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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 1:48 pm 
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there's no doubt doing all that shit will make you a healthier person. it's not easy for your average joe with a 50 hour job, wife, kids, stress, etc. to do that.

good luck with it though!

I wouldn't say "no doubt" about anything related to a specific diet as it applies to health. The agreed upon recommendations change more frequently than Score Midday hosts. Eggs, Avocado, Alcohol, Rice, etc. Sugar (including many popular fruits) now seems to be a universally accepted bad. Those juice boxes you put in your kids lunch? Orange juice with breakfast? The only area I don't think has changed in my lifetime is the benefit of exercise, getting a good nights sleep and not smoking or drinking to excess.

C'mon America, Let's Eat!: Susan's Favorite Low-fat Recipes to Fit Your Lifestyle By Susan Powter Spiral-bound – 1996

The Big Fat Surprise: Why Butter, Meat and Cheese Belong in a Healthy Diet By Nina Teicholz – January 6, 2015
You got that shit right on the juice, Bro'. If the ingredients say anything other than "contains orange" it's not for the kids.

I'm fascinated by the new "findings" on butter. The veg-heads hate hearing that shit. Unfortunately, if we don't live on a farm and raise our own stuff we're gonna get the GMO's in the grain the chickens ate to create the egg. Equally unfortunate is that all the crops we eat are contaminated as well, and the further north you live the more vitamin depleted the stuff gets before it gets to us.

As a matter of fact (for those who don't already know) Frozen veggies, packed quickly nowadays has MORE vitamin punch than "fresh".


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 1:57 pm 
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A lot of flavors and a lot of vitamins with 0 sugar and calories. Beats the heck out of pop.


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I just had a donut. now I feel like a loser. :(

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I had the official pizza of the Chicago White Sox for lunch


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 2:07 pm 
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A lot of flavors and a lot of vitamins with 0 sugar and calories. Beats the heck out of pop.


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Some might question the Splenda in the Ice product line. Not sure if I'm reading the rest of your post correctly, but I'm assuming you are not recommending the Vitamin Water.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 2:14 pm 
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Hatchetman wrote:
there's no doubt doing all that shit will make you a healthier person. it's not easy for your average joe with a 50 hour job, wife, kids, stress, etc. to do that.

good luck with it though!
I know, Hatchet. It's damn near impossible. The good news is that every single auto-immune disease can be reversed by diet/exercise (except for cancer that has spread), no matter HOW old you are.

Just stay in reasonable shape 'till the kids are grown and the wife has split...then go for it.


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Hey Zippy,

I drink both. Real tasty

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I'd be doubled over in pain and unable to sleep if I ate that many beans. I like the taste of beans, but man, they kill me.
Sorry to hear that. Beans are the cheapest, most beneficial carbs we have. The problem with quick breakdown carbs like potatoes and white rice/pasta is that overdoing them since childhood leads to pre-diabetes. The estimates of the numbers of American diabetics is staggering. If you are over weight and over 30 the odds are good that you are pre-diabetic.

Oxidation and inflamation are the 2 biggest things we have to worry about. Leads to all kinds of bad shit. Check out this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPQt0fAkOtk


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 2:41 pm 
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Hey Zippy,

I drink both. Real tasty

http://www.motherjones.com/tom-philpott/2013/01/coca-cola-vitamin-water-obesity

In light of Coca-Cola's much-discussed attempt to place itself at the vanguard in the fight against obesity it's worth taking look at its line of "enhanced waters," known as Glacéau vitaminwater. You could be forgiven for thinking the product is a life-giving nectar. The made-up word Glacéau evokes the purity of glaciers. Vitamins are essential nutrients. And water is an unimpeachable ingredient.

Coca-Cola's marketing encourages the healthy image. According vitaminwater's website, the Power -C flavor of vitaminwater delivers "zinc and vitamin C to power your immune system"; while the XXX offers "antioxidant vitamins to help fight free radicals and help support your body." And so on.

But not everyone's convinced that vitaminwater does a body good. Back in 2009, the Center for Science in the Public Interest sued Coca-Cola for making "deceptive and unsubstantiated" health claims about the products. In 2010, a US federal district court judge rejected Coca-Cola's motion to dismiss the suit (document here), noting that Coke's lawyers had made a remarkable argument: "At oral argument defendants suggested that no consumer could reasonably be misled into thinking vitaminwater was a healthy beverage."

In other words, no one actually believes our flashy marketing—it's obviously nonsense. The vitaminwater suit still hasn't been resolved, a CSPI spokesperson informed me. And hilarity over Coca-Cola's cynical defense strategy is ongoing, too.

Just for fun, I checked out the ingredients of "orange-orange"-flavored vitaminwater, which are remarkably similar to the other 11 flavors (also listed in that link). Here they are :

Reverse osmosis water, crystalline fructose, cane sugar, less than 0.5% of: citric acid, magnesiumlactate and calcium lactate and potassium phosphate (electrolyte sources), natural flavors, vitamin C (ascorbic acid), gum acacia, vitamin B3 (niacinamide), vitamin E (alpha-tocopheryl acetate), vitamin B5 (calcium pantothenate), glycerol ester of rosin, vitamin B6 (pyridoxine hydrochloride), vitamin B12, beta-carotene, modified food starch, sorbitol.

