It is currently Fri Jan 31, 2025 5:49 am

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 73 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next
Author Message
PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 9:11 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 4:55 pm
Posts: 3287
pizza_Place: Olde Silver Tavern, Manalapan, NJ [R.I.P.?]
bigfan wrote:
So its a bigger deal to deflate the ball than to beat the crap out of your kid, wife or gf. Got it.


I don't see why this is unreasonable. The NFL should be more concerned about a player attempting to alter the competitive integrity of games than it should be with serving as a shadow judicial system.

_________________
The Bulls haven't done anything wrong, and they're not going to do anything wrong.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 9:21 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:16 pm
Posts: 81625
Dave In Champaign wrote:
bigfan wrote:
So its a bigger deal to deflate the ball than to beat the crap out of your kid, wife or gf. Got it.


I don't see why this is unreasonable. The NFL should be more concerned about a player attempting to alter the competitive integrity of games than it should be with serving as a shadow judicial system.

Wow, Dave in Champ is coming out FOR abuse of children and women

Edgy


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 9:22 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:16 pm
Posts: 81625
Bucky Chris wrote:
LOL


Adam Fonseca ‏@AdamJFonseca 2m2 minutes ago
I hereby refuse to watch another @nfl game until Goodell is fired. Valuing game integrity higher than wellfare of woman is disgusting.

Did Spanky ghostwrite that for him?


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 9:23 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:00 pm
Posts: 30714
rogers park bryan wrote:
Dave In Champaign wrote:
bigfan wrote:
So its a bigger deal to deflate the ball than to beat the crap out of your kid, wife or gf. Got it.


I don't see why this is unreasonable. The NFL should be more concerned about a player attempting to alter the competitive integrity of games than it should be with serving as a shadow judicial system.

Wow, Dave in Champ is coming out FOR abuse of children and women

Edgy

Should the NFL punish them worse than the government has though or can they?

_________________
2018
#ExtendLafleur
10 More Wins


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 9:24 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:16 pm
Posts: 81625
Hawg Ass wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Dave In Champaign wrote:
bigfan wrote:
So its a bigger deal to deflate the ball than to beat the crap out of your kid, wife or gf. Got it.


I don't see why this is unreasonable. The NFL should be more concerned about a player attempting to alter the competitive integrity of games than it should be with serving as a shadow judicial system.

Wow, Dave in Champ is coming out FOR abuse of children and women

Edgy

Should the NFL punish them worse than the government has though or can they?

I was joking.

I dont really have a strong opinion on WHO should punish people who abuse women and kids, but someone should. Probably the govt


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 9:31 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:00 pm
Posts: 30714
I didn't mean you did, just reading a lot of that of how he was punished worse than such and such. Like your opinions and curious what you thought.

_________________
2018
#ExtendLafleur
10 More Wins


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 9:33 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:29 am
Posts: 8116
Location: South Elgin
pizza_Place: Ian's Pizza
Spaulding wrote:
Beardown wrote:

True. Roger showed that he's not a puppet. Cuz it's been reported that he and Kraft are long time friends. Kraft supported him during the Ray Rice stuff. Roger loses Kraft now. But I'll bet he gained the support of other owners cuz a lot of them hate Kraft.


They'll appeal. They'll get something back, maybe draft picks. Money isn't an issue. They'll be fine.


Think Kraft said he would accept their penalties. Brady will appeal it sounds like, though.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 9:34 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:16 pm
Posts: 81625
Hawg Ass wrote:
I didn't mean you did, just reading a lot of that of how he was punished worse than such and such. Like your opinions and curious what you thought.

I dont think the comparison matters. They're just such different situations.

I wouldnt fault the NFL if they stayed out of the Peterson and Rice things though. As long as they cooperate (within reason) with law enforcement.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 9:35 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:29 am
Posts: 8116
Location: South Elgin
pizza_Place: Ian's Pizza
Dave In Champaign wrote:
bigfan wrote:
So its a bigger deal to deflate the ball than to beat the crap out of your kid, wife or gf. Got it.


