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Agreed. Loved it. Hooked. Must see TV.

I'm the best lawyer, negotiated from a death sentence to 6 months probation.

If I HAD to be hypercritical Id say that part was a little far fetched.

I just feel like Saul's character would have left those dudes high and dry (dead) but maybe he was worried it'd get tied to him somehow


More farfetched than that machine gun rig that Walt used to take out Jack and the Nazis? :lol:

This show has a whole different vibe than Breaking Bad. When Tuco first appeared in BB he was terrifying. In Saul he's hysterically funny. I'm not sure if that's because the writers are giving this a different tone or if it's because of what we already know. Probably a little bit of both.

Yeah, Tuco was a supervillian in Breaking Bad (the baddest motherfucker up to that point) I agree its how they write him and what we know. I was wryly smiling the whole time those two guys who look like The Proclaimers were talking shit to em


BB had so much in the bank by the time that machine gun thing happened he could have made them spontaneously combust and I would have been fine with it. (Plus they built Walter up into a superhero that could actually pull off that crazy shit)


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I think they're trying to show that Tuco isn't quite Full Tuco, yet. Maybe he's not that into doing drugs or just getting started and his brain still functions to some extent - even though he can "smell lies".

I liked that he was cooking. Tuco does a lot of cooking in these shows.

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 Post subject: Re: Better Call Saul
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BB had so much in the bank by the time that machine gun thing happened he could have made them spontaneously combust and I would have been fine with it. (Plus they built Walter up into a superhero that could actually pull off that crazy shit)


Or you could go with the theory that Walt actually died in New Hampshire and everything that happened in the finale was a dream of his as he died. The fact that Walt is, as Jesse said to Hank, "is luckier than you", is taken to the extreme as everything works out just right for him and he's able to drift in and out of spaces without being seen by anyone.

I don't go with that theory though.

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I think they're trying to show that Tuco isn't quite Full Tuco, yet. Maybe he's not that into doing drugs or just getting started and his brain still functions to some extent - even though he can "smell lies".

I liked that he was cooking. Tuco does a lot of cooking in these shows.


I still want one of those burritos Walt tried to poison.

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 Post subject: Re: Better Call Saul
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I don't think it could be any more clear that the brother is losing his mind.

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
I think they're trying to show that Tuco isn't quite Full Tuco, yet. Maybe he's not that into doing drugs or just getting started and his brain still functions to some extent - even though he can "smell lies".

I liked that he was cooking. Tuco does a lot of cooking in these shows.


I still want one of those burritos Walt tried to poison.


Hey! Any time Tuco wants to stage at Tex Wasabi's, he's more than welcome! Those aren't lies I smell! It's ancho chiles and tomatillos!

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 Post subject: Re: Better Call Saul
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BB watchers will stay with it for sure. People who didn't watch BB, I don't know. He's a very funny character, but my enjoyment of the episode was greatly enhanced b/c of BB.


I never watched Breaking Bad. I saw a few moments of the show, including where Saul is introduced into the series. I thought it was funny enough that I would get in on the ground floor of this series.

I generally liked the first two episodes.

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Cant wait til the episode where Saul convinces a woman he's Kevin Costner


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I don't think it could be any more clear that the brother is losing his mind.


Yes, not only in the way he acts but in the way his law partners react.

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I just watched the final episode of Breaking Bad again on AMC. This might be the single best episode in TV history. Just brilliant.


Ozymandias was the best episode of television ever.


That's a great episode, but there are a few episodes of season 3 of The Wire that immediately come to mind as being superior to any installment of Breaking Bad. Notably, the season finale, the episode where Stringer Bell is killed, and the episode where Stringer reveals the truth about D'Angelo's "suicide" to Avonare all significantly better, in my opinion, than "Ozymandias." I haven't fully worked out my analysis of "The Wire" just yet--it is an incredibly complex cultural production that operates at the level of many canonical social realist novels--but the way it (particularly season 3) interweaves the concepts of dystopia (postindustrial Baltimore)and utopia (Hamsterdam), good and evil (through the use of an expansive set of doppelgangers that establish connections between seemingly opposed figures such as, for instance, Stringer Bell and McNulty), and individual destiny and larger structural economic forces is absolutely remarkable. Breaking Bad (another show where the development of multiple doppelganger pairings is fascinating to watch) is fantastic in part because it brilliantly develops Walter White as a metaphor for White America, but conceptually it can't hold a candle to The Wire.

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I just watched the final episode of Breaking Bad again on AMC. This might be the single best episode in TV history. Just brilliant.


Ozymandias was the best episode of television ever.


