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PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2015 7:52 am 
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The one thing that leads me to think that Thibs may be on the firing line is Sam Smith. He has been increasingly critical of Thibs. He is questioning strategy and rotations on a weekly basis now. I know that a lot of things he says are half baked but he does write for the teams official website. In his last column he praised the drafting of GarPax and implied that their ability to draft players later in the first round was the reason that these players are performing at a high level. He also stayed that he believed McDermott should have began the season as a starter. He also stated that the Bulls offense is predictable and Thibs propensity to call every play is the reason that the team gets off to slow starts. He has to be parroting the thoughts of management on this stuff. No doubt about it.

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But remember, Sam Smith doesn't speak on behalf of the Chicago Bulls. He just works for them.

Between Smith's columns and Bernstein pushing THE NARRATIVE of Thibs being an autistic freak who can't work with his players or his bosses, his sacred sacred bosses, I'd say Thibs is gone. I hope he does well with the Knicks next year.

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if garpax is realli smart they dont let go of the 2nd beast coach in the league

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Yeah whatever. I bet Fred Hoiberg takes his vacation time!

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Curious Hair wrote:
But remember, Sam Smith doesn't speak on behalf of the Chicago Bulls. He just works for them.

Between Smith's columns and Bernstein pushing THE NARRATIVE of Thibs being an autistic freak who can't work with his players or his bosses, his sacred sacred bosses, I'd say Thibs is gone. I hope he does well with the Knicks next year.


It definitely looks that way. Sam Smith is a mouthpiece for the organization. I wonder if he was the one that Van Gundy was referring to when he stated that Bulls management has the media in their hip pocket. I like reading his stuff but he never criticizes Rose or Garpax. Regardless of the situation he will always apologize for them.

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Etwaun Moore and Hinrich shouldn't see the floor.
You lose again.

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Your basketball acumen is of the elementary variety. You're basing your evaluation on an alley oops dunk that occurred when the game was well in hand. It's interesting that you failed to note that the guy I advocated for scored 19 and the other guy was 3 for 3. Actually Moore didn't play until the last 3-4 minutes of the game. Its obvious you caught a highlight somewhere and decided to provide drive by analysis. You're way off on this one but that's sort of a recurring theme in your case so it's no need to get worked up.
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Long time guy taken to the woodshed!

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Long time guy taken to the woodshed!


It took you two an entire month to have an Etwaun Moore moment. Snell has already proven the point that I was attempting to make. I know you continue to fight the good fight though because its kind of what you do. I've already won that one.

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long time guy wrote:
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Long time guy taken to the woodshed!


It took you two an entire month to have an Etwaun Moore moment. Snell has already proven the point that I was attempting to make. I know you continue to fight the good fight though because its kind of what you do. I've already won that one.


2014-2015 Season

ETwaun Moore per 36

48.9% FG%, 36% 3P%, 3.4 RPG, 2.0 APG, 1.3 STL, 10.9 PPG

Tony Snell per 36

44.0% FG%, 39.4% 3P%, 4.3 RPG, 1.3 APG, 1.0 STL, 11.2 PPG

More minutes does not equal a better player. It means he is playing more minutes.

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He's more like LaRussa with the Sox. Jerry is allowing one of his goofs to do it again.

I didnt want to start a big thing so I went with Belichick but yes, this is very similar to the LaRussa thing


Paxson and Hawk are in Jerry's family. LaRussa and Thibs are not

Larussa is very much in Jerrys family. More than hawk.

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IMU wrote:
long time guy wrote:
IMU wrote:
Long time guy taken to the woodshed!


It took you two an entire month to have an Etwaun Moore moment. Snell has already proven the point that I was attempting to make. I know you continue to fight the good fight though because its kind of what you do. I've already won that one.


2014-2015 Season

ETwaun Moore per 36

48.9% FG%, 36% 3P%, 3.4 RPG, 2.0 APG, 1.3 STL, 10.9 PPG

Tony Snell per 36

44.0% FG%, 39.4% 3P%, 4.3 RPG, 1.3 APG, 1.0 STL, 11.2 PPG

More minutes does not equal a better player. It means he is playing more minutes.

Good day to you.
It's over. Just like the Carmelo talk!

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
IMU wrote:
long time guy wrote:
IMU wrote:
Long time guy taken to the woodshed!


It took you two an entire month to have an Etwaun Moore moment. Snell has already proven the point that I was attempting to make. I know you continue to fight the good fight though because its kind of what you do. I've already won that one.


2014-2015 Season

ETwaun Moore per 36

48.9% FG%, 36% 3P%, 3.4 RPG, 2.0 APG, 1.3 STL, 10.9 PPG

Tony Snell per 36




44.0% FG%, 39.4% 3P%, 4.3 RPG, 1.3 APG, 1.0 STL, 11.2 PPG

More minutes does not equal a better player. It means he is playing more minutes.