I don't see why this is unreasonable. The NFL should be more concerned about a player attempting to alter the competitive integrity of games than it should be with serving as a shadow judicial system.


This is exactly right. For one, Rice was eventually suspended indefinitely. Goodell definitely botched the investigation, but he was nonetheless eventually indefinitely suspended and only reinstated when a court said they had to.

Secondly, the criminal justice system let him off the hook with basically probation. That's where the outcry should be.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 9:37 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:00 pm
Posts: 30714
rogers park bryan wrote:
Hawg Ass wrote:
I didn't mean you did, just reading a lot of that of how he was punished worse than such and such. Like your opinions and curious what you thought.

I dont think the comparison matters. They're just such different situations.

I wouldnt fault the NFL if they stayed out of the Peterson and Rice things though. As long as they cooperate (within reason) with law enforcement.

That is very similar to my opinion.

_________________
2018
#ExtendLafleur
10 More Wins


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 9:37 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:29 am
Posts: 8116
Location: South Elgin
pizza_Place: Ian's Pizza
rogers park bryan wrote:
Hawg Ass wrote:
I didn't mean you did, just reading a lot of that of how he was punished worse than such and such. Like your opinions and curious what you thought.

I dont think the comparison matters. They're just such different situations.

I wouldnt fault the NFL if they stayed out of the Peterson and Rice things though. As long as they cooperate (within reason) with law enforcement.


That's the larger issue. Suspending or punishing a player before the courts have completed their process is a ridiculously difficult path to go down.

What if some wacko gets the cops to investigate a player for rape? Should he be punished at that moment? What if it takes months/years to sort itself out? If they punish him in the interim, and he is found innocent, they look horrible.

And if you think the NFL should just suspend them in this situation, I'd like to announce Aaron Rodgers touched me inappropriately.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 9:37 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:16 pm
Posts: 81625
Hawg Ass wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Hawg Ass wrote:
I didn't mean you did, just reading a lot of that of how he was punished worse than such and such. Like your opinions and curious what you thought.

I dont think the comparison matters. They're just such different situations.

I wouldnt fault the NFL if they stayed out of the Peterson and Rice things though. As long as they cooperate (within reason) with law enforcement.

That is very similar to my opinion.

Now Im rethinking it


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 9:38 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:00 pm
Posts: 30714
rogers park bryan wrote:
Hawg Ass wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Hawg Ass wrote:
I didn't mean you did, just reading a lot of that of how he was punished worse than such and such. Like your opinions and curious what you thought.

I dont think the comparison matters. They're just such different situations.

I wouldnt fault the NFL if they stayed out of the Peterson and Rice things though. As long as they cooperate (within reason) with law enforcement.

That is very similar to my opinion.

Now Im rethinking it

:lol:

_________________
2018
#ExtendLafleur
10 More Wins


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 9:39 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:29 am
Posts: 8116
Location: South Elgin
pizza_Place: Ian's Pizza
rogers park bryan wrote:
Hawg Ass wrote:
I didn't mean you did, just reading a lot of that of how he was punished worse than such and such. Like your opinions and curious what you thought.

I dont think the comparison matters. They're just such different situations.

I wouldnt fault the NFL if they stayed out of the Peterson and Rice things though. As long as they cooperate (within reason) with law enforcement.


Also, don't forget the suspension is not only for the cheating, but also for not complying with the investigation.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 9:40 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jun 16, 2004 4:26 pm
Posts: 31155
Location: West Side
pizza_Place: Paisan's in Cicero
rogers park bryan wrote:
Bucky Chris wrote:
LOL


Adam Fonseca ‏@AdamJFonseca 2m2 minutes ago
I hereby refuse to watch another @nfl game until Goodell is fired. Valuing game integrity higher than wellfare of woman is disgusting.

Did Spanky ghostwrite that for him?

:lol: :lol: :lol:

_________________
Seacrest wrote:
I rarely troll.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 9:41 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon May 02, 2011 4:29 pm
Posts: 40829
Location: Everywhere
pizza_Place: giordanos
Dave In Champaign wrote:
bigfan wrote:
So its a bigger deal to deflate the ball than to beat the crap out of your kid, wife or gf. Got it.


