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Any coaching change or whatever will be only a half solution; the other half is going in a different direction at QB. For whatever reason Cutler is not the guy, so you can't start another.season with him under center. The Cutler era should end this winter.


They need to call his bluff and allow him to retire and break his contract.

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Any coaching change or whatever will be only a half solution; the other half is going in a different direction at QB. For whatever reason Cutler is not the guy, so you can't start another.season with him under center. The Cutler era should end this winter.


They need to call his bluff and allow him to retire and break his contract.


Or trade him to some NFL wasteland where he can rightfully toil away in obscurity. NYJ, Jacksonville, Oakland, etc. Phil will receive a fourth round pick in return which he will subsequently use on a hot special teams specialist prospect.

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Any coaching change or whatever will be only a half solution; the other half is going in a different direction at QB. For whatever reason Cutler is not the guy, so you can't start another.season with him under center. The Cutler era should end this winter.


THIS!


Also,if we get Spada to interview Virginia,we could be a few weeks away from watching her block a FG to win a game!

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2014 10:19 am 
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David Haugh on the money today:

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A most considerate man, Marc Trestman surely meant no harm when he insulted the intelligence of every Bears fan and observer Monday at Halas Hall.

But come on, Coach, nobody in town is that football stupid.

"I think this team and this locker room is in a good place at this time," Trestman said the day after the most humiliating loss in recent franchise history to the Packers.

In a good place at this time? Just curious, what would constitute a bad place, 0-9? Trestman reads his team worse than Jay Cutler reads defenses.

At this time, your 3-6 team has three straight losses — giving up 106 points in the last two. At this time, your quarterback guaranteed $54 million cannot guarantee anything about any throw he makes. At this time, your defense couldn't stop a run-on sentence with a period, and your special teams require a different adjective. At this time, the Bears loom as a bigger factor in the 2015 NFL draft than the 2014 NFC playoffs.

At this time, your team and your locker room are in anything but a "good place," Coach, no matter how many times you want to look at the tape.

"We have to be honest with ourselves," Trestman said. "We cannot sugarcoat this whatsoever."

So why did Trestman spend 20 minutes dipping his words in saccharine?

This reaction feels as redundant for me as it should be regrettable for him, but Trestman continues to show no feel for the job as an NFL head coach. This is not what Chicago wanted to hear from Trestman or what the Bears needed to do in the face of crisis, which amounted to nothing.

Instead of Chairman George McCaskey announcing that somebody had lost his job to show organizational accountability or that the search had begun for a football guy to oversee the general manager and head coach, the Bears allowed Trestman to deepen the embarrassment.

He lauded the intellect of a coaching staff that won't change and defensive coordinator Mel Tucker, whose defense routinely blows coverages and gives up touchdowns. He praised the tremendous practices the Bears have, as if they matter. He dismissed any idea that his players loafed at Lambeau Field or that Jay Cutler could be benched — shudder the thought — if the football carnage continues. He acknowledged the Bears "were not a very good football team" before assessing a team that sounded closer to 6-3 than 3-6 based on his description.

"We've got to ... put the San Francisco game on, the Jets game on and see why we were able to play four quarters against Atlanta in competitive football games," Trestman said.

No need for videotape to remember why the Bears won those games. For starters, the 2-8 Jets and 3-6 Falcons stink. And the 49ers gifted the Bears the victory when quarterback Colin Kaepernick "Cutler-ized" his offense by committing four turnovers. To hear Trestman wax poetically about those victories, the Bears beat the Broncos, Seahawks and '72 Dolphins.

"If we have to get a plan together to move forward, it's got to look at what we did when we were doing it well and why that was working and this is not (now)," Trestman said.

With delusional public performances like Monday's, Trestman isn't just making it easier for the Bears to fire him after two seasons. He's nearly making it imperative they do.

Trestman's see-no-evil news conference 18 hours after a 41-point loss was the oral equivalent of getting beaten 55-14. He appeared unaware, unprepared and oblivious to the reality surrounding his job, which becomes more tenuous by the day. By embracing the status quo, Trestman empowered every fed-up Bears fan to demand big changes, which many hope will include him.

Consider the contrast in Trestman's Pollyannaish assessment of the Bears with Packers receiver Randall Cobb's. Cobb told reporters late Sunday that "you could tell that they kind of lay down a little bit."

Nothing indicts a coach more than players who won't play hard for him.

Packers teammate Datone Jones piled on while explaining the difference in the teams. "We believe in Aaron (Rodgers)," Jones told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. "That's what separates us from the Bears. I feel like the Bears really don't believe in Cutler."

