But a big part of the problem is that Cutler refuses to throw to a spot rather than the receiver. This limitation severely contracts the range of plays Cutler can run effectively against good defenses. He is a classic bum-slayer. And if you're saying he shouldn't be "fixed," then he'll never amount to anything more than a bum-slayer.

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The Bears haven't exactly given Cutler the Peyton Manning treatment when it comes to personnel either.

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It used to be a trust thing. Knox and other receivers hung him out to dry a lot but now it's just the offense. Listen to Cutler and he'll tell you what he doesn't like. He's been asking for the opportunity to take shots downfield instead of the 3 yard screens for weeks. Recently he added plays that give receivers a chance to rack up yards after the catch and moving the pocket to his list.

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Beavis we have seen the top of the mountain and it is good.

We have also seen the top of jay cutler and it's just okay, not great.

Tice was the OC during the 2012 season, when Cutler basically decided he was going to throw the ball exclusively to Marshall. The Bears were 10-6 and could have been better if Cutler were disciplined in the passing game.

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Sorry, but Cutler is full of crap. He always blames the offense, never himself. There have been plenty of plays this year and last year that could have gone for bigger gains if he were a better quarterback.

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He made a lot of mistakes but that team makes the playoffs if he doesn't get injured or Barber isn't a complete idiot in Denver.

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I think you're confused. 2012 was Lovie's last season. Cutler started 15 games. The Denver game was a different season.

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You're right. They started 7-1 I believe 2 years in a row.

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The QBs who win playoff games and championships do so by being good game managers. Nothing wrong with the label as it means you know how to move the chains, protect the ball, and perform efficiently. While the "gunslinger" tag is sexy, especially for a city/team like Chicago which hasn't had one in our lifetimes, they may win games, put up stats, but they don't win playoff games or championships.

The list of excuses for Cutler seem to get longer and longer. Ron Turner, Mike Martz, Mike Tice, and now Marc Trestman have all tried to work with him as a Bear. His pro bowl year was not because he was that great but because the better talent was either injured or didn't want to play another game (Manning started, Favre and Cutler were the backups). His mechanics are unsound, he doesn't throw his receivers open, unlike other "greats" or "franchise" QBs he doesn't make those around him better. Because of poor mechanics and the inability to throw to a spot or area, his deep balls get him into trouble and his timing pass on outs are where he gets picked. And he doesn't look off the safety either.

When he becomes a true student of the game, field leader, and game manager, he will then begin to win. He's a helluva athlete and talent, but not a great QB.

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Jay was ruined as a "gunslinger" QB the first years here (if not the very first year.) No line, no one to catch the ball. That's enough to break a lot of QB's confidence, and sure enough... What you got now is what he is. He'll show okay mechanics when not rushed, but otherwise forget it. Its now the dink-and-donk show, with bombs that no-one catches sprinkled in.

Jay was a good acquisition at the time IF the Bears had the rest of offense. But they didn't, and took their time shoring up their needs, and it's just too late.

Considering the way this team trades/drafts, you almost want to stay with journeyman talent. Its going to remain that way as far as I can see -- probably including this Ryan guy. Inertia's a bitch...

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Here we go...since Bagels thinks my post are eh.......the difference between Cutler and Rodgers is that Jay needs tall physical receiver's so that have to make the play. Rodgers needs his wr to run their routes and HE makes the play! To answer the question yes...he can't have anymore talent around him...just watch the next 3 weeks with no Marshall.

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

He wasn't awful when Knox was his best receiver. He didn't have a true #1 until 3 years ago and he was hurt most of last year and working his way back from a hand injury Lovie's last year.

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Never about Jay always about everyone else.... one playoff win in his career...so everyone of his teammates are to blame? As Michael Jackson it's time to take a look at the man in the mirror...oh yeah

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

This is his first season fully healthy and the defense sucks and Trestman has sucked the last 8 games. Cutler is on the list but he's not at the top.

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I hope on your death bed you realize you were wrong...so so wrong about him. Cause I'm dying happy

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

I know what he is. I thought Trestman was something he isn't. That's the mistake I made.

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Once you realize you were wrong on both you'll be better off! Wait a second you are Phil Emery

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

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You can fool the whole world,
down the highway of years,
and take pats on the back as you pass.
But your final reward will be heartache and tears
if you've cheated the man in the glass.

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WCG does a nice job looking at sacks: http://www.windycitygridiron.com/2014/1 ... ans-saints

Matt Forte, you suck!!

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That's a good breakdown.

I agree with his assertion that Forte is the leading offender with regards to sacks allowed this season. For a so-called "elite" player, his blocking is awful. He often inexplicably chooses the wrong defender to engage, allowing a blitzing linebacker a free path to the QB. And even when he identifies the correct defender to engage, his blocks are fundamentally weak and are executed with very poor effort.

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Have you been talking to Aaron?

No. But seriously.

Because those are the exact words I spoke to Matt in our last team meeting, in a quite a loud tone to really try to ignite his behind. I feel comfortable that his effort will improve.

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