Look at that milquetoast member of the Sox too scared to bother. Meanwhile:

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The Sox are even better over the course of your lifetime. Are you really arguing this? You're far from objective on the matter. It's easier and more convenient for you to just dismiss the conversation with "both losers".

If you define success as winning World Series, every team including the Yankees loses far more often than it wins. That's why the premise that "ALL THAT MATTERS IS A CHAMPIONSHIP!"- is about as dumb as it gets. Averaging 88 wins over seven or eight or ten seasons is a good run. Let's see if these great prospects and free agent pitchers playing in the antique ballpark with EDM can get close to that. It's something to shoot for.

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That statement has nothing to do with any radio hosts. It has to do with the general overall outlook of Cub fans who for years were very proud of their "special" park and now seem to be denying that it is special at all and cheering wholesale changes to it. Are you really going to argue that it was only a fringe group of Cub fans who boasted of the greatness of "the Wrigley Experience"?

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in the past 46 years, the Sox have had a winning record 17 times, so I don't know WTF JORR is talking about. they have a shitty history. they put up a statue of a crippled DH who hit like 200 homers for the team.

however, somehow the cubs have a worse history.

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That's wrong.

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No, Im not. At all. You completely conjured that up on your own. This is why its crazy arguing with you. I have to defend positions that I dont even hold


More objective than you, dude. Drinkin my coffee

Both losers when it comes to winning titles.

Sox are better at being competitive but ultimately not winning the title.




I dont think all that matters is championships but Im also not gonna ignore when a team goes 8 decades without one.

And your premise is not a good one. Numbers dont have to be a majority to be impressive. Getting 30% return on a stock is great. Just like winning championships in 10% of your seasons is great.




Again, never said it wasnt. I said any long great run by the White Sox would be historic. If you are saying that is a long great run, then I disagree on the longevity part.

Im curious, how much better is 88 wins over 7 seasons than 84 over 6?


Certainly

OK. missed the strike years. 20 winning seasons in 46 years. 5 playoffs. BAD.

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How many statements that I havent made are you going to ascribe to me today? 10-15?

Yes, Cub fans boast about Wrigley


Are a majority of them now saying it was never special? Because I doubt that

The kids are playing for the cubs. They haven't been great to the point that the Cubs could be a wining team, but it is pretty obvious guys like Castro and Rizzo are legit MLB talents.

It sure has a lot of views though. You may not post, but you're sure as hell reading it every time I post.

273 posts. Probably half by me. 6771 views.

Don't pretend no one is interested.

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Looking at the Cubs since their last WS appearance: Only 19 times over .500 in 70 seasons. Since 1972, only back-to-back winning seasons: 2003-2004 and 2007-2009.

Maybe it was time for a tank job after all.

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Why was 46 years chosen as some sort of meaningful time period?

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end of sox "hey day" of the 1960s when they never got in the playoffs.

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Hatchet is a self-loathing Sox fan. He wanted to start with the dark days of the late sixties to show how the Sox suck.

If we take a more sensible round number approach and go from 1950, we can see that the Sox have 40 winning seasons since then as opposed to 20 for the Cubs.

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Spanky and his many truths have people on the defensive.

The Chuck Muncie Corollary.

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So why don't those count then?

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Im not sure but its a large enough sample size.


If you wanna just use a round number of 50 then they've had 23 winning seasons (Im assuming H-Man's numbers are right and just adding the three previous years)

Over the last 50 years, the White Sox have been over .500 23 times correct?

Is that very good play?

(Keep in mind, Im not asking if it's better than the Cubs. The Cubs have been bad.)

I would say quite a bit. Even if we don't consider the extra season, 88 wins generally puts a team in contention. 84 is a little better than .500.

This is obviously just the way I feel about it, but I'm happy if the Sox win 87 games. 87 is kind of a magic number in my mind. That's .537. If my team plays .537 or better I feel pretty good about it. I realize it's arbitrary, but between .500 and 87 wins, I kind of just consider it an okay season.

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Thats 101 posts! one post!

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I feel the same way about 84. (Probably because Ive seen an 83 team win a WS)

A cherry picked time frame isn't a sample size though. It would be like choosing World Series championships since 1917.


It would be interesting to see what they other round numbers look like, because it looks like 60 would be pretty favorable for the Sox.

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There have been some good runs and some bad runs. From '68-'70 was atrocious.

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But that's a freakish thing which is why you mention it. Arguably the worst World Series winner ever.

If the Sox win 84 games this year, I'm not really expecting that to get them in the playoffs. That's probably exactly what they'll do too.

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Right, that's why my next line was about 50 years, which IS a sample size.


Yeah, you can skew things with starting points for sure.

60 years would be 33 winning seasons and 27 at or below

I think that falls right in line with my assessment that they've been slightly above average

The NBA must really, really upset you

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hard to get upset about something as trivial as the NBA, but yeah, what kind of sport to try to lose in? is this high school?

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