I would hate to be in a dark alley fighting for my life with a man like you.

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Many of those things will happen either way. Ineffective old players get let go. They got rid of Peppers even in win now mode.

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Thanks for answering the question.

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Matt Forte is a 29 year old running back. He could start to be bad at anytime now.

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I do agree that the Bears should have cleaned house after firing Lovie. They had too many players on the team that were loyal to him. They probably should have allowed him to coach the last year of his deal.

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Yes he was.

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He hasn't taken a beating since his 2nd year in the league though. His usage rate is high but I imagine he should have a few good years left based on the way he plays.

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Darkside would tell you he never takes to many hits because he always goes down on the first one.

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This is more a failing of Trestman than anything. It is the coaches job to get the respect of his players.

Outside of Cutler, I don't know if he ever did that, and the Cutler respect didn't last very long either.

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Following a great man is a tough job. You don't hear many reports of players crying or contemplating retirement when a coach gets fired. No one is coming to Trestman's defense now. In some ways he was set up to fail.

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I would have rather had them do it the "Cubs way" then make the moves they made to "compete" this year. Cubs way:

1)Don't re-sign Cutler
2)Trade Marshall for draft picks when his value was at its highest
3)Don't re-sign Tillman
4)Appoint Forte team captain and clubhouse leader
4)Sign W.Young
5)Don't sign J.Allen and Houston
6)Team goes 3-13, Top five draft pick

What exactly do you not like about this?

You are missing the two years prior and the two years after that in the "Cubs way".

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I can't say about the 2 years after but they sure aren't missing the 2 years prior.

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Yea, so that's exactly what the Bears have been trying to do the past 4-6 years. Peppers, Bushrod, Marshall, Bennett, Houston, Williams, Allen was their attempt to improve important positions while waiting for McClellin, Bostic, Greene, Frey, Hardin, Mills etc to step right in and have an impact.

BRick is calling for the Bears to pull a Cubs.

Yeah, but the two years prior did nothing to start the rebuild. With the Cubs, the day Theo got here, they already had a lot of young players that would either be part of the rebuilding or young players who turned into someone who would be part of the rebuilding(Rizzo).

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No.

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I'm getting kind of tired of every management situation in every sport somehow coming back to a referendum on the Cub rebuild.... I guess that's par for the course on this board.

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Blame the Cubs fan for this one.

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The Bears have far more talent relative to the league than the Cubs had when Theo arrived.

This complete teardown, which I'm fully in favor of, is essentially the Cubs Theo Plan.

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This is so ridiculously wrong. It's stunning how stupid this statement is.

No way. Not a chance. Who are these young players?

Two drafts resulted in two players that look to be anything more than shirt fillers, and the last draft looks marginal at best after only a year.

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I thought the premise of the OP was sound, and not even 1 post before it was thrown in. I'm not singling anyone out, many threads seem to go like

OP posits a statement
Theo gets mentioned as an analogy
Bunch of posts about THE PLAN, with a few thoughts on the original topic interspersed

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What young players?

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Castro, Rizzo(traded for because they had Cashner), Baez, Alcantara all seem pretty important to the plan to me.

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What young players do the Bears have to build around?

Jeffrey, Long, and maybe Fuller seem like the only ones that look more than shirt fillers.

The Bears have a massive drought of young talent based on years of horrible drafting.

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So it's assumed that Theo would naturally turn a bad pitcher into Rizzo, but the Bears can't do anything with Forte, Bennett, Long, Fuller, Marshall, Cutler, Jeffery, Young, or Ratliff?

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Brick might need a standing 8 count.

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I don't understand this.

Kirkwood is saying that I'm calling for the "Cubs plan" but the "Cubs plan" was to add three years of losing to what they already had gained by two previous years of losing and the pieces they had because of it. The Bears didn't have two years of losing prior to this.

Jeffery, Long, and Fuller(maybe) seem like the only potential building blocks going forward. Two draft classes were completely wasted outside of one player in each and the last draft looks to be pretty pedestrian.

Even then, I am in no way calling for them to tank the next 3 years, so even if we ignore what things were like prior to Theo getting here, I'm not calling for the "Cubs plan". I want them to clean out the Cutler and Marshall contracts in one year to make 2016 a year they can compete in.

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OK. So you're calling for a 2-year plan and Theo said it would probably take 3 years.

And the last 2 years have been losing seasons. They're under .500 and declining and missed the playoffs both years.

I never understand why you, and others, always bring up that the Cubs had sucked for a couple years before Theo came in like that was part of Theo's plan. He was actively searching for opportunities to take over bad teams as part of a master plan.

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