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"Thibodeau, according to sources, was a big advocate of last summer's Doug McDermott draft-day acquisition."

I was under the impression, because I listen to sports radio, that Doug was GarPax's guy.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 11:28 am 
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Can you post the article?

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Do you think that K.C. Johnson might be shilling for Garpax?

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Do you think that K.C. Johnson might be shilling for Garpax?

KC Johnson had this story months ago. :)

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Do you think that K.C. Johnson might be shilling for Garpax?

KC Johnson had this story months ago. :)


I'm wondering if Garpax gave him the OK to run with it. Expect a lot of stories to be leaked now. They are laying the groundwork for Thibs departure. This is a good example of what Van Gundy meant when he stated that the Chicago media is in management's hip pocket. It is unfortunate that Van Gundy is in Thibs's hip pocket

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Shirk the whole thing on Thibs, sure. Big advocate of the guy he won't play. That makes sense.

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Shirk the whole thing on Thibs, sure. Big advocate of the guy he won't play. That makes sense.


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Shirk the whole thing on Thibs, sure. Big advocate of the guy he won't play. That makes sense.


What better way to discredit Thibs than to suggest that he was an advocate of drafting McDermott? particularly if he wants more say in player personnel decisions.

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so thibs picks a guy, and then doesnt play him because the guy isnt mature enough yet to play nba ball. SHOCKING CHICAGO NEWS RIGHT HERE FOLKS WE NEED TO SOUND ALL ALARMS AND FIRE THE COACH :roll:

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not mature enough? McDermott's older than a third of the players in the NBA. Dougie McBucketts is who he is: he'll be fine coming off the bench for some Euro team.


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not mature enough? McDermott's older than a third of the players in the NBA. Dougie McBucketts is who he is: he'll be fine coming off the bench for some Euro team.


hes 23 and i wasnt speaking about age. nba maturity is a very finicky thing.

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Is McDermott really that bad? I wasn't a fan of drafting him. Is he that bad to where he doesn't deserve to play. The three was a position of need and there were a lot people that believed he would be starting by now and he is not even playing. He looks like a bust at this point. He is not the typical rookie either given his age.

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The only way Thibs leaves this summer is through a trade right? If you're the Bulls, you're hoping someone like Orlando, LA, or Denver, offer their first round pick. Why would GarPax feed this to KC to discredit Thibs' reputation and value this summer? Hasn't the groundwork for Thibs' departure been laid out for the past few months?


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Why would GarPax feed this to KC to discredit Thibs' reputation and value this summer?


Why would a Jerry Reinsdorf team ever spitefully bury someone? They never do that!

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KC has always been in management's pocket. What's worst about KC's constant asskissing to management is he never is given any great scoop and always the last to "break" a story.


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Is McDermott really that bad? I wasn't a fan of drafting him. Is he that bad to where he doesn't deserve to play. The three was a position of need and there were a lot people that believed he would be starting by now and he is not even playing. He looks like a bust at this point. He is not the typical rookie either given his age.


i can defend better than him

and he hasnt been shooting well, so yea... no playing time

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KC has always been in management's pocket. What's worst about KC's constant asskissing to management is he never is given any great scoop and always the last to "break" a story.


money is money and KC cant get a better job so hes not going to do anything to lose this one

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IkeSouth wrote:
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Is McDermott really that bad? I wasn't a fan of drafting him. Is he that bad to where he doesn't deserve to play. The three was a position of need and there were a lot people that believed he would be starting by now and he is not even playing. He looks like a bust at this point. He is not the typical rookie either given his age.


i can defend better than him

and he hasnt been shooting well, so yea... no playing time


At the time McDermott was drafted there were a lot of people advocating for McDermott. They were cool with the pick and even liked the fact that the Bulls traded up to get him. Now there isn't a peep about the fact that he doesn't even play.

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Considering Thibs' track record with young players, I think we should withhold any judgement on McDermott till sometime next year. Butler and Snell both took huge steps forward in their second years. Here's hoping Doug does the same thing as well.


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Considering Thibs' track record with young players, I think we should withhold any judgement on McDermott till sometime next year. Butler and Snell both took huge steps forward in their second years. Here's hoping Doug does the same thing as well.

exactly. he was never considered a plug in the nba and play guy. they knew he would need time. i dont understand all the fuss about him. i just enjoy watching him on defense because its oh my god bad

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IkeSouth wrote:
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Considering Thibs' track record with young players, I think we should withhold any judgement on McDermott till sometime next year. Butler and Snell both took huge steps forward in their second years. Here's hoping Doug does the same thing as well.

exactly. he was never considered a plug in the nba and play guy. they knew he would need time. i dont understand all the fuss about him. i just enjoy watching him on defense because its oh my god bad


Disagree with this. He was considered an NBA ready guy and a guy that would be ready to compete for a starting job from day one. Most people believed that he would have had Dunleavy's job by now. To regularly receive DNP's now is something very few people predicted.

