i've always said that drunk driving leads to arrest accidents debauchery unplanned pregnancies and all kinds of horrible fates. stoned driving leads to taco bell.

but then again i do remember at least 1-2 people in my life who couldn't handle weed. i mean like SCREEEEAAAAMMMMM AND BREAK SHIT IN THE JUANA/TUBES ROOM IN GALESBURG SLFHASDHFDSF AHHHH!!!! couldn't take weed. but that was galesburg IL where in under 5 minutes at the hotel bar with a white russian in hand i figured out all of their hard drugs come from peoria. mm-hmmm.

otherwise, man, if there was a way a pot breathalyzer could get people who are actually way too high to drive that's actually great, cuz right now if cops get piss/blood/whatever i'm pretty damn sure you can be nailed for a DUI/weed for just having smoked in the last 20-30 days or whatever. i mean once weed is in your system it's either there or not and i dont think piss hair or blood can tell you when you smoked as much as you just had in some period of time up to 30 days or i guess months and months and months if it's hair. maybe i'm wrong but that's kind of shitty, and if the pot breathalyzers just dump you in the "piss/bleed for us" category where they can basically have evidence to nail any pothead with a DUI whenever they're bored, fuck that. but if these things can actually tell you when someone's too stoned (which is i think where officers' judgment usually comes in) then you've got something.

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It just makes it an impossible question to answer then, even though the science indicates that while marijuana is clearly safer to drive on, marijuana is more dangerous than driving sober.

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You and I already solved this. If you're not driving fucked up, theres nothing wrong. You're free to go.

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I don't see the problem if it is all on tape.

We might as well not have laws if we are going to worry about bad public defenders.

Honestly, you guys are arguing that it should be legal to drive no matter how many marijuana cigarettes you have, I believe the word is, toked?

I've been around enough people who are high to know I wouldn't want them driving next to me on the expressway.

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Bagels is against the field sobriety test solution.

If you aren't driving erratically and you are able to prove you are capable of driving then let them go. Then, once we have a test for the acceptable levels of thc we can treat it just like alcohol.

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If I'm not driving erratically, why should I have to submit to Officer Brick's request for a field sobriety test? The short answer is I shouldn't.

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just because it's more dangerous than driving sober doesn't mean it's a problem.
driving while tired is pretty dangerous and i don't see scientists working to develop a handheld device for officers to gauge how many hours of sleep you got last night

That is how it works though if they suspect you of being on drugs. As you have made it clear though, I wouldn't even know you were high if I was sitting next to you for hours, so I don't think you have much to worry about.

This will only get people like me who probably don't have the capability to drive while high on marijuana cigarettes and would be noticeable.

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So, just to be clear, your solution is to allow anyone to get as high as they want on marijuana doobies and drive?

X is dangerous too so let's allow Y is rarely a good reason.

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So you admit then that there is at least some danger into driving around while stoned? This is kind of like saying playing with matches is less dangerous than playing with a toaster in the bathtub.

I'm not sure of the danger of driving around after having 2 beers. I know that doesn't affect me a whole lot. I also don't think that somebody who takes 3 or 4 hits of weed is lethal behind the wheel either, but somebody who just smoked an entire joint and can barely keep his eyes open, IMO, is just as dangerous if not more so than the guy who has a BAC of .16 as he leaves the bar.

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

yes, my solution to your non-existent problem is to let people get as high as they want

they can ingest as much caffeine as they want too, just because i'm a nice guy

The problem is not non-existent.

Ok though, we have a vote for no laws against driving while high on the reefer.

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and you're legendarily all about public transportation, so what do you want these people to do? never leave home?

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Sounds like bullshit. At no point in the article do they even attempt to explain how they would know somebody is high at the time of an accident.

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I personally have never been too high to drive. Weed just isn't as potent as you're making it sound. The analogy that one joint is equivalent to .16 BAC is reefer madness levels of stupid.

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Take Uber.

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So you have tested this? I haven't. I just know that I have seen plenty of people smoke weed that would not have been able to operate a car safely after they had done so.

You took that post way to literally. I didn't mean that 1 joint = .18 BAC. If you are smoking Ike's weed its more like 12 joints = .08 BAC.

My point is that somebody who is completely and totally stoned is in fact a dangerous driver. Just like somebody who is drunk. Or tired. Or on Rx meds...

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I wouldn't really trust a guy who got so stoned off a joint he couldn't drive. I'm fine with arresting people like that now that I think about it.

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Again, too literal. There are people that sometimes get pretty drunk off of two beers. Especially if they are craft brews. I've seen people get buzzed off 3 Bud Lights. I've seen people get stoned to the point of where they are useless off of a couple of bong hits. Forget the one joint thing. It doesn't matter how somebody gets higher than a kite. My point is if they are at that point and behind the wheel, they ARE a danger on the road.

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This time you are being too literal.

I'm just sayin I don't trust people that can't take a couple hits of weed without losing their minds. I feel like that's a reasonable position.

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I agree with that. But still...bong hits or 12 of Ike's joints, 3 beers, 12 beers, somebody who has lost their mind should not be behind the wheel regardless of what they are under the influence of.

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By that logic you think the state should revoke Panther's driving privileges?

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I think they should at least look into it

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Its a problem because not everyone is responsible or knows their limits

For every regular smoker who smokes a hitter and is fine to drive, there is some kid getting high as fuck and then driving around like an asshole.

Im all for the breathalyzer thing if its accurate and tests only the last 5 hours (or whatever)

Right, those studies are not legit.

Would you take a study seriously if it labeled accidents as DUI's for anyone who had drank in the previous three weeks before the accident?

I have a buddy. Let's call him Brian. Some of you may have met him.

He can drink no more than a 1/2 drink of hard liquor or maybe two Bud lights before it affects him.

And he knows it so at least the roads are that much safer.

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that's a fair stance, unfortunately all the statistics are clouded (ha) in doubt

my point is that i would like to know the scope of this alleged problem before devoting endless resources into preventing it