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After firing Lovie he asked Marinelli to interview the 3 finalists. Marinelli ranks Arians as his first choice and Bevell as his second choice and Trestman as a distant third. When Emery hired Trestman it pissed Marinelli off and he resigned because of it.

He should have been fired then. You ask Lovie's best friend to interview replacements and then you hire the one he tells you is a distant third. That is world-class bad.

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what made me pause was the fact the defensive coordinator was interviewing his future boss.... that alone is idiotic... made worse by the fact 0-16 crazy rod actually got the coach rankings correct after the interviews that never should have happened took place.

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Did he die?


:lol: :lol: :lol: As GM of the Bears. I assume he isn't a horrible scout.

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I agree. It's weird that Marinelli helped with that process. It's weirder that Emery asked for him to help and then completely disregarded Marinelli's recommendations. The whole thing is just sooooooo Bears to borrow from Bernstein.


Emery could have a job on my staff as a college scout etc. His drafts haven't been as awful as people say.

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I agree. It's weird that Marinelli helped with that process. It's weirder that Emery asked for him to help and then completely disregarded Marinelli's recommendations. The whole thing is just sooooooo Bears to borrow from Bernstein.

Sounds like he wanted to keep Marinelli on as coordinator and was patronizing him by giving him the illusion of having input. That backfired.


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In the thread title, I think you mis-conjugated the verb "is".


http://www.csnchicago.com/bears/bears-make-sweeping-changes-halas-hall-fire-gm-phil-emery

... Emery's search in January 2013 to replace Smith narrowed to three finalists: reigning 2012 coach of the year and Indianapolis Colts offensive coordinator Bruce Arians, who has taken the Arizona Cardinals to seasons of 10-6 and 11-5, the latter getting the Cardinals into this year's playoffs; Seattle Seahawks offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell, who was behind the drafting and development of quarterback Russell Wilson and the NFL's No. 11 scoring and No. 9 yardage offenses this season; and Trestman.

At the time, the plan was to retain the highly regarded [Rod] Marinelli to run the defense. And he had planned to, remaining on even after close friend Smith was fired. But back in mid-January 2013, as part of their final selection process for a head coach to replace Smith, Emery and the organization had Marinelli interview the three finalists for the head-coaching job.

Marinelli was asked to rank the three. He did. Arians was his runaway first choice; Bevell was the second; Trestman was a distant third.

Emery selected Trestman.

When he learned of the decision, Marinelli abruptly angrily resigned and left Halas Hall for Dallas and a de facto demotion to defensive line coach.
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He did want to keep him and Marinelli was going to stay before Trestman was hired. That tells you how awful Trestman was then.

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rogers park bryan wrote:
Northside_Dan wrote:
I agree. It's weird that Marinelli helped with that process. It's weirder that Emery asked for him to help and then completely disregarded Marinelli's recommendations. The whole thing is just sooooooo Bears to borrow from Bernstein.

Sounds like he wanted to keep Marinelli on as coordinator and was patronizing him by giving him the illusion of having input. That backfired.




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He did want to keep him and Marinelli was going to stay before Trestman was hired. That tells you how awful Trestman was then.

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He did want to keep him and Marinelli was going to stay before Trestman was hired. That tells you how awful Trestman was then.


There really is no chance of another CFL coach ever being seriously considered for a head coach position in the NFL after this Trestman experiment.

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Nas wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Northside_Dan wrote:
I agree. It's weird that Marinelli helped with that process. It's weirder that Emery asked for him to help and then completely disregarded Marinelli's recommendations. The whole thing is just sooooooo Bears to borrow from Bernstein.

Sounds like he wanted to keep Marinelli on as coordinator and was patronizing him by giving him the illusion of having input. That backfired.




Nas wrote:
He did want to keep him and Marinelli was going to stay before Trestman was hired. That tells you how awful Trestman was then.

Id guess Marinelli was more pissed that they wasted his time and ignored his input then the actual choice.


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Mel Tucker seemed like a hell of a nice guy. Lets his MIL live with him. Dude must be a saint! St Mel's!

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the only thing i'll give emery is that when he came to town he looked at the team and said "i'm going to go get jay's BFF over here to be a #1 WR" and he went out and got a #1 damn WR for the price of two 3s.

idk if "dan's bears guy" directed him to start a campaign against brandon marshall because they have buyer's remorse on that extension they gave him and etc, but holy shit man a NFL wide receiver is a crazy sociopath? GET OUT OF TOWN! i've never heard of that before cuz i grew up with well-balanced top WRs like chad johnson and terrell owens.

and when the guy has his worst season as a pro (unless you think 14 games of 1000yds/3TD is worse than 13 games of 751yds and 8TD depends on how much you value TDs i guess) and like i said he's still giving you 750yds/8TD even in a lost "GET THIS GUY OUT OF TOWN!" season, well then you've got something. next year will be interesting to see if this year was the beginning of a trend or a negative blip on the radar (much like his arrival in 2012 where he had 118rec/1500+yds/11TD was a positive blip) but one thing i can for sure tell you is that when brandon marshall is out of the picture and you leave alshon jeffery to get all of the #1/double coverage throughout a game he's not the same guy we've seen blossom over the last 2 seasons when you've had at least the threat of a bonafide #1 WR in the picture.

