We're all winners then.

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Carm's tone changed. He was scared. It was funny. Especially when Marshall said "I'll see you one day." Carm might have wet himself.

Don't get me wrong. Marshall was a jerk. I just thought Carmen handled this badly.

Carm actually should have ended it quicker and let them do their show. But he kept on talking to him. So it just made him look worse.

Loser has to buy drinks when we finally bet ponies together. And no, that's not a euphemism.

I do agree with Big Fan. Marshall needs to come up with something knew for his enemies. Challenging people to get in the ring is getting old. You can't do that every time.

I know one thing for sure. Marshall will be traded. The new GM will not want to deal with him. I actually think you could get a 4th rounder for him. If you can't, just cut him.

Another reason Marshall should be gone.

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GO BEARS!!!

Marshall is a 6'5" pro athlete who is paid well to keep his body in peek form.

He harped on Carm if carm was "Secure" enough to say what he thinks.

Now, if he means 'financially secure"

Guessing Brandon, like so many other athletes, wouldnt be such free thought souls if they didnt have generational wealth in the bank.

Was a punk move by brandon....and Carm should have said it!

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“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”

Racist.

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Bingo!!!! That sums it up nicely. Except Marshall didn't mean financially secure. He meant secure to say what you mean when you're talking to somebody instead of just saying it on the air when that person isn't around. Marshall was actually right about that. Carm wasn't secure to say what needed to be said to him. But Marshall still was a bitch, too, obviously.

You could tell that Carm was thinking as this was going down, "I just don't want to get fired over this." He was scared to death. A little intimidated by Marshall but mostly scared not to say anything to get fired. Especially cuz he knows how Disney works.

But why does Disney hire a wife beater? Marshall gets paid by ESPN 1000 for these shows.

I'm shocked this hasn't made Deadspin. I'm sure it will, but it should have been there by now.

The kicker was 15 saying he was shocked when Tresty was fired. then Jurko asked him if was really shocked as if he didnt know and he walked around it. not that secure i guess

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“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”

Another angle to this: How Jurko was fucking with Carmen as this was going on. Didn't have his back. Was trying to be funny, yes. I get that. I thought Jurko was actually funny by fanning the flames. He made this thing more fun. But Carm was pissed at his partner. You could tell. He was about to break bad on Jurko, said he had something on Jurko during this exchange, but held back.

We're the only ones that listen to local sports radio.

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Grobber shitting himself made Deadspin. This is much bigger than that. It's not about them listening. People send them the weird shit that happens. You should realize that.

I googled it. Sun Times is the only one that has it as of now.

http://chicago.suntimes.com/bears-football/7/71/244088/brandon-marshall-challenges-carmen-defalco-espn-radio

he's Terrell Owens without the HOF career. this guy is so thin skinned...it's unbelievable he is an NFL player.

Are you sure about that?

Athletes say dumb shit all the time. Sports radio guys say things before fully thinking it through all the time.

Media shitting themselves? That ain't everyday.

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Athletes rarely challenge radio host to fights.

I'm fairly confident they've had your email blocked for some time now ...

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And if you believe Marshall, he didn't mean it this time and he didn't mean it last time.

Athletes arguing with the media? Happens all the time.

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Honestly I do not blame Carmen for being scared. Sure he should have stood his ground but we are talking about a sports radio host dealing with a crazy person that could explode. Not to mention who Carmen works for and it would definitely not be worth it to risk your occupation.

Yeah, I understand being careful with Marshall but there is a way to strongly state your position. He backed off at first. Just hold your ground and when Marshall mentions boxing treat it like the ridiculous idea it is

Right. Carm made the statement and then he wouldn't or couldn't back it up. From then on Marshall had him on the run. And Jurko was enjoying it even though he knows Marshall is a fuckin' tool and he would have hated being in a locker room with him. It's not hard to back up either. The Bears treat Marshall with kid gloves. You could ask the question, "Do you think they would allow the 50th man on the roster to act like you do without saying a word?"

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

I thought both Marshall and Carmen came off looking bad. I like Carmen but where did he get that info? Was it from Bernstein? Obviously Carmen was speaking out of his ass and got called out on it. Marshall went overboard and pushed it to an unwanted place. I never thought Marshall was serious about boxing or getting in the ring. I think he knew he had Carmen on the ropes and liked playing with him.

Not sure about Deadspin, but it made Awful Announcing and The Big Lead.

http://awfulannouncing.com/2014/brandon ... host-clown

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I agree, but you can tell Marshall would never drop it. He would bring everything back to that one topic. "Why dont you box me?"

Marshall attained that threshold of where his production is no longer equal to the pain in the ass he has become, plus he scares Dannys friends, so we need to get rid of him.

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"That's what the internet is for. Slandering others anonymously." Banky
“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”

Carmen was talking out of his ass and got called out on it. Marshall was begging for examples and Carmen couldn't give him hardly anything. Carmen choked under pressure and looked like a bitch. There is a reason why he got bumped from the afternoon slot and him not knowing what he's talking about is reason number 1435.

And just FYI I'm not a huge Marshall fan.

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I had the radio on for a little while today and caught JD and Fred talk about this, albeit really briefly. I just listened to the interview and I thought both sides came off looking bad. Carmen got caught with not having information to go right at Marshall with, and there was plenty he could have. From Marshall's press conference to his heading out to do his tv show to Jay's benching to Lance's restaurant opening to Trestman saying practices were good when they weren't...there was a lot to go on. When Carm talked about the problems he should have rattled off from a prepared list, but he got caught and didn't really have a comeback until Jurko brought up the fan in Detroit.

Marshall just came off bad as well by resorting to name calling and bullying. The team was 5-11 and was plenty dysfunctional. If you don't like the questioning, take the high road and be polite. Just because you don't raise your voice doesn't mean you still can't come off as an idiot. He claimed Carm called him a name when he didn't. It was cringe-worthy radio.

He said Carm called him a "Boogie Man".

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Carm did get it from Bernstein. The "Bears are scared of Marshall" thing. Cuz I remember catching some of their show the day after the press conference. That's when Bernstein reported the scared thing. I remember them - either Carm or Jurko - reciting Bernstein's report without giving him credit. That the Bears tried to stop the presser but they can't say no to him cuz they are scared. I think they just said there are reports saying this. No way they would credit somebody from the competing station.

So I guess you could call out Carm for saying something that he doesn't have first hand knowledge on. Relying on a Bernstein report.

Weird. Bernstein causes trouble at both stations.