You Chicago folks seem to have a lot of Guys

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He wasn't good. He's an offensive guru but once he lost Randy Moss and Chris Carter his offenses sucked. That's a fact. BTW I never said Lovie was great. He's a good coach and he isn't a major league asshole like Billick.

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billick as OC/Head coach: 14 years

Top 1/3: 6 times
Mid 1/3: 6 times
Bottom 1/3: 2 times.

definitely above average.

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Well, they were run-heavy in Baltimore but they were invested in the D there. Commanding figure who won a Super Bowl with a shit quarterback. He's the exact guy Pace was describing. I think like 7 or 8 of his former assistants have had head gigs. He must be some kind of major-league douche to not even warrant a look at all of these jobs.

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"Smiles with Nostrils"

"...no Hmong, go find some blacks"

How many football coaches aren't?

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I think he must rise to a level that doesn't match his talent. He also has Kyle Boler on his resume. A great offensive mind can't make that mistake. The Ray Lewis led defense was SB ready. All Billick had to do was give them a competent offense. As an offensive expert that should have been easy.

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Ha, at least good ones. Tresty is a fine man.

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"Smiles with Nostrils"

"...no Hmong, go find some blacks"

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Kubiak is a smart guy. He turned down the chance to interview w/ the Raiders a year before he took the Houston job.

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Agreed. The Bears and Jets aren't the greatest jobs.

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The media had Ballard as the front runner, we as fans have no idea wether or not that was actually the case.

We also have no idea what was actually said in the meeting, we can only speculate but that's about as good as it's going to get.

I stand by what I said, Pace being nothing but a front man that can't make his own calls makes no sense because he was a guy with options. I think it's ok to take off the tin foil hat.

Look, I'm actually not crazy about the Pace hire myself, but not for these reasons.

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I don't care about the Pace hire one way or another. Whoever they hired was going to be subject to the whims of Phillips and McCaskey. That immediately limited guys that would take the job. They were never just going to turn the team over to a "football guy".

George loves Cutler. And accountant Ted is loathe to eat a huge chunk of money. Anyone who came in and laid out a plan that involved getting rid of Cutler just wasn't going to be hired. I don't think that's "tin foil hat" stuff.

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How do we know George loves Cutler???

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George himself has said that he does, and said he believes the Bears can win with Cutler. Tough for the CEO to say anything otherwise, but at least pubically he has been a Cutler guy for a while.

Regrdless, it should be 100% up to the new coach if Cutler is going to be the QB or not. If the Bears believe they have the right guy for a coach and he says he can work/win with Cutler, then you have to trust him.

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You're not supposed to believe what the McCaskeys say unless of course its one of those instances when you should.

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That's the point. They aren't going to hire a guy who says he can't win with Cutler. If Vince Lombardi came back from the grave and said he'd take the job for free but he was going to bounce Cutler, Phillips, I mean Pace, wouldn't hire him.

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With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Isn't it telling that 10 years into his career that we are still hearing about coaches that could possibly work with him or the fact that there's this many excuses that are thrown out every year for him. Name one other qb with as long or close to as long over a career as Cutler that's had the same chances to prove himself to be a winner. But hey this season was just completely on the defense.

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Cutler shouldn't get all the blame for poor coaches but some of his issues he could fix on his own but he refuses to. He makes decisions that a rookie would make.

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No and I never once said this was all on Cutler. But at the cost of his contract you should be able to expect more from him than you get. "We'll he didn't sign himself to the contract" is irrelevant because you still should expect more than what you get from him (I'm not saying you've said it but I've seen someone here say that). Plain and simple your return on your investment at quarterback actually diminishes both sides of the ball. He's not nor has he ever been a qb worth the amount they paid him. The coach of this team won't really matter short of maybe one or two coaches that are playing currently for a Super Bowl.

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Any coach that has Cutler as his quarterback is going to look like a poor coach.

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I don't know about that. Ron Turner was probably his best coach. Ron Turner is the same guy that didn't recruit him or Rodgers even though both wanted to play for Illinois.

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Except George ate Cutler's $15 million before when he bounced Lovie, Emery, and Tresty.

The meme that the McCaskeys are loathe to spend money had been disproved by them doing so.

The issue isn't that they won't, the issue has been that Emery was ALLOWED to throw big money at Cutler and Allen and also at coaches like that fucking dimwit Trestman.

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They also ate Peppers' money. And this last coaching staff's.

I believe the Peppers' money was strictly cap related. No check was actually cut. But your post still makes sense.

Bears have no problem spending money.

Finding the right people to spend it is the problem.

If only George and Ted would have controlled these decisions and said no.

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I'm not saying the Bears are cheap. It's about who is making the call on what to spend. If John Fox says he wants $7 million, there's no way I think Pace has the authority to agree to that without running it up the flagpole.

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As I said previously in all this. ANY GM sends it up the flagpole to spend &7M on a coach or $54M guaranteed on a player. The only ones that wouldn't are in the past like when Parcells and Johnson ran the Cowboys Dolphons etc. At that point their title was president not GM.

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Then the team president cannot say that the GM “ has total control over the football operations,” “How he wants to structure the department , the people he might want to keep, new people he might want to bring in. His whole plan, it’s his call.” Because if he wants to hire Fox and is told no, then he does not have total control.

Not one who is actually in charge.

bernstein would have been screaming if Theo Epstein had to report to Crane Kenney. This is no different. Of course, a guy like Theo wouldn't have come in those circumstances. No heavy guy would. So you're left with a lesser guy or a guy trying to make his first big break. That's fine. But the screaming that "ALL TEAMS HAVE PRESIDENTS !!!!!" is ridiculous. Epstein doesn't have to ask Kenney if it's okay to pay what it takes to get Maddon. Maybe he talks to Ricketts. But the Bears have an extra layer of a non-football guy influencing football decisions. That's a fact that cannot be denied no matter how loud some radio jackass yells at callers.

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Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don