That's a great episode, but there are a few episodes of season 3 of The Wire that immediately come to mind as being superior to any installment of Breaking Bad. Notably, the season finale, the episode where Stringer Bell is killed, and the episode where Stringer reveals the truth about D'Angelo's "suicide" to Avonare all significantly better, in my opinion, than "Ozymandias." I haven't fully worked out my analysis of "The Wire" just yet--it is an incredibly complex cultural production that operates at the level of many canonical social realist novels--but the way it (particularly season 3) interweaves the concepts of dystopia (postindustrial Baltimore)and utopia (Hamsterdam), good and evil (through the use of an expansive set of doppelgangers that establish connections between seemingly opposed figures such as, for instance, Stringer Bell and McNulty), and individual destiny and larger structural economic forces is absolutely remarkable. Breaking Bad (another show where the development of multiple doppelganger pairings is fascinating to watch) is fantastic in part because it brilliantly develops Walter White as a metaphor for White America, but conceptually it can't hold a candle to The Wire.


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The guy who plays Tuco looks very old in this show. I know it's been a few years, but guys like Odenkirk, and the older ex-cop who plays Mike generally look the same. Get Tuco some makeup or something.

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The guy who plays Tuco looks very old in this show. I know it's been a few years, but guys like Odenkirk, and the older ex-cop who plays Mike generally look the same. Get Tuco some makeup or something.

Tuco filmed his last BB scene like 7 years before Mike and Saul. It was just more gradual with them.


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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
Scorehead wrote:
I just watched the final episode of Breaking Bad again on AMC. This might be the single best episode in TV history. Just brilliant.


Ozymandias was the best episode of television ever.


That's a great episode, but there are a few episodes of season 3 of The Wire that immediately come to mind as being superior to any installment of Breaking Bad. ...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIom3LSbB0I

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 Post subject: Re: Better Call Saul
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Gilligan did a Breaking Bad Insider podcast which was the best official podcast I'd ever heard (along with Ron Moore's whiskey influenced Battlestar Galactica ones).

They're doing another one - Better Call Saul Insider - going to give it a listen tonight.

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Odenkirk is on the first one.

I find this production stuff interesting but I used to do some production stuff in another life.

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
Odenkirk is on the first one.

I find this production stuff interesting but I used to do some production stuff in another life.

I remember when you stole Daniel LaRusso's gf


I might give that a shot. I remember you raving about the BB podcast. How spoiler-ish is it?


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for what its worth, i was watching this last night when my grandpa passed. i thought it was good but i guess it killed him :wink:

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for what its worth, i was watching this last night when my grandpa passed. i thought it was good but i guess it killed him :wink:

sorry about that ike


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for what its worth, i was watching this last night when my grandpa passed. i thought it was good but i guess it killed him :wink:


Sorry about your grandpa Ike. Sounds like maybe this was for the best in the end for all involved. At least you
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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
Odenkirk is on the first one.

I find this production stuff interesting but I used to do some production stuff in another life.


Is there anything you can't do, Dr.?

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
I think they're trying to show that Tuco isn't quite Full Tuco, yet. Maybe he's not that into doing drugs or just getting started and his brain still functions to some extent - even though he can "smell lies".

I liked that he was cooking. Tuco does a lot of cooking in these shows.

Good call on Tuco and a lot of other good stuff in here
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/12/tuco-breaking-bad-better-call-saul_n_6654794.html


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rogers park bryan wrote:
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
Odenkirk is on the first one.

I find this production stuff interesting but I used to do some production stuff in another life.

I remember when you stole Daniel LaRusso's gf


I might give that a shot. I remember you raving about the BB podcast. How spoiler-ish is it?


They don't do spoilers at all.

But you have to get past 15 minutes of -

"We're so blessed to have you direct for us"
"This is the greatest writing staff God ever created"
"Our facilities manager can reverse tornadoes"

If you don't get the sugar diabeetus from that, there's pretty good/funny stuff in there.

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
Odenkirk is on the first one.

I find this production stuff interesting but I used to do some production stuff in another life.

I remember when you stole Daniel LaRusso's gf


I might give that a shot. I remember you raving about the BB podcast. How spoiler-ish is it?


They don't do spoilers at all.

But you have to get past 15 minutes of -

"We're so blessed to have you direct for us"
"This is the greatest writing staff God ever created"
"Our facilities manager can reverse tornadoes"

If you don't get the sugar diabeetus from that, there's pretty good/funny stuff in there.

Cool, thanks.


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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
Odenkirk is on the first one.

I find this production stuff interesting but I used to do some production stuff in another life.


Is there anything you can't do, Dr.?


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Odenkirk is on the first one.

I find this production stuff interesting but I used to do some production stuff in another life.


Is there anything you can't do, Dr.?


He appears unable to support a decent college athletics program.

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
Odenkirk is on the first one.

I find this production stuff interesting but I used to do some production stuff in another life.


Is there anything you can't do, Dr.?


He appears unable to support a decent college athletics program.


I have unwavering support of a decent college athletic program.

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for what its worth, i was watching this last night when my grandpa passed. i thought it was good but i guess it killed him :wink:


Sorry about your grandpa Ike. Sounds like maybe this was for the best in the end for all involved. At least you
were there for him.


everything went as well as it possibly could have. he wasnt in pain when he passed, he wasnt even awake as far as i could tell and thats exactly the way we hoped he would go.

what im having a hard time with is the simple fact he wont be around anymore. i just dont want him gone

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