And when that happens?

"Guys are out there playing for themselves," Jones said. "That's what we don't have here."

A team that quit in a rivalry game and lost faith in its quarterback hardly sounds like one with no compelling reason to change anything, the way Trestman depicted the Bears. A team with little fight and less unity seeks strong leadership that Bears players aren't getting.

As a result, this threatens to become more than a "disturbing stretch," as Trestman called it. His denial of real problems eventually could hasten his descent into unemployment. That's a good place for NFL head coaches who just don't get it.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2014 10:26 am 
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The Chicago Bears need a new GM and Head Coach. We are the second largest market in NFL and operated like a bottom tier team. Illinois residents and Bears fans should have a say since we funded Soldier Field renovations with tax dollars. Bears President George McCaskey should hear your opinions. Mine is to hire Bill Cowher best coach available. Share with friends
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What a great idea. I'm sure after your whole "boy near tear" saga, you are certainly in ol' George's good graces so he would gladly welcome emails from you.

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Tresty is going to get one more year, Tucker is gone and Joe d should be as well.

so who do you want as D coordinator


Terry said his guys said Tresty is as good as gone. :wink:


I hope Terry is correct but it's just a good guess and we all know it. I would love to take the odds on Tresty being canned. Good odds and a good chance he does get canned.

Tresty at $3M a year with 1 year left? If so, i would agree

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Bears President George McCaskey should hear your opinions. Mine is to hire Bill Cowher best coach available. Share with friends


I'll share with Emmitt Smith.

You contact every other human being that's ever held a football on TV.

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I think the Bears should stay the course and keep both Trestman and Tucker for the duration of their contracts. By doing this, the Bears will have lots of first round opportunities to draft young players to make this team somewhat respectable again. That is if they hire a competent person to draft these players.

This NFC North will be owned by the Packers and Lions for at least the next 5 years, so by that time the Bears should have a young core of talented players to compete with. Cutler will be gone as will BFarce and Jared Allen.

Also, Virginia will be dead hopefully.

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Hold off on Trestman.

Jimmy Johnson was the HC of a 1-15 team.

Bill Belichick coached 5 of 6 losing seasons before he took off.

Bill Cowher coached 14 years and won one SB.

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I'm not the kneejerk reaction type but Trestman has made some logical sports people, in the matter of a couple of weeks, come to the conclusion that he cant do this job. That is an unparalleled plummet in the history of this city, if not the entire sport.

I dont know what the answer is and I have no hope this organization knows, either.

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bigfan wrote:
I hope Terry is correct but it's just a good guess and we all know it. I would love to take the odds on Tresty being canned. Good odds and a good chance he does get canned.

Tresty at $3M a year with 1 year left? If so, i would agree


Trestman's contract runs through the 2016 season, so after this season there are 2 years remaining on the deal.


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If Jim Harbaugh stays in SF, hire my guy Gus Malzahn from Auburn.


That's the kiss of death then. Your last "guys" were Trestman and Emery.


Actually, I wanted either Mike McCoy or Chip Kelly. I bought in to Emery and Tresty and was wrong.
Gus could do with the Bears what Kelly did with the Eagles.

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i see spada is still pissed at the bears.... still mad you couldnt get a 6 year old entrance in to the miller lite party deck? with a ticket that clearly said 21 and over?


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i see spada is still pissed at the bears.... still mad you couldnt get a 6 year old entrance in to the miller lite party deck? with a ticket that clearly said 21 and over?

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 9:07 am 
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Now you have the Lovie offensive coordinator issue. Nobody will come here and we get a friend or another boob. Sometimes it's both.


ha! you think trestman has friends? i think that was the problem in the first place.... tresty was "that weird guy in the other room" du jour when he was in the NFL, and then he fucked off for his canadian odyssey and whatever contacts he had in the NFL coaching circles were gone. that's how you end up with mel tucker and decamillis, who in the case of the latter i've even heard someone get away with saying "you go hire joe decamillis if you want to be bad at special teams" right in front of zach zaidman on the radio with no retort / promising-stat from RED ALERT! that should tell you all you need to know about the guy.

curious hair summed up the lovie era nicely in that they were bad at the one thing you're supposed to be good at in the NFL (chucking the ball all over the field) but they were good enough at everything else to make it to the super bowl one year, the NFC championship game 5 years later, and close enough to the playoffs to break your heart more often than not. it was kind of fascinating, but we figured that getting in a coach who could handle the offense (see: 2013 bears) would make up for the defense and make the team interesting. the defense cratered and now the offense has done the same and hey we've always been at war with brandon marshallasia and all that.

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