So, it contains less than 0.5 percent of a whole list of stuff (none of which has anything to do with this particular flavor's namesake fruit, the orange), and thus at least 99.5 percent water, crystalline fructose, and sugar. Crystalline fructose, it turns out, is an even more processed version of high-fructose corn syrup—it provides a pure jolt of fructose. "Cane sugar" is about half fructose and half glucose. There's a growing body of literature, described ably by Gary Taubes in his 2011 New York Times Magazine piece "Is Sugar Toxic," suggesting that refined sweeteners, and in particular their fructose component, are driving a range of health problems including diabetes. Recently, UCLA researchers have found evidence that "a diet steadily high in fructose slows the brain, hampering memory and learning." And then there's the emerging suspicion that diets high in refined sweeteners can trigger Alzheimer's disease. In a 2012 Mother Jones piece, Taubes and Cristin Kearns Couzens showed how the sugar industry has worked hard over the decades to suppress and downplay such research.

So what Coke is passing off as "enhanced water" is mostly just sugar water; or as CSPI has put it, "vitamins + water + sugar + hype = soda - bubbles." Granted, there's less sugar in vitaminwater (19 grams per 12 oz.) than in, say, Coca-Cola classic (39 grams per 12 oz.). But it's still pretty sugary.

Coke charges about twice as much for its vitaminwater as it does for Coca-Cola Classic."
What about the other 0.5 percent of vitaminwater—the vitamin part? It includes electrolytes—the stuff found in sports drinks. It turns out that electrolyte-laden drinks are mostly hype. As for all those vitamins, there's little or no evidence that vitamin supplements do much to improve health. "We have an enormous body of data telling us that plant-rich diets are very healthy," Josephine Briggs, head of the National Institute of of Health's National Center for Complementary and Alternative Medicine told The Wall Street Journal in 2011. "As soon as we take these various antioxidants [and other nutrients] out and put them in a pill, we're not consistently getting a benefit."

In other words, you're much better off getting your vitamins from whole foods than from sugary drinks.

What, then, is vitaminwater good for? Well, it does seem to provide good profit margins for its maker. At Staples, you can pick up an assorted 12-pack of assorted 20-oz. vitaminwaters for $19.99. That's about 8 cents per ounce. Another form of Coca-Cola-produced sugar water, Coca-Cola Classic, fetches $11.99 for a 24-pack of 12-oz. cans at Staples. That's about 4 cents per oz. So Coke gets about twice as much for its vitaminwater as it does for its flagship product.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 2:49 pm 
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Coke is also touting some new super-milk that has 50% more protein and is apparently pastuerized and processed to the point its good for like 3months


http://www.theimpulsivebuy.com/wordpres ... -fat-milk/


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Fairlife’s Chocolate Reduced Fat Milk is pricey, contains artificial sweeteners, goes through an unfamiliar filtering process, and is distributed by one of the world’s largest beverage companies


sounds healthy to me


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This is one of my favorite threads in a while. So silly, yet I can stop reading.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 2:56 pm 
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This is one of my favorite threads in a while. So silly, yet I can stop reading.


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Which one is you?


:lol: :lol:


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:lol: :lol:


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[quote="Bagels"]Coke is also touting some new super-milk that has 50% more protein and is apparently pastuerized and processed to the point its good for like 3months


http://www.theimpulsivebuy.com/wordpres ... -fat-milk/


[quote] Yikes! They just don't get it. They think the words "low fat" will sell anything. Carnivores thrive on fat. Ever see a fat leopard? Manatees and hippos thrive on veg...ever see a skinny hippo?

Goddammit! Your body converts fat into sugar! It converts everything into sugar. Sugar is our fuel. Now if one sits on his ass and eats nothing but fat, bread, 'taters or whatever they're gonna get fat. Move it or lose it!


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That looks great, but I bet I can't afford it! I brew my own...5 bags of green with 2 bags of ol' Lipton per gallon of water. Two more weeks and I'm weaned off the Lipton. Slow and steady....


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Im eating some potato chips and drinking a Presidente right now. #HealthNut

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3 rum & cokes and a Merit Ultra-Light


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3 rum & cokes and a Merit Ultra-Light

Ultra light cigs but no diet coke?

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already had my first martini. on to beer. don't want to get too liquored for bible study tonight.

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A bunch of spaghetti and now celery with peanut butter. Beer will be had when I get off work around 10.

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What a thread!


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So Panther is St Louis Bull Man, right?

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I'm livin' on reds, vitamin C, and cocaine.

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That cant be. He was supposed to retire.

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I'm livin' on reds, vitamin C, and cocaine.

I I can say is, ain't it a shame

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So Panther is St Louis Bull Man, right?
I take it Panther is some kind of self righteous health nut? Did 'yall run him out of here, or what?

BTW, if anyone has any novel methods of getting to sleep w/o getting drunked up I'm all ears.




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The over the counter sleep aids work for me, but I've been taking them for years and would really like to stop using 'em. Tried melatonin, but it doesn't work for me.


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