead of a chip shot ~25 yard FG.

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Here is what I don't understand. Mike Pierrera (sp?) said that the delay of game was a dead ball foul, so there is no 10 second runoff. In the final second of a game, say a team is tackled in bounds around the opposition's 10-15 yard line, no timeouts, and all they need is a FG to tie/win. What is stop a player from making a late hit or roughing penalty-- which are dead ball fouls-- to stop the clock. Take the 15 yards and kick a ~40 yard FG instead of a chip shot ~25 yard FG.

The clock wasn't running because they spiked the ball, if the clock had been running it would have been a 10 second runoff and the game would have been over.

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Dumbest win of the season. Bunch of frauds still. They will finish 9-7.


Half of their team was injured against Atlanta, including almost all of their skill players on offense (CJ, Bush, Ebron, Pettigrew, Fauria). They are off this week. Plenty of time for nagging injuries to heal.

Other than Tate, Stafford was throwing to Theo Riddick, Corey Fuller, Jeremy Ross, Ryan Broyles, and the great Kellen Davis.

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CJ, is a huge blow to them, I actually think they are worse than the bears without him and thats saying something.


The facts don't back that up. They are 4-1 since he has been nothing more than a decoy, or out. They beat the Saints, who just smoked the Packers, who smoked the Bears.

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That TD catch by Johnson wasn't fair to the DB.

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I'm pretty sure they're NFC Bengals. I am eager for the playoffs to start so I can fade them.


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Yeah, the defense is great but I dont think you can ride this "win it in the last possession" shit to a Super Bowl


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Yeah, the defense is great but I dont think you can ride this "win it in the last possession" shit to a Super Bowl


Why not? Stafford isn't throwing bad INTs, like he did in the past. There is no dominant team in the NFC. It's wide open. The Lions still have Tampa, Minnesota, and Bears x 2 on the schedule. If they can get by the Drew Stanton led Cardinals, they may very well get the #1 seed.

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There is no dominant team in the NFC.
The Cardinals are 8-1

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Chus wrote:
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Yeah, the defense is great but I dont think you can ride this "win it in the last possession" shit to a Super Bowl


Why not? Stafford isn't throwing bad INTs, like he did in the past. There is no dominant team in the NFC. It's wide open. The Lions still have Tampa, Minnesota, and Bears x 2 on the schedule. If they can get by the Drew Stanton led Cardinals, they may very well get the #1 seed.

I wasnt thinking out the Lions situation specifically. I just think the offense will have to be great in a few games to win a Super Bowl. I dont think they can ride the formula all the way there.


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I'll believe in the Lions when they finally beat the Packers on the road. Hasn't happened since 1991.

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cards - 3 v lion

Neither team is close to dominant. Both have had some very close games, det especially. Some of those game they just should not have won, late whistles, bad calls, etc.

Now. det goes to Az without Palmer, Stanton starting who isnt terrible, good backup.

Lions without Cj and Bush are an average team. Dont care who they beat without them.

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Frank Coztansa wrote:
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There is no dominant team in the NFC.
The Cardinals are 8-1


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They haven't been dominant. They got smoked by the one great team they played. Their schedule is about to get difficult. No more Giants, Redskins, Raiders, or the Brandon Weeden led Cowboys left on the docket.

The Chiefs were 9-0 last year, but nobody other than CBS Sports thought they were the top team.

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Chus wrote:
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There is no dominant team in the NFC.
The Cardinals are 8-1


They haven't been dominant. They got smoked by the one great team they played. Their schedule is about to get difficult. No more Giants, Redskins, Raiders, or the Brandon Weeden led Cowboys left on the docket.

The Chiefs were 9-0 last year, but nobody other than CBS Sports thought they were the top team.

This cardinals team is significantly better than that Chiefs team. Although with Palmer going down, who knows?

The Lions could make the Super Bowl, sure. But they have been pretty mediocre for a solid month now, despite getting wins. As we have seen many times before, teams that just "find ways to win" usually end up finding ways to lose.

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cards - 3 v lion

Already down to pickem/AZ -1

Neither team is close to dominant. Both have had some very close games, det especially. Some of those game they just should not have won, late whistles, bad calls, etc.

Which was exactly my point. Without a dominant team, a few good breaks can put an above average team in the Super Bowl. Good teams find a way to win close games.

Now. det goes to Az without Palmer, Stanton starting who isnt terrible, good backup.

I'm not a big fan of Palmer. Stanton is just as good.

Lions without Cj and Bush are an average team. Dont care who they beat without them.

Take away all of their good players, and they are an average team? Bigfan from Elmhurst.

Show me a team that doesn't suffer when they lose players of that caliber. It wasn't just them. All three TEs were out, as well. Again, good teams find a way to win those games.


SF is the team to look out for

You can have a team with an inaccurate QB, who will most likely have to play three road games in the playoffs.

Green Bay is the best team in the NFC.

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Chus wrote:
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cards - 3 v lion

Already down to pickem/AZ -1

Neither team is close to dominant. Both have had some very close games, det especially. Some of those game they just should not have won, late whistles, bad calls, etc.

