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No Pittmike.

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We've had Cutler for six years, had one winning season, and made the playoffs once (beating a playoff team that had a losing season). There's nothing wrong with moving on.

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How many losing seasons have the Bears had? I believe the answer is 0. I'm fairly certain they've had at least 2 seasons with 10+ wins.

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Two winning seasons, my mistake. I guess I forgot the second one because the Bears saw fit to fire the coach for it and replace him with a dork from the Canadian league.

So we have 7-9, 11-5 + 1-1, 8-8, 10-6, 8-8, 4-6 in progress. No reason to stay married to the guy.

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Who do you replace him with? Do you just worry about that later? At worst Cutler is an above average QB.

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I dunno. Much like the Chicago Bears' decision-makers, I'm not a football guy.

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So you just want to do something just for the sake of doing it?

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Maybe you replace him with someone who can easily match his production( most qb's) for not 35 million over the next 2 years guaranteed.

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How many QBs have 23 touchdowns and 2700 yards? The contract doesn't matter now. After this season he's owed $30M over the next 2 years. Unless you draft a QB you are going to find a free agent QB for less than that that can put up numbers like that. Dumping him without having a great plan to replace his production is a bad idea.

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When you think about it, the Bears should ever cut or trade any players, because how can they know for sure their replacements will be better?

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Yeah, they plugged in the real-life Uncle Rico and got adequate production for less, then did the exact opposite of what any other team would have done.

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Yes. You do worry about that later. That is how this works.

You thank the other team for helping you start your rebuild earlier. Even if you think Cutler is still a high quality player he won't be here when the Bears are legitimate contenders again. At best, what they have to hope for is a bounce back year next year where they end up going 9-7 and maybe making the playoffs but are still obviously outclassed by better teams when it matters. It's just a really bad situation for the Bears. Eventually, you have to decide to rebuild. If they had done it when Emery was hired then they'd be approaching their window now and Cutler would still be the best option.

The worst part about the Cutler contract is that as it stands now, they can't even draft the next qb in this draft.

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Wait!!! He completed 33 passes yesterday. His receivers mustve finally gotten open and Trestman called good plays for once. Lets not jump the gun on this kid.

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

This isn't baseball or basketball, you and I both know it doesn't take long to rebuild in the NFL. The hardest piece to find is a QB that's above average. At worst Cutler is an above average QB.

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If you look at almost all of the Super Bowl teams, you see this pattern for quarterbacks.

Above average and not paid a lot.
Elite and paid a lot.

Plenty of teams rebuild for a while. Sometimes they have fluke seasons but there is a big difference between the true Super Bowl contenders and the Browns having a good year.

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That may be true but considering Eli won twice I'll take my chances with Cutler unless you draft a guy who shows he has the potential to be really good. The next 2 years of Cutler's contract are below market value. Draft a guy next year and try to develop him.

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No.
You really can't though unless you are just set on rebuilding which is why Cutler should be gone. Cutler would have to go away after year 3 in that scenario anyways.

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He has $30M remaining on a 3 year deal. He would have no issues with getting $15M a year on the open market. It also makes his contract tradable. Dumping him without having a potential replacement isn't smart.

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

I don't think your numbers are right, and that is clearly not below market value.

I agree you can't just release him though. You have to trade him or keep him at least for one more year.

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B-b-b-but what about that magical word 'parity'?



Absolutely.

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Wasn't his contract 3 years $54M? IIRC he's getting $24M this year. Coming off a season where he threw for 4000 yards and 30+ touchdowns there would be at least 10 teams lining up to sign him to a big deal. The Bears won't have a problem finding a trading partner.

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Nas why do you want to trade a guy with those kind of projected numbers

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I believe some money was shifted to sign Jared Allen.

I wouldn't unless I had a cheaper guy who I thought could be better. We're past the ridiculous part of Cutler's contract. IMO drafting a guy to develop is the way to go if you want to get rid of him.

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I believe they called that portion a signing bonus.

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Looks like it is $31.5 million guaranteed for the next two years.

That is far from below market value.
Ok. I'm done.

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So what are we looking for here?


2nd round pick or something?