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Matches Malone wrote:
Considering Thibs' track record with young players, I think we should withhold any judgement on McDermott till sometime next year. Butler and Snell both took huge steps forward in their second years. Here's hoping Doug does the same thing as well.

exactly. he was never considered a plug in the nba and play guy. they knew he would need time. i dont understand all the fuss about him. i just enjoy watching him on defense because its oh my god bad


Disagree with this. He was considered an NBA ready guy and a guy that would be ready to compete for a starting job from day one. Most people believed that he would have had Dunleavy's job by now. To regularly receive DNP's now is something very few people predicted.


But I don't think that's the way Thibs coaches. He likes to sit rookies. Of course you could argue Mirotic, but I believe he only got time because of injuries. Otherwise, I think his minutes would've been severely limited just as McDermott's have been. Who knows though, maybe there's something that went on behind the scenes that has affected this whole situation. Maybe what this organIzation needs is a good tie pulling.


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That's the biggest problem that I have Thibs. His player development skills stinks. Guys only play once other guys are injured. That was the case with Butler, Snell, and Mirotic. Remember Thibs was not in favor of trading Deng. The Deng move freed up money for Gasol and also allowed Butler to flourish. He sits guys while continuing to play Hinrich. Hinrich fails both the eye test as well as the stats game yet he continues to trot him out there every game that he is available to play.

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That's the biggest problem that I have Thibs. His player development skills stinks. Guys only play once other guys are injured. That was the case with Butler, Snell, and Mirotic. Remember Thibs was not in favor of trading Deng. The Deng move freed up money for Gasol and also allowed Butler to flourish. He sits guys while continuing to play Hinrich. Hinrich fails both the eye test as well as the stats game yet he continues to trot him out there every game that he is available to play.


I agree, but then he come back and say "well, look how good they're playing in their second year. And that's because I sat them early."
I'm a Hinrich guy, but yes he plays too much. Though in fairness to him, because of the Rose injuries he's been asked to do more than he ever should have been.


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Could go on and on about this Fake.

"Ya know he played College basketball so he knows a few things"

How much of an input Thibbs had, I am not saying nor do I know, but I know who did have the choice and attended no less than 10 of his games. Pax!

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Could go on and on about this Fake.

"Ya know he played College basketball so he knows a few things"

How much of an input Thibbs had, I am not saying nor do I know, but I know who did have the choice and attended no less than 10 of his games. Pax!


McDermott doesn't really fit the Thibs model I will agree with that. I think it was a Pax pick. I think they were going for offensive minded players which was the right way to go. Watching the Bulls struggle to crack 85 points game after game was simply painful.

The problem with the McDermott is not playing thus he may be a bust is that we really don't know. That part falls on Thibs. He refuses to play young guys. The larger question is whether McDermott should be playing? I think he should be playing and I wasn't in favor of the pick.

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While I know Thibbs is not the great communicator and if he was asked 'Will you play him?" what does anyone expect the answer to be? This is Paxsons guy...and he will still pan out, but for KC to write this crap to get in better with Pax....come on man!

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That's the biggest problem that I have Thibs. His player development skills stinks. Guys only play once other guys are injured. That was the case with Butler, Snell, and Mirotic. Remember Thibs was not in favor of trading Deng. The Deng move freed up money for Gasol and also allowed Butler to flourish. He sits guys while continuing to play Hinrich. Hinrich fails both the eye test as well as the stats game yet he continues to trot him out there every game that he is available to play.


I agree, but then he come back and say "well, look how good they're playing in their second year. And that's because I sat them early."
I'm a Hinrich guy, but yes he plays too much. Though in fairness to him, because of the Rose injuries he's been asked to do more than he ever should have been.


Morotic looked like he belonged from the first game of the preseason. Once the regular season started Thibs reverted back to trusting his veterans as he always does and then Morotic began sitting. The usual stuff also crept in which was his defense is poor thus I'm not playing him. He uses that excuse far too much. Morotic flourished once Taj was injured and once Taj returned his minutes were reduced significantly yet again . It was only after the second Taj injury that Morotic secured his spot.
This Bulls team should have been better this yr. There were two all stars even without Rose. They lost far too many games to teams they should have beaten. Thibs has to own some of this. He is not without blame. His rotations from game to game are terrible.

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While I know Thibbs is not the great communicator and if he was asked 'Will you play him?" what does anyone expect the answer to be? This is Paxsons guy...and he will still pan out, but for KC to write this crap to get in better with Pax....come on man!



I'm not buying that this was Thibs pick. Don't get me wrong. If Pax is trying to run away from the McDermott pick then that's bogus. It was definitely his pick.

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Disagree with this. He was considered an NBA ready guy and a guy that would be ready to compete for a starting job from day one. Most people believed that he would have had Dunleavy's job by now. To regularly receive DNP's now is something very few people predicted.


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