I don't see why this is unreasonable. The NFL should be more concerned about a player attempting to alter the competitive integrity of games than it should be with serving as a shadow judicial system.


This.

_________________
Elections have consequences.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 9:44 am 
Offline
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: Sun Apr 04, 2010 10:00 am
Posts: 80221
Location: Rogers Park, USA
pizza_Place: JB Alberto's
Dave In Champaign wrote:
bigfan wrote:
So its a bigger deal to deflate the ball than to beat the crap out of your kid, wife or gf. Got it.


I don't see why this is unreasonable. The NFL should be more concerned about a player attempting to alter the competitive integrity of games than it should be with serving as a shadow judicial system.



Right. Goodell is the commissioner of football, not the commissioner of family law.

Anyway, this whole thing is a big bunch of nothing. bernstein was actually right. Every quarterback in the league likes the ball a certain way and every team does what it can to facilitate it. Rodgers admitted the Packers overinflate the ball for him. Where is his four game suspension?

_________________
Ecclesiastes 5:8


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 9:45 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Apr 14, 2014 10:45 am
Posts: 16843
pizza_Place: Salerno's
Spaulding wrote:

They'll appeal. They'll get something back, maybe draft picks. Money isn't an issue. They'll be fine.



Kraft/Patriots will appeal and get their draft picks back as well as an additional supplemental pick from Indy and Brady's suspension will be reduced to 2 pre-season quarters [Brady's choice]. And Goodell will up the Pats rev-sharing to cover all the fines + some extra for the inconvenience.

Brady getting the first 2 or 3 games off might not be all that bad for Brady/the Pats.

Wk 1 vs Steelers
Wk 2 @ Bills
Wk 3 vs Jacksonville
Wk 4 bye

might as well give Brady the first 3 games off and then he can resume 1st team snaps in practice during the bye and his 38 year old ass won't peter out at the end of the season, the way Manning's has been.

Pats can easily go 2-1 without Brady. And Brady won't have to take the punishment of Jim D-Bag Swartz's Bills defense.

I assume Kraft signed off on this entire suspension + fines + draft picks package. 2015 might be the first time Pats have bothered with their crappy late first round pick in years (not worth keeping--due to the first round salary--unless it's an earlier first rounder who fell). As many people note, NFL owners are happy as hogs in shit that Roger Goodell is the lightning rod he is for all the crap that comes the NFL's way.


Last edited by Hussra on Tue May 12, 2015 9:47 am, edited 1 time in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 9:46 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:16 pm
Posts: 81625
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Dave In Champaign wrote:
bigfan wrote:
So its a bigger deal to deflate the ball than to beat the crap out of your kid, wife or gf. Got it.


I don't see why this is unreasonable. The NFL should be more concerned about a player attempting to alter the competitive integrity of games than it should be with serving as a shadow judicial system.



Right. Goodell is the commissioner of football, not the commissioner of family law.

Anyway, this whole thing is a big bunch of nothing. bernstein was actually right. Every quarterback in the league likes the ball a certain way and every team does what it can to facilitate it. Rodgers admitted the Packers overinflate the ball for him. Where is his four game suspension?

The most interesting part of all of this, to me at least, is that the NFL saw fit to run a sting operation on the Pats.

I dont know what to take from that, but it feels weird.

It should be a nothing but its not. It's a big deal now and will follow Brady forever.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 9:51 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:00 pm
Posts: 30714
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Dave In Champaign wrote:
bigfan wrote:
So its a bigger deal to deflate the ball than to beat the crap out of your kid, wife or gf. Got it.


I don't see why this is unreasonable. The NFL should be more concerned about a player attempting to alter the competitive integrity of games than it should be with serving as a shadow judicial system.



Right. Goodell is the commissioner of football, not the commissioner of family law.

Anyway, this whole thing is a big bunch of nothing. bernstein was actually right. Every quarterback in the league likes the ball a certain way and every team does what it can to facilitate it. Rodgers admitted the Packers overinflate the ball for him. Where is his four game suspension?

