why is this not one of the headlines coming out of yesterday?

Your family has owned the team since the beginning of the league. You have worked in the organization for 40 years. Shouldn't YOU have the industry knowledge to hire an executive?

Now we know that the answer to this is no. We know that hiring a guy like Accorsi is the correct move (although a consultancy is incredibly troubling to me). However, the need to hire him is a pretty strong statement that he doesn't know how to do his job.

The proper move at this time is for the Mc Caskeys to hire an Accorsi type to be a full time president, with full control of the organization. Mc Caskeys can step aside, collect their money and be the team mascot. If they have this absolute need to be involved in the day to day, take Sweaty Teddy's job, have him work under you and separate administration from football operations.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
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We need more threads about all of this.

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You do bring in a valid point but I just respect George for seeing the mistakes and bailing early. I was so happy to see Vanisi gone,it didn't matter that the guy they brought in seemed kind of "odd". As a fan you just go with the decision. Hopefully they get it right this time.

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

Ironic that a light bulb salesman could be so dim

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
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But the way they worded it, its not. The media is just spinning it that way. He's a consultant. He is just there to help in "the search" because "the search" was the problem last time. Not George or Ted. They are doing this because it took too much time and effort for "the search" last time.

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And no, I have no clue why I used so many quotations. I've had a lot of coffee.

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It's so stupid I can hardly even talk about it. How could they hire Accorsi? Shouldn't they have hired someone else to consult on hiring Accorsi? Where does it end? Aren't you already paying people to make these decisions? Besides, ultimately it's going to be Ted Phillips making the call once again and double-talking about the process. Fucking ridiculous.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George

That's all that needs to be said about the matter. Meet the new boss; same as the old boss.

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George

+1. Its still going to be a clown show. Just different clowns piling out of the car driven by Ted.

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It sounded like they hired a consultant to provide cover for a pick they will make. Both seemed to ne too concerned about the way the public views them. IMO they were too sensitive about it.

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!

so now hiring a consultant is an indictment... if george had said he would make the decision himself without a consultant he would have been blasted by all bears fans for not using a consultant/expert.... apparently he cant win at anything

if you believe accorsi is a good consultant.. you should believe the list of candidates he offers are all good options... so by that logic the bears shouldnt be able to fail like they did last time with the non-football affliated executive search firm they used.

You have completely missed the point.

The implication of hiring a consultant is that you don't have the capacity in house. That is inexcusable for a family that created the NFL and is four generations into management of a $2 billion NFL enterprise.

He is flat out saying he doesn't know how to do his job. The word indictment is justified.

This is different discussion than whether it is wise to hire an Accorsi type. Of course that move is wise when you recognize you cannot perform the essential tasks of management.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
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Is it really Phillips making decisions? It always goes back to mom or one of her sons making the call.



Is it suprising? It's like the rested on their laurels for so long the way to do things completely passed them by. This is what they have, no other business sense there or available to them. They don't know because they have never had to.

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“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”

odd as it seems it is not that unusual for family businesses to do this. rich people are not any smarter than anyone else, just luckier.

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Reality is your friend, not your enemy. -- Seacrest

I just love that Good Dolphin has come around after being wooed by some good food at a Halas Hall event!

We always ask Jay Cutler or any coach to hold themslves accountable, yet the McCaskeys act like it always someone elses fault! No Mirrors in the McCaskey homes.

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"That's what the internet is for. Slandering others anonymously." Banky
“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”

It's never Jerry Jones, wasn't Al Davis, probably not Dan Snyder's fault either. We aren't the only ones with a goofy owner, but ours are different.

I get the feeling that Phillips is almost like one of the sons at this point. He's gotten a lot of mileage out of that stadium deal. He's the Tom Hagen of the McCaskey family.

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Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Agreed.

I don't have a problem with Accorsi...the problem is that he (or someone similar) should have been hired full-time, not just as a temp.

