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Is it possible to light this thread on fire?

Light your iPad Air on fire and let me know. If it works, I will follow

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Is it possible to light this thread on fire?


It is ON FIRE! Sox fans upset about the Cubs wanting to play EDM Music for an hour before the game....Perfect!

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As discussed before, for the unprecedented tanking to be worth it

How is tanking a couple seasons in order to rebuild "unprecedented"?


Unprecedented for the Cubs, and maybe for any team with the attendance/revenue they have. And it's been more than "a couple."

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 Post subject: Re: EDM CUBS
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spanky wrote:
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As discussed before, for the unprecedented tanking to be worth it

How is tanking a couple seasons in order to rebuild "unprecedented"?


a couple is two

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As discussed before, for the unprecedented tanking to be worth it

How is tanking a couple seasons in order to rebuild "unprecedented"?


a couple is two

So that extra year or two is the unprecedented part?

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 Post subject: Re: EDM CUBS
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spanky wrote:
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As discussed before, for the unprecedented tanking to be worth it

How is tanking a couple seasons in order to rebuild "unprecedented"?


a couple is two

So that extra year or two is the unprecedented part?


three years of intentional tanking, while probably not unprecedented, is certainly uncommon

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 Post subject: Re: EDM CUBS
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That isn't really objective. The Sox are winners over your lifetime. Do you expect them to be the Yankees?

"Winning tradition" to me conjures up thoughts of teams that win a lot. Yankees, Cardinals, Steelers, 49ers, Celtics, Lakers etc


The Sox have an over .500 tradition for sure

And if were going over my lifetime only the Cubs arent too bad at all


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God, I hope this sacrifice/tank job was worth more than playoff races.

What more can reasonably be expected for any MLB team other than the Yankees?


As discussed before, for the unprecedented tanking to be worth it, the Cubs need to be IN the WS at least twice in the next 10 years, or MAKE the playoffs 6 or 7 times (not be in a playoff race, but MAKE the playoffs). Anything less is a failure.

I dont think the tanking is as unprecedented as you say, but regardless, to expect multiple WS is setting yourself up for failure. (and maybe that's your point)


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So, we've concluded EDM is not the end of the world. Great thread.


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 Post subject: Re: EDM CUBS
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The Kids Can Play


The kids did play, even in year 1. They weren't great to the point that the Sox could be a winning team, but it was pretty obvious guys like Ordonez and El Caballo were legit MLB talents.

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So, we've concluded EDM is not the end of the world. Great thread.


what are your thoughts on ATM?

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I still have no clue who EDM is.

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I still have no clue who EDM is.


Neither did/do I. I gather it is Electronic Dance Music from a Google search. :lol:

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I still have no clue who EDM is.


Neither did/do I. I gather it is Electronic Dance Music from a Google search. :lol:

Hatchet, correct. 'the Kids" love it, it is EVERYTHING in Vegas. It attracts kids 18-23? in mass. That dead hour before a game, they want to play it more in the bleachers specifically. It has a few Sox fans very upset.

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It is times like this that I really wish we had a larger post history on here because I remember a lot of comments about the music at US Cellular Field on here coming from Cubs fans.

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rogers park bryan wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

That isn't really objective. The Sox are winners over your lifetime. Do you expect them to be the Yankees?

"Winning tradition" to me conjures up thoughts of teams that win a lot. Yankees, Cardinals, Steelers, 49ers, Celtics, Lakers etc


The Sox have an over .500 tradition for sure

And if were going over my lifetime only the Cubs arent too bad at all


My point is that you don't consider the Sox of the 2000s very good and they averaged 88 wins a season over seven years. Again, even with a ton of the best prospects that have ever been assembled and all the various revenue streams to buy all the pitching they may need, I'll bet a lot right now that the Cubs won't average 88 wins over the next seven seasons. So apparently they are already a failure.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

That isn't really objective. The Sox are winners over your lifetime. Do you expect them to be the Yankees?

"Winning tradition" to me conjures up thoughts of teams that win a lot. Yankees, Cardinals, Steelers, 49ers, Celtics, Lakers etc


The Sox have an over .500 tradition for sure

And if were going over my lifetime only the Cubs arent too bad at all


My point is that you don't consider the Sox of the 2000s very good and they averaged 88 wins a season over seven years. Again, even with a ton of the best prospects that have ever been assembled and all the various revenue streams to buy all the pitching they may need, I'll bet a lot right now that the Cubs won't average 88 wins over the next seven seasons. So apparently they are already a failure.

You're making all sorts of assumptions and leaps here. I never said anything about the White Sox of the 2000's. I said they haven't had a long historic run. Are you saying the 2000's run was historic?


Cubs averaged 84 wins from 03-08. Just for reference.



I love that you set your own parameters based over the next 7 years, guessed that the Cubs wont achieve the arbitrary parameters you set, and so you concluded they've failed already with seven years to go!

