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Accorsi and Panthers owner Jerry Richardson have a deep history that goes back to their days with the Baltimore Colts in the early 1970s. Accorsi was the Giants' GM from 1998 to 2006, drafting Eli Manning in 2004.

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Accorsi was promoted to General Manager in 1982.[3] The Colts finished 0–8–1 in the strike-shortened 1982 season, thereby earning the right to select Stanford University quarterback John Elway with the first overall pick.[3] Elway, however, refused to play for Baltimore, and using leverage as a draftee of the New York Yankees baseball club, forced a trade to Denver Broncos.[4] The team finished 7–9 in 1983, but that would be their last season in Baltimore.[3] He resigned as GM after the 1983 season.[5]

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In 1985, Accorsi was hired by then Cleveland Browns owner Art Modell to serve as the team's new General Manager and Executive Vice President of Football Operations, serving for seven seasons.[1] Accorsi was responsible for the acquisition of quarterback Bernie Kosar in the 1985 supplemental draft.[6] During his tenure the Browns made 5 playoff appearances and got to the AFC Championship Game three times, but lost each time to Elway's Broncos.[7] He resigned in 1991.[8]

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Accorsi joined the Giants in 1994 and served as an assistant to the general manager until he succeeded Young in 1998.

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The Giants made one Super Bowl appearance under Accorsi in Super Bowl XXXV, which they lost to the Baltimore Ravens, 34-7, won two NFC East division titles (2000, 2005) while making the playoffs four times (2000, 2002, 2005, 2006).[7]

Accorsi's highest profile personnel move came at the 2004 NFL Draft, where he traded Giants first round draft choice quarterback Philip Rivers and three draft picks (a 3rd round pick in 2004 and 1st and 5th round picks in 2005) to the San Diego Chargers for Number 1 overall draft choice quarterback Eli Manning, giving the Giants a young franchise quarterback. The move met with the approval of Giants fans, who cheered loudly when the trade was announced by Commissioner Paul Tagliabue. Manning then led the Giants to playoff appearances in 2005 and 2006. In 2007, Manning led the Giants to three straight road playoff victories, culminating in a victory over the then-undefeated Patriots in Super Bowl XLII. Following the 2011 season, Manning would capture the Super Bowl XLVI title. Manning was named MVP of both Super Bowl XLII and XLVI, confirming Accorsi's belief that Manning was a star talent.[9]

Accorsi was also responsible for drafting Osi Umenyiora, Chris Snee, Justin Tuck, Mathias Kiwanuka, and Brandon Jacobs, as well as signing] Antonio Pierce, Kareem McKenzie, Plaxico Burress, and Fred Robbins as free agents. He hired current head coach Tom Coughlin after the dismissal of Jim Fassel following the 2003 season.[10] Accorsi retired in 2007.

On November 9, 2012, Accorsi was hired by the Carolina Panthers as a consultant after general manager Marty Hurney was fired.[11]

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Great. This gives me a lot of confidence.


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I bet they dont hire the guy he suggests!

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I bet they dont hire the guy he suggests!
:lol: :lol: That would be so Bear

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I don't know enough about him to judge. He probably knows more than Teddy.

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I like the move. Real NFL consultant with a lot of years under his belt and a shit load of connections not to mention he's built a few teams before. The consultant route was the right route for the Bears IMO.

Would have rather had Polian, but this works too. Good start so far.

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I like bringing a guy like this in as a consultant.

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I don't know enough about him to judge. He probably knows more than Teddy.




Big Earn is a real NFL guy from a football 1st standpoint.

I don't want to get over excited by any means, but he has a solid track record with the Giants and Browns.

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I like the move. Real NFL consultant with a lot of years under his belt and a shit load of connections not to mention he's built a few teams before. The consultant route was the right route for the Bears IMO.

Would have rather had Polian, but this works too. Good start so far.


Assuming he's going to give them his best advice.

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Even though he wasn't there his moves led to multiple SB. Philip Rivers is Romo of the West.

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I like the move. Real NFL consultant with a lot of years under his belt and a shit load of connections not to mention he's built a few teams before. The consultant route was the right route for the Bears IMO.

Would have rather had Polian, but this works too. Good start so far.


Assuming he's going to give them his best advice.




Good point, I'm sure he's there to fool the Bears and give them shit advice.

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NME wrote:
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I like the move. Real NFL consultant with a lot of years under his belt and a shit load of connections not to mention he's built a few teams before. The consultant route was the right route for the Bears IMO.

Would have rather had Polian, but this works too. Good start so far.


Assuming he's going to give them his best advice.




Good point, I'm sure he's there to fool the Bears and give them shit advice.

