It's either the Bears or the Jets.

Let's objectively analyze the Bears:

1. Shit roster
2. Shit drafting
3. Shit management team
4. Shit ownership
5. Shit stadium
6. Shit efficiency

The only other organization I can think of as fucked as the Bears is the Jets. The Raiders could be up there but they might move to LA and Al Davis is dead.

Then you have "Phil" running signing his idiot QB to a 7 year 100+ million dollar deal when couldn've have gotten him cheaper for the franchise tag.

Who is worse and why??

The Raiders are miles ahead of the field in this one.

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Fair question at the moment.


But the Jaguars and Raiders are a little worse I think

Jags and Oakland for sure, possibly the Titans.

I see Kirkwood didn't learn anything from his posting in the White Sox thread of the same name. Oh well.

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Yes, besides the Chicago Sky.

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RFDC thinks I'm retarded.

Dumbshit

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GET IN. DO YOUR BUSINESS. WASH YOUR HANDS AND GET OUTTA THERE!!!

Oh, thanks for explaining Kirkwood. I am glad decided to start a whole new thread with a 'joke' that is not funny at all.

About what I expect out of you.

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1) Raiders
2) Jaguars
3) Jets
4) Bears

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Given the resources available, is there a franchise that does less?

Compare to the Cowboys, Patriots and Steelers.

Which Cowboys? This years good version or the mess of an orgainzation they've been in the previous 15?

Steelers are on their own level. They dont have down times.

Well, that's a completely different question.

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I'm talking about marketing the team and being in the national conversation. No matter their talent you're going to hear about the Cowboys. For the Bears it seems that's above them. A "charter franchise' doesn't need to do that.

Who the hell cares about marketing? How is that relevant to fans? Sure the Cowboys get national attention when they suck, but is that a good thing?

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Yes.

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Kirkwood is now going to start a "are the Bears the shittiest team at marketing themselves" thread

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Nope, I'm going to start is "Frank Coztanza the biggest shit for brains on CSFMB" thread

Answer: no contest.

"shit for brains" and "dumbass" are always the most clever retorts, especially on the interwebs. You, sir, are continuing to do what you do best. Keep it up.

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You two should just get it over with and fuck.

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Trestman really puts this one over the top. Rex Ryan has been a good coach in the past. Trestman may end up being one of the worst coaching hires in NFL history.

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Finishing over .500 last year guarantees that wont be the case.

I agree that its really bad though

Did. Not. Happen.

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Oh, fuck

I dont know why I keep thinking they were 9-7

finishing AT .500 still puts him ahead of a few guys.

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He inherited a 10-6 team and absolutely destroyed it in a little over one calendar year and likely will be fired after his second year.

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Raiders just past a year since they last won a game. They are worse.

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It would certainly be the Bears worst hire, but I don't think it would come close to worst in NFL history BRick.

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Didn't Greg Schiano come in and not only destroy an ok team but also give the entire team a staph infection? I feel like that's worse than what Trestman has done so far.

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Saban probably ends up with a better record and he didn't inherit a 10-6 team.

Spurrier will probably be worse though.

Lions don't count.

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