Which was exactly my point. Without a dominant team, a few good breaks can put an above average team in the Super Bowl. Good teams find a way to win close games.

Now. det goes to Az without Palmer, Stanton starting who isnt terrible, good backup.

I'm not a big fan of Palmer. Stanton is just as good.

Lions without Cj and Bush are an average team. Dont care who they beat without them.

Take away all of their good players, and they are an average team? Bigfan from Elmhurst.

Show me a team that doesn't suffer when they lose players of that caliber. It wasn't just them. All three TEs were out, as well. Again, good teams find a way to win those games.


SF is the team to look out for

You can have a team with an inaccurate QB, who will most likely have to play three road games in the playoffs.

Green Bay is the best team in the NFC.

I'm not sure how you can say Green Bay is better than Arizona, Detroit, New Orleans, SF, and Seattle. When teams get pressure on Rodgers they look like a bottom 10 team.

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This cardinals team is significantly better than that Chiefs team. Although with Palmer going down, who knows?


I disagree. They are pretty much one and the same. They beat tomato cans, but can't beat the Broncos.

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The Lions could make the Super Bowl, sure. But they have been pretty mediocre for a solid month now, despite getting wins. As we have seen many times before, teams that just "find ways to win" usually end up finding ways to lose.


They were mediocre with half of the offense injured. Take away all of Rodgers' weapons, and they aren't destroying teams either. The Lions have beaten GB, NO, and MIA.

They aren't just getting lucky. Stafford isn't turning the ball over, like he did in previous years.

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I'm not sure how you can say Green Bay is better than Arizona, Detroit, New Orleans, SF, and Seattle. When teams get pressure on Rodgers they look like a bottom 10 team.


All of those teams are flawed. Getting pressure on Rodgers is easier said than done.

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Chus wrote:
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I'm not sure how you can say Green Bay is better than Arizona, Detroit, New Orleans, SF, and Seattle. When teams get pressure on Rodgers they look like a bottom 10 team.


All of those teams are flawed. Getting pressure on Rodgers is easier said than done.

I agree there is no dominant team in the NFC. I just think you can make just as good a case for about 6 other teams as you can for GB being the best.

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I'm not sure how you can say Green Bay is better than Arizona, Detroit, New Orleans, SF, and Seattle. When teams get pressure on Rodgers they look like a bottom 10 team.


All of those teams are flawed. Getting pressure on Rodgers is easier said than done.

I agree there is no dominant team in the NFC. I just think you can make just as good a case for about 6 other teams as you can for GB being the best.


I guess we will just have to wait and see how this shakes out in January.

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After seeing the Lions/Falcons game I'm good.

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After seeing the Lions/Falcons game I'm good.



Every team has a game like that. You are writing the Lions off for winning against a formidable offense team, despite missing half of their skill players on offense? I think it is impressive to win without guys like that in the lineup.

Everybody wrote off New England after they struggled against Oakland, and got pounded by KC. Since that point, which is no coincidence that Gronk got healthy, they have been on a roll.

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Every team has a game like that. You are writing the Lions off for winning against a formidable offense team, despite missing half of their skill players on offense? I think it is impressive to win without guys like that in the lineup.

Everybody wrote off New England after they struggled against Oakland, and got pounded by KC. Since that point, which is no coincidence that Gronk got healthy, they have been on a roll.


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After seeing the Lions/Falcons game I'm good.



Every team has a game like that. You are writing the Lions off for winning against a formidable offense team, despite missing half of their skill players on offense? I think it is impressive to win without guys like that in the lineup.

Everybody wrote off New England after they struggled against Oakland, and got pounded by KC. Since that point, which is no coincidence that Gronk got healthy, they have been on a roll.


The Bears beat the Falcons like a drum and the Bears are the worst football team ever.


You could play the six degrees of separation game, to attempt to prove that Tampa is better than Denver.

Team X beat Team Y, and Team Y beat Team Z, so blah blah blah.

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After seeing the Lions/Falcons game I'm good.



Every team has a game like that. You are writing the Lions off for winning against a formidable offense team, despite missing half of their skill players on offense? I think it is impressive to win without guys like that in the lineup.

Everybody wrote off New England after they struggled against Oakland, and got pounded by KC. Since that point, which is no coincidence that Gronk got healthy, they have been on a roll.


The Bears beat the Falcons like a drum and the Bears are the worst football team ever.

Transitive theory really doesn't work in the NFL.

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Chus wrote:
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After seeing the Lions/Falcons game I'm good.



Every team has a game like that. You are writing the Lions off for winning against a formidable offense team, despite missing half of their skill players on offense? I think it is impressive to win without guys like that in the lineup.

Everybody wrote off New England after they struggled against Oakland, and got pounded by KC. Since that point, which is no coincidence that Gronk got healthy, they have been on a roll.

They have 2010-2012 Falcons vibe. Obviously not quantifiable. They just seem ripe for an ass kicking once the playoffs come along.


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