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Chris Ballard:
In his time with the Bears, Ballard helped Chicago draft Pro Bowlers Matt Forte, Johnny Knox, Charles Tillman, Tommie Harris, Nathan Vasher and Henry Melton. He was also directly involved in many notable acquisitions and trades, including the signings of Brandon Marshall, Michael Bush, Jermon Bushrod, Martellus Bennett, D.J. Williams and James Andersen.
http://media.kcchiefs.com/media/226956/chris_ballard.pdf


Mark Ross:
Since Ross came aboard, the Giants have found important contributors both early and late in the draft, where they have selected Terrell Thomas, Hakeem Nicks, Will Beatty, Jason Pierre-Paul, Linval Joseph, Prince Amukamara, Jacquian Williams, David Wilson, Rueben Randle and Justin Pugh, the 2013 first-round draft choice who started all 16 games in his rookie season.
http://www.giants.com/team/staff/marc-ross/b3f10aa5-b99b-4517-8abd-ea613a65d0de

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George

Lake Dawson:
Dawson joined the Titans in 2007 as Director of Pro Personnel and was promoted in 2011 to VP of Football Operations. He came to the Titans’ organization with 12 years of NFL experience. While with the Seattle Seahawks, Dawson was an instrumental member of the personnel department, as the organization won the NFC West Divisional Championship in three consecutive seasons and earned a Super Bowl appearance in 2005. In Seattle, Dawson last held the title of Assistant Director of Pro Personnel and he originally joined the Seahawks as a Pro Personnel Assistant in 2001.
http://www.titansonline.com/team/staff/lake-dawson/99cc086b-f283-4a3b-8b4a-94ebe5ab20c8


Vince Newsome:
2013: Was selected to attend the NFL’s Career Development Symposium for upper management personnel at the Wharton School of Business in Philadelphia... 2011-12: Ravens acquired key free agents in WR/RS Jacoby Jones (‘12), who earned his first Pro Bowl in 2012 and three-time Pro Bowl... 2010: Ravens traded for Pro Bowl WR Anquan Boldin, 2009: Named the Ravens director of pro personnel in January...Assisted in evaluating and acquiring free agents C Matt Birk (six-time Pro Bowler)... Newsome conducted free agent workouts during the regular season and assisted the college scouting staff by evaluating talent for the NFL Draft... 2000-02: Was the Ravens’ western college supervisor, covering players from California to Wisconsin. 1996-99: Became the Ravens’ West area scout upon the team’s move to Baltimore.
http://www.ravenspr.com/coaches_personnel_bios/VINCENT_NEWSOME.pdf

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George

The problem with hiring Accorsi as a consultant is that he has no skin in the game. Unless he has some incentive clause, such as a $1m bonus if the Bears make the playoffs next year or SB within 3, then he has no real pressure to give them the best advice. I'm sure he'll give them some good opinions, but it's different when it's your ass on the line.

It would be funny if Accorsi went to George and said, "You really want my advice? Fire Ted."

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I thought the flip side to this is that Accorsi as an employee rather than a consultant gives GM candidates with options a feeling that the organization finally has some legitimacy to it.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

This is so stupid. They don't need Accorsi to give them candidates. The media knows who they are. You just look at the good teams and talk to the lieutenants that are directly below the GM. That's all Accorsi is gonna give George and Ted. Except he'll just give you his friends or his friends friends. So it won't be a thorough search.

Are you saying George just should have hired Google as a consultant and searched "NFL GM Candidates" .... ?

BTW, it's what I did.

Out of the 4 you posted here, Newsome seems like the only competent one, and he comes from a strong organization too.

Overall I haven't liked many of the names out there that I've read about tho.

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If the rule you followed lead you to this, of what use was the rule?

Totally agree with this. And if I'm an Accorsi guy, isn't that the first thing I'm going to tell Accorsi when he calls me? This is actually very typical of business. When there is a major issue going on, you throw a consultant at it to fix it, but you don't fix the people and process that caused the problem in the first place.

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If Google is good enough for Bebe it should be good enough for George.

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"It's not exactly a rocket surgery." D.J.

I think the essential tasks of management is finding the right people to make a hire. And the Bears are using the same approach that Atlanta and the Jets are using to find new talent.

If you want to bring a new lawyer to your firm, do you seek out the advice and counsel of others?

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