Why have three separate Bears' front office's and coaching staffs continued the tradition of thinking they can give Cutler the weapons necessary to win? Do they like getting fired?

This pick had nothing to do with Cutler. He's gone next year. The Bears took the best player available which is the right thing to do when you need everything.

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I'm not a huge fan of this pick myself, but I don't think they made this pick with Jay in mind tbh

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If the rule you followed lead you to this, of what use was the rule?

WR position is overrated. Giant NT's that can stuff at the line for a 3-4 when you need one are not.


White will be good, but the Bears would be better off with a guy like Shelton. I don't think this is a smart football pick as far as team building goes, but White will put up numbers that won't allow this pick to be pointed at as a bad pick.. even tho I don't think White will help this team succeed more than one of the top defensive players the Bears could have nabbed here.

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If the rule you followed lead you to this, of what use was the rule?

Oh so it was just BPA and not them spending a bunch of money on Cutler's old guy and drafting someone that BEST-CASE will be what Marshall was. The Bears are stockpiling weapons for a QB that doesn't know how to use them.

It's fine. The worse they are the better.

You're a big fan of Favre, right?

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Dont think thats it. Its give him 1 more shot, THIS YEAR, because you basically paid him already

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“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”

Then he looks halfway decent and since there's nobody better on the roster (lamest excuse) they keep him for another few years of crushing disappointment.

Cutler is gone after next year. The Bears tried to trade him in the offseason and weren't able to convince anybody to take him. The new bears regime is not beholden to Jay. He's out of here.

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When and if that happens, you can apply your theory, but at this point, why not work with what you have?

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“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”

Oh so you just draft a new, shiny WR for him to mentally ruin for a year then ship him out? Then sign another one of his old pals to lock-in on and only throw the ball to at $10m guaranteed.

Jay Cutler will retire a Bear. The ride never ends.

Only because they couldn't find a sucker by March 15th or whatever that date was. No one wants that guy. We all know it.

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Ok then

Good talk.

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Nobody except for the last three Bear's front offices. The only reason the current one even considered trading him was to bow to fan pressure, now that they realize the rest of the league actually doesnt want to get fired by Cutler they'll try and "make it work."

You don't think Pace tried like hell to get rid of him? Bernsie says so. But I got to think that there's enough teams out there that need a QB... course, with his ridiculous salary...

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Drafting a D lineman would have been the worst mistake the Bears could have made. They're hurt all the time. How's last year's no. 1 pick overall, Clowney, working out for Houston? Better to find these guys in the 2nd and 3rd rounds and hope you can find that Richard Dent at the 203rd pick.

Ok Ruby if we're gonna dream how about finding another Brady or Terrell Davis in the late rounds as well.

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i think it's a combination of what das bagman said and a combination of what i said in the draft thread: i figure john fox and co prolly figure that they can find cromulent defensive players easier in the later rounds than they can sure thing wideouts. it certainly doesnt hurt that the way this team is setup at present that your best bet to make the playoffs is to maximize what you've got on offense, hope cutler is less of a pudwhack, and ride out matt forte for another 1-2 years before his wheels fall off and you're looking to outright replace him.

obviously i can see the noble idea in getting a big bad defensive stud for the defense cuz you gotta start somewhere, but if you have one of those guys surrounded by a bunch of crap they're just gonna double/triple team him into oblivion and then you're still gonna get gashed like last call at a british dive bar. maybe the thought is to load up cutler for at least one more year and hope you can be the coach that finally gets through to him while you add some quality depth to the defense and up that overall picture by a notch or two and then when you've got a better unit you can go and get the stud/s who start to put the defense over the top?

and hey if the cutler plan fails this year it's not like you're going to have a low draft pick next year anyways. maybe they have some big picture vision like their northside counterparts?

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Well said.

I think it would make sense if they tried to get an OT with that 2nd round pick. They have no one at right OT, and Bushrod hasn't exactly been great at left OT. Then you might have a running game to go with the receiver threats. Concentrate on defense next year and hope Fox and Fangio can coach up the defensive guys as they are to get more out of them.

One other drawback in drafting a guy like Shelton is they play about 40% of the time. First and second down that is the max. Never third and fourth down.

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This pick had nothing to do with Cutler.

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If White is a good WR, then the QB doesn't matter. They didn't pick him because of Jay.

I side with him being the best player available. I would have preferred a different position than WR, but what do I know

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As Jurko kept saying, if the guy does his job on 1st and 2nd down then they're in 3rd and long, and you'll gladly take him off the field every time. If it's 3rd and short, he's back out there anyway.

Lotta stupid in this thread.

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