and yes we know brandon says dumb shit akin to drinking samuel jackson beer. he'll get drunk! he'll be fucking fat girls in no time! he might even fight an enwurd or two! NO HE CAN'T STOP YELLING THAT'S JUST HOW HE TALKS! --- but to run the guy out of town because dan bernstein says its time? man.... if you come back with jay or with some new quarterback that proves the stupid point of "WE'LL PAY TOP DOLLAR TO LICK OUR FANS' RECTUM!" whatever hope this team has is pinned on 3 things: the o-line, matt forte, and that #1/2 WR tandem of marshall/alshon. and then if you can get a bonafide #3 in marquess/whoever you've got an instant offense (just add water/playcalls) and if this team can discover a new leader of the team on defense that makes sure jay doesn't have to be that guy (cuz remember the little political powerstuggle when jay showed up on urlacher's team and urlacher wasn't going to let it become jay's team? go figure that's when jay thrived... when he was just another guy)

i just think in the end we're going to end up looking at the trestman era as perhaps the alpo suhonen era of the bears.... this guy was out of his element more than donnie from the big lebowski and in the end it cost the team dearly. all that's left to see is if he ruined some of our big $$$ players by allowing everything wrong with this team to fester from 2013-2014 where it all flourished and ended in the biggest clusterfuck i've seen in 2000s bears history.

yet this team is still a readymade playoff contender.... just add playcalling. i dont have any faith in the organization to hire the right guy after the trestman debacle, so prove me wrong you sons of a piano player you!

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I thought the Marshall trade was great at the time until I learned that everyone in the league knew he was going to be released and we traded 2 high picks for him.

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nothing wrong with the Marshall trade when it was made or now

I expect Marshall to come back next year and have yet another great season

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nothing wrong with the Marshall trade when it was made or now

I expect Marshall to come back next year and have yet another great season


Now that the facts have come out there is something wrong with it. Everyone in the league knew he was going to be released and no one was making offers for him. Giving up 2 high draft picks (when no one else was making an offer) was foolish. Especially considering you had to pick up his contract. The Bears could have gotten him for a fraction of the cost (he wanted to play with Cutler) without giving up any picks.

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can you guys imagine what this year would have been without marshall?

forget the plays he made- he was the only one who actually said anything. i mean forte did speak loudly with his play, but how entertaining is that when none of it mattered? at least the next day i got to hear marshall saying things we all were thinking.

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Marshall didn't play well this year and he was a cancer. His coach was afraid to say he fucked up.

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After firing Lovie he asked Marinelli to interview the 3 finalists. Marinelli ranks Arians as his first choice and Bevell as his second choice and Trestman as a distant third. When Emery hired Trestman it pissed Marinelli off and he resigned because of it.

He should have been fired then. You ask Lovie's best friend to interview replacements and then you hire the one he tells you is a distant third. That is world-class bad.


The best part is that Rod sticking around to choose Arians is the kind of bullshit that turned Arians off coming here in the first place. This is so stupid, it makes my head spin.

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Didn't arians say he didn't want Marinelli?


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nothing wrong with the Marshall trade when it was made or now

I expect Marshall to come back next year and have yet another great season


Now that the facts have come out there is something wrong with it. Everyone in the league knew he was going to be released and no one was making offers for him. Giving up 2 high draft picks (when no one else was making an offer) was foolish. Especially considering you had to pick up his contract. The Bears could have gotten him for a fraction of the cost (he wanted to play with Cutler) without giving up any picks.

Do you have any links on Marshall was going to be cut?


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Marshall didn't play well this year and he was a cancer. His coach was afraid to say he fucked up.


Marshall was hurt but a critical component to their wins. He is deservedly mocked but that guy was a warrior on the field

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rogers park bryan wrote:
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nothing wrong with the Marshall trade when it was made or now

I expect Marshall to come back next year and have yet another great season


Now that the facts have come out there is something wrong with it. Everyone in the league knew he was going to be released and no one was making offers for him. Giving up 2 high draft picks (when no one else was making an offer) was foolish. Especially considering you had to pick up his contract. The Bears could have gotten him for a fraction of the cost (he wanted to play with Cutler) without giving up any picks.

Do you have any links on Marshall was going to be cut?


I'll look for it. I know it was posted here after last season.

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Wouldn't it be easier, and perhaps a bit more palatable, to organize a breakfast, lunch and dinner for the coaching candidate? Breakfast and lunch - meet players and assistants. Evening - dinner with the press, etc. It sounds like Marinelli and Cutler had one-on-one sessions with the finalists.


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Spaulding wrote:
Didn't arians say he didn't want Marinelli?


Yes. “It seemed awkward in Chicago because they wanted me to keep some of their (assistant coaches), which wasn’t going to happen.”

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2014/10/29/ ... ith-bears/


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Marshall didn't play well this year and he was a cancer. His coach was afraid to say he fucked up.


Marshall was hurt but a critical component to their wins. He is deservedly mocked but that guy was a warrior on the field


He was a loose cannon that couldn't get separation this year and ran the wrong route at times. He had flashes of greatness but not enough IMO to make up for being a cancer.

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Didn't arians say he didn't want Marinelli?

YES. Almost makes for feel bad for Rod a little bit. Unrequited football love.

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