Matters what Ginny will say

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So...what if Accorsi likes Dick Jauron and/or Dave Wannstedt? :lol:


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Cant they call him Mr. Accorsi...and not Ernie

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I like the move. Real NFL consultant with a lot of years under his belt and a shit load of connections not to mention he's built a few teams before. The consultant route was the right route for the Bears IMO.

Would have rather had Polian, but this works too. Good start so far.


Assuming he's going to give them his best advice.




Good point, I'm sure he's there to fool the Bears and give them shit advice.

Matters what Ginny will say




Ern most likely already sent her to the Kitchen. Football is a mans business.

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Are people reacting negatively to the Bears publicly admitting they aren't qualified to get things back on track and then, to offset that deficiency, are hiring folks who purportedly are qualified? I'm confused.

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He was a consultant for the Panthers in 2012. So he told them to hire Chico.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernie_Accorsi


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NME wrote:
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I like the move. Real NFL consultant with a lot of years under his belt and a shit load of connections not to mention he's built a few teams before. The consultant route was the right route for the Bears IMO.

Would have rather had Polian, but this works too. Good start so far.


Assuming he's going to give them his best advice.




Good point, I'm sure he's there to fool the Bears and give them shit advice.


More than one Bears beat reporter has been skeptical of the Bears use of consultants in the past. One theory is that they deliberately give the Bears "good", not "great" advice.

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He was a consultant for the Panthers in 2012. So he told them to hire Chico.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernie_Accorsi


From what I've read, Chico was high on Richardson's list from the beginning of the search because he wanted an ex-player--like himself--to coach the team.

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Is this guy crying?

Man the fuck up!!

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He's also a Paterno worshipper. Someone call in and see how Danny responds.


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Are people reacting negatively to the Bears publicly admitting they aren't qualified to get things back on track and then, to offset that deficiency, are hiring folks who purportedly are qualified? I'm confused.



We've been down this road before. The team has used a search firm in the past to hire a GM--Jerry Angelo.

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Is this guy crying?

Man the fuck up!!

AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Cant they call him Mr. Accorsi...and not Ernie

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It's Ernie!
Its ME!
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Are people reacting negatively to the Bears publicly admitting they aren't qualified to get things back on track and then, to offset that deficiency, are hiring folks who purportedly are qualified? I'm confused.

Remember, that consultant is just a suggestion , but they wont "FORECLOSE" on anyone because Mommy is "Pissed off"....<wipe tears from my eyes>

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Are people reacting negatively to the Bears publicly admitting they aren't qualified to get things back on track and then, to offset that deficiency, are hiring folks who purportedly are qualified? I'm confused.



We've been down this road before. The team has used a search firm in the past to hire a GM--Jerry Angelo.



I guess then I'm unaware of what they're "supposed" to do then.

I'm not advocating one choice or the other ... it just seems to me that the people who (rightfully) are calling these idiots 'idiots' for not knowing how to run a football franchise are now calling them 'idiots' for hiring people who appear to know how to run a football franchise.

This isn't some BRick setup for an argument ... I'm just unclear what rational thought I'm missing and I'm asking rather than just hoping to figure it out while sifting through 70 pages of witty (?) banter looking for the gem.

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Are people reacting negatively to the Bears publicly admitting they aren't qualified to get things back on track and then, to offset that deficiency, are hiring folks who purportedly are qualified? I'm confused.



We've been down this road before. The team has used a search firm in the past to hire a GM--Jerry Angelo.



I guess then I'm unaware of what they're "supposed" to do then.

I'm not advocating one choice or the other ... it just seems to me that the people who (rightfully) are calling these idiots 'idiots' for not knowing how to run a football franchise are now calling them 'idiots' for hiring people who appear to know how to run a football franchise.

This isn't some BRick setup for an argument ... I'm just unclear what rational thought I'm missing and I'm asking rather than just hoping to figure it out while sifting through 70 pages of witty (?) banter looking for the gem.



Some people will complain until the team is sold

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Are people reacting negatively to the Bears publicly admitting they aren't qualified to get things back on track and then, to offset that deficiency, are hiring folks who purportedly are qualified? I'm confused.


Don.....The Bears (McCaskey and Phillips) should not be involved in hiring a coach or GM. Period.

They have not "hired" anyone to fix this mess. They have hired someone to give them names and then they will hire they guy. Here's a suggestion to Ted and George....hire someone to do the "advisors" job and forget the advisor.

Are people listening to these two dopes?? I don't want them involved in football operations....period.


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Here's a suggestion to Ted and George....hire someone to do the "advisors" job and forget the advisor.


Costs more money to have that guy on the payroll all year.

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