Steve Smith is a bona fide game changer. He made and extended plays like nobody else. I'm too lazy to look, but if someone has time, look at the game reports and adjust the .570 by dividing Smith's direct contribution to the score by 50% (to be conservative). Tell us how does that .570 look. Hell, do the same with Manning's contributions in Denver.

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This is exsctly what this team needs and has been lacking for the last few years.

BEARSSS!!!

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Fox coached one of the most talented offensive teams in the NFL for the past four years. He also had some pretty good talent on offense in Carolina. Fox is Lovie 2.0.

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Yeah, well, two years ago you were calling Trestman and Emery your "guys" and predicting great success for them, too. Your predictions of future greatness for the Bears seem to lack objectivity.

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TM you are wrong. Lovie like pretty much every coach is the NFL has a system that they believe in and like to run. Fox allows his coordinators to run the system they like. He's only as good as his coordinator will allow him to be.

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Why is this such a bad thing?

Not having a specific system that you attempt to work through would seem to be a possible plus. You can then draft and prepare your team based on the talent and strengths you have instead of trying to force fit everything into your system.

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He doesn't have a system but his coordinators will. They will run their system. That means they will draft players that fit the system of the coordinators. Most people hire a coach because of the system they've run and the success that system has had.

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I was making the Fox-Lovie comparison to emphasize the fact that the hysteria over Fox is hyperbolic given that he has achieved a similar winning percentage to Lovie, yet most fans were dissatisfied with his coaching.

Nevertheless, I do think there are several philosophical similarities between Fox and Smith.

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Well, if anyone could predict fhe future accuratly, that would certainly be something.

I was hopeful for Trestman. Fox has already proven himself.

Who should the Bears have hired?

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I thought we were only including their comparative years of Carolina and Chicago.


If we're going to give him credit for coaching that talent in Denver then he also gets credit for going to the playoffs pretty much every year with a Super Bowl appearance.

In other words, his stay in Denver was a very successful one, there isn't much of anything negative to say about it even with the SB loss.

As for Steve Smith being a game changer, sure, but after him offensively the Panthers were not elite. On the flip side Lovie coached teams had talent too offensively in guys like Matt Forte (a game changer), Thomas Jones, Greg Olson, a HoF worthy kick returner in Hester (not offense technically, but still) as well as a game changing elite talent QB in Cutler that Lovie could never really find the right guy to coach up. I'll at least concede that including Cutler in this could go either way -but he does at least represent elite talent, realized or not.

Besides all that, outside of them both being based around defense as coaches I don't think their coaching style is all that similar.

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