Good day to you.
It's over. Just like the Carmelo talk!



I always get the feeling that whenever advanced stats are used its a cover for a weak argument. Snell has already shown that with more playing time he is the better player. You waited an entire month for an a-ha moment. That is even weaker. I have moved on from this one. Its obvious Snell should have been playing. That is not debatable. Hold on I have to know the personnel. That is the key.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
IMU wrote:
long time guy wrote:
IMU wrote:
Long time guy taken to the woodshed!


It took you two an entire month to have an Etwaun Moore moment. Snell has already proven the point that I was attempting to make. I know you continue to fight the good fight though because its kind of what you do. I've already won that one.


2014-2015 Season

ETwaun Moore per 36

48.9% FG%, 36% 3P%, 3.4 RPG, 2.0 APG, 1.3 STL, 10.9 PPG

Tony Snell per 36

44.0% FG%, 39.4% 3P%, 4.3 RPG, 1.3 APG, 1.0 STL, 11.2 PPG

More minutes does not equal a better player. It means he is playing more minutes.

Good day to you.
It's over. Just like the Carmelo talk!




Jeff Van Gundy happens to agree with me on Anthony. That's good enough for me

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long time guy/ Bernstein= match.

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denisdman wrote:
long time guy/ Bernstein= match.

Winners. Always.

Thanks for finally passing the Ryne Sandberg perception test.

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I don't even know what that means, but it made me laugh. I just like declaring Bernstein a winner (done it five times today). #truthhurts

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denisdman wrote:
long time guy/ Bernstein= match.

Winners. Always.



I did seem to notice that when Snell was running off a string of good games it was conspicuously silent around these parts. Now that Moore hits a game winner you are Johnny on the spot. It took you a month to get around to this. What were you waiting for "one shining moment" to play in the background?

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Oh I wasn't arguing with you. I was declaring you a winner to piss other people off. I have no horse in this game, seriously. You were just a pawn in my game of declaring Bernstein a winner all over CSFMB.

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Oh I wasn't arguing with you. I was declaring you a winner to piss other people off. I have no horse in this game, seriously. You were just a pawn in my game of declaring Bernstein a winner all over CSFMB.


He has been rightly about a few things lately. BRick and IMU not so much.

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Well, I am not stepping in that one. I believe Brick is on the Bernstein wins bandwagon too. But he can speak for himself....he doesn't need (or want) my help, I assure you of that.

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Well, I am not stepping in that one. I believe Brick is on the Bernstein wins bandwagon too. But he can speak for himself....he doesn't need (or want) my help, I assure you of that.
No need to try and reason with a bug after you smash it.

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I always get the feeling that whenever advanced stats are used its a cover for a weak argument. Snell has already shown that with more playing time he is the better player. You waited an entire month for an a-ha moment. That is even weaker. I have moved on from this one. Its obvious Snell should have been playing. That is not debatable. Hold on I have to know the personnel. That is the key.

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Snell is such a great shooter. Lol

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IMU wrote:
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I always get the feeling that whenever advanced stats are used its a cover for a weak argument. Snell has already shown that with more playing time he is the better player. You waited an entire month for an a-ha moment. That is even weaker. I have moved on from this one. Its obvious Snell should have been playing. That is not debatable. Hold on I have to know the personnel. That is the key.

Bump

Snell is such a great shooter. Lol



At no point did I ever say that he was a great shooter but how good can Etwaun Moore be if his career game was considered to be a game in which he scored 19 points. A career game that has taken him four years to achieve. I also noticed that he 0-5 on Friday and conspicuously you and your comrade Brick were noticeably silent. Snell has already settled this one. You're simply whistling past the graveyard.

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I always get the feeling that whenever advanced stats are used its a cover for a weak argument. Snell has already shown that with more playing time he is the better player. You waited an entire month for an a-ha moment. That is even weaker. I have moved on from this one. Its obvious Snell should have been playing. That is not debatable. Hold on I have to know the personnel. That is the key.

Bump

Snell is such a great shooter. Lol



At no point did I ever say that he was a great shooter but how good can Etwaun Moore be if his career game was considered to be a game in which he scored 19 points. A career game that has taken him four years to achieve. I also noticed that he 0-5 on Friday and conspicuously you and your comrade Brick were noticeably silent. Snell has already settled this one. You're simply whistling past the graveyard.

Stats don't lie. You can choose to compare one game, I can choose to compare one game. Who cares?

I gave you their entire 2014-2015 season stats. Neither is good. Neither is terrible. They are average. They are comparable.