Only a Cub hatin Sox fan!


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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
It is times like this that I really wish we had a larger post history on here because I remember a lot of comments about the music at US Cellular Field on here coming from Cubs fans.

What was the general idea of these posts? Cubs have better music?


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i'm not sure what you guys are arguing about. it's obvious a lot of cub fans are getting way way over their skis. which is fine with me since that's all the more pain they'll have to endure later. my only concern is that they win a world series somehow, but the odds are with me so far.

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I believe the stereotypes about Cub fans are untrue, unfair, and borderline criminal but the ones about Sox fans are 100% accurate

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
It is times like this that I really wish we had a larger post history on here because I remember a lot of comments about the music at US Cellular Field on here coming from Cubs fans.

What was the general idea of these posts? Cubs have better music?
Games at Wrigley are a better experience because they are not filled with advertising, pumped in music so you can't hear the person next to you, and instead you can just concentrate on the game.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
It is times like this that I really wish we had a larger post history on here because I remember a lot of comments about the music at US Cellular Field on here coming from Cubs fans.

What was the general idea of these posts? Cubs have better music?
Games at Wrigley are a better experience because they are not filled with advertising, pumped in music so you can't hear the person next to you, and instead you can just concentrate on the game.

I see.

Ive heard versions of that in the past.


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rogers park bryan wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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That isn't really objective. The Sox are winners over your lifetime. Do you expect them to be the Yankees?

"Winning tradition" to me conjures up thoughts of teams that win a lot. Yankees, Cardinals, Steelers, 49ers, Celtics, Lakers etc


The Sox have an over .500 tradition for sure

And if were going over my lifetime only the Cubs arent too bad at all


My point is that you don't consider the Sox of the 2000s very good and they averaged 88 wins a season over seven years. Again, even with a ton of the best prospects that have ever been assembled and all the various revenue streams to buy all the pitching they may need, I'll bet a lot right now that the Cubs won't average 88 wins over the next seven seasons. So apparently they are already a failure.

You're making all sorts of assumptions and leaps here. I never said anything about the White Sox of the 2000's. I said they haven't had a long historic run. Are you saying the 2000's run was historic?


Cubs averaged 84 wins from 03-08. Just for reference.



I love that you set your own parameters based over the next 7 years, guessed that the Cubs wont achieve the arbitrary parameters you set, and so you concluded they've failed already with seven years to go!

Only a Cub hatin Sox fan!



No, you're doing the Cub fan thing where you equate the very good play of the post-WWII White Sox with the atrociousness of the post-WWII Cubs as "both losers". It's bullshit. Be objective. The Sox have played respectable baseball for the most part over the past 70 years. The Cubs are in the conversation of the worst teams in pro sports over the same time frame.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
It is times like this that I really wish we had a larger post history on here because I remember a lot of comments about the music at US Cellular Field on here coming from Cubs fans.

What was the general idea of these posts? Cubs have better music?
Games at Wrigley are a better experience because they are not filled with advertising, pumped in music so you can't hear the person next to you, and instead you can just concentrate on the game.



Wrigley Field was a special place with baseball the way it should be until it wasn't and then it never was.

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Wrigley Field was a special place with baseball the way it should be until it wasn't and then it never was.

Sounds like Theo Epstein chose you for a leadership role, too.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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You're making all sorts of assumptions and leaps here. I never said anything about the White Sox of the 2000's. I said they haven't had a long historic run. Are you saying the 2000's run was historic?


Cubs averaged 84 wins from 03-08. Just for reference.



I love that you set your own parameters based over the next 7 years, guessed that the Cubs wont achieve the arbitrary parameters you set, and so you concluded they've failed already with seven years to go!

Only a Cub hatin Sox fan!



No, you're doing the Cub fan thing where you equate the very good play of the post-WWII White Sox with the atrociousness of the post-WWII Cubs as "both losers". It's bullshit. Be objective. The Sox have played respectable baseball for the most part over the past 70 years. The Cubs are in the conversation of the worst teams in pro sports over the same time frame.

No, see THAT is bullshit. You lower the bar so that whatever the White Sox did can be considered "very good"

You're team didnt win a title for 85 years. That's a fact, no matter how you want to dress it up by celebrating over .500 seasons or saying "hey man, The Yankees are really good"

The Cubs have been worse than the Sox since WW2. The Sox have not been very good though.


And you change the parameters with every post. Are we talking all time? Since WW2? or my lifetime?


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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
It is times like this that I really wish we had a larger post history on here because I remember a lot of comments about the music at US Cellular Field on here coming from Cubs fans.

What was the general idea of these posts? Cubs have better music?
Games at Wrigley are a better experience because they are not filled with advertising, pumped in music so you can't hear the person next to you, and instead you can just concentrate on the game.



Wrigley Field was a special place with baseball the way it should be until it wasn't and then it never was.

Keep equating ALL Cub fans with a radio host who says he's a Sox fan


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