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I don't recall you stating that Etwaun Moore is avg. 2 points a game. What stats are you referring to? Tony Snell has demonstrated that he deserves to play. He has demonstrated that he should have played over Moore or Hinrich. I never said that he was great or a future hall of famer. He is better than two guys that received playing time ahead of him. That was my essential point and it has been proven.

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Let's see. I have Sam Smith writers hall of famer that agrees with me about Snell and his playing time. You have Brick message board hall of famer agreeing with you? Whose opinion carries more weight?

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I don't recall you stating that Etwaun Moore is avg. 2 points a game. What stats are you referring to? Tony Snell has demonstrated that he deserves to play. He has demonstrated that he should have played over Moore or Hinrich. I never said that he was great or a future hall of famer. He is better than two guys that received playing time ahead of him. That was my essential point and it has been proven.

You don't seem to understand how per game isn't a valid way to compare a player that plays 19 minutes a game to a player that plays 9 minutes per game. And I understand that this is on account of you being a dumb shit. For much of the season, E'Twaun Moore has had three guards ahead of him on the depth chart. For much of the season, Tony Snell has had practically no players ahead of him on the depth chart, since Butler plays both the 2 and the 3.

When you take amount of minutes out of the equation (which team makeup dictates), E'Twaun Moore has shown to be the more efficient player. Better than Snell in some ways, worse in others...but all around more dependable. Again, not that E'Twaun Moore is a good player. Neither him nor Snell are much to be excited about.

Also, if you are the NBA fan you claim to be, you'd know that Sam Smith is a laughing stock.

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And you wonder why I always reference Dan Bernstein while engaging dumb motherfuckers such as you. During the period in which I commented about Tony Snell he was routinely receiving DNPS Coaches Decision. Etwaun Moore was receiving playing time while he was sitting on the bench. His avg minutes per game only increased in the last month. He was not playing. I don't give a rats ass about some advanced stats Bullshit. Every players number would look good over 36 minutes. The motherfucker avg two points a game and you are celebrating when he scores eight points. Tony Snell has had at least 5 twenty point games after i stated he should be playing. Etwaun Moore in four yrs I guess has never had a twenty point game. He should not have been playing ahead of Tony Snell. That point has been proven. If he has a bad game then you come out of the woodwork to say see i told you so. You come across as a stupid motherfucker by continuing to argue the point. Tony Snell has proven that he deserves to play. Etwaun Moore avg 2 points a game and you are singing his praises. My original point has been validated.

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The Bulls once traded for a bum named Steve Coulter. I was maybe 10 yrs old at the time. You want to know the rationale that they used for trading for the damn stiff. Advanced stats. He was a backup guard with Portland before they traded for him. They used advanced stats as a reason for trading for his bum ass. They surmised that his production would increase drastically if he played a full game. His bench player numbers were so good that if you prorated him over an entire game he would be an all star. The motherfucker was about 23 or 24 at the time and if he lasted four more yr in the league I am exaggerating. From that point on I never believed in stupid shit such as advanced stats. Continue to justify arguments by pointing to shit such as minutes per game and I will continue to render you a dumbass. Etwaun Moore and Hinrich at the time I wrote this were receiving playing time ahead of Tony Snell. They should not have been. He is a better player plain and simple. That has been proven.

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And you wonder why I always reference Dan Bernstein while engaging dumb motherfuckers such as you. During the period in which I commented about Tony Snell he was routinely receiving DNPS Coaches Decision. Etwaun Moore was receiving playing time while he was sitting on the bench. His avg minutes per game only increased in the last month. He was not playing. I don't give a rats ass about some advanced stats Bullshit. Every players number would look good over 36 minutes. The motherfucker avg two points a game and you are celebrating when he scores eight points. Tony Snell has had at least 5 twenty point games after i stated he should be playing. Etwaun Moore in four yrs I guess has never had a twenty point game. He should not have been playing ahead of Tony Snell. That point has been proven. If he has a bad game then you come out of the woodwork to say see i told you so. You come across as a stupid motherfucker by continuing to argue the point. Tony Snell has proven that he deserves to play. Etwaun Moore avg 2 points a game and you are singing his praises. My original point has been validated.

Go look at Kirk Hinrich's Per 36 and tell me if "every players' number" would look good over 36 minutes.

Last year E'Twaun Moore's per game stats: 19 MPG, 43% FG, 35% 3P, 76% FT, 1.7 RPG, 1.4 APG, 6.3 PPG - 20 games with double digit scoring

Last year Tony Snell per game stats: 16 MPG, 38.4% FG, 32% 3P, 75% FT, 1.6 RPG, 0.9 APG, 4.5 PPG - 13 games with double digit scoring

E'Twaun Moore had better statistics than Tony Snell last year, unequivocally. Why?

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