Don't know what happened there, but please show me where he admitted they overinflate the ball?

_________________
2018
#ExtendLafleur
10 More Wins


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 9:56 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:00 pm
Posts: 30714
Now I saw it, he says he likes to push the limits to see if they officials will take air out of it.

_________________
2018
#ExtendLafleur
10 More Wins


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 10:32 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Mar 15, 2006 5:35 pm
Posts: 6248
Location: Crown Point, Indiana (obviously)
Quote:
What’s wrong with that NFL report? Marcus saw no evil in the NFL probe. In what ways was the NFL’s investigation a “Keystone cops” endeavor?

Let’s restrict ourselves to just a few such elements. There’s more where this comes from:

The lack of standard league-wide procedures: Part of what follows is irrelevant to the basic questions at hand. But just for the record, the NFL seems to have established no standard procedure concerning the air pressure of footballs in NFL games.

Before each game, NFL referees check the air pressure of the footballs which will be used in the game. Each team provides the dozen footballs it will use on offense.

According to NFL regulations, air pressure of 12.5-13.5 pounds per square inch is acceptable. But the league's now-famous report describes inconsistent practices, some of which are highly relevant to the questions at hand:
Quote:
NFL REPORT (page 36): The details of each officiating crew’s pre-game inspection process nevertheless may vary....Many game officials bring their own air gauge with them to each game. Others may rely on a gauge provided by the home team. Most officials reported that they use digital gauges supplied by Wilson to the NFL. Others have used gauges that they have purchased or otherwise obtained on their own. In addition, some officiating crews adjust the air pressure in a ball only if they determine that it has been set outside of the permissible range, while others may set the pressure of each football to 13.0 psi, regardless of where the balls are initially set by the team, to provide consistency.

Really? Some officiating crews inflate all the footballs to 13.0 pounds per square inch? Other crews allow the footballs to range from 12.5 psi to 13.5 psi, as desired by the teams?

That’s a strangely inconsistent procedure. Beyond that, it seems that the air pressure gauges the officials use can come from pretty much anywhere.

That will turn out to be a key point. Warning! Keystone cops conduct ahead!

A tale of two air gauges: According to the NFL report, Walt Anderson “is one of the most respected referees in the NFL. It is obvious that he conducts his responsibilities with a high level of professionalism and integrity.”

Anderson was head referee for the game in question. But uh-oh! As part of his vast professionalism, he arrived at the game that day with two different air pressure gauges—two different pressure gauges of two different types.

Despite his vast professionalism, Anderson was apparently unaware of an awkward fact which emerged at halftime—his two air gauges produce substantially different air pressure readings! Beyond that, Anderson isn’t sure which of the gauges he used before the start of the game, when he says he determined that all the footballs were within the acceptable range.

It seems these facts could matter a lot. Just continue reading.

Data collection at halftime: According to Anderson, the Patriots’ footballs measured 12.5 psi before the game began. The Colts’ footballs measured 13.0 psi, he said—but he says he doesn’t recall which air pressure gauge he used to obtain these readings.

Uh-oh! During the first half, the Colts intercepted a Patriots’ pass; they apparently believed the ball in question felt soft. Acting with an authority the report doesn’t describe, the Colts measured the ball with their own air pressure gauge, obtaining a reading which was below 12.5 psi.

Alas! By now, a ball which measured 12.5 in the referees’ room should have measured below 12.5, given weather conditions. But despite the vast professionalism which was on display this day, there is no sign in the report that the Colts, or the game officials, understood that elementary fact.

This helped produce the excitement at halftime, in which the pressure of all the Patriots’ footballs was re-measured by two referees. Each referee was given one of Anderson’s two different air pressure gauges to use.

This attempt at data collection contains a Keystone cops element. Uh-oh! According to the NFL report, readings for the Patriots’ footballs consistently differed by 0.3-0.45 psi depending on which gauge was used. And uh-oh! Since Anderson can’t say which gauge he used before the game, there’s no way to make a direct comparison between the pre-game readings and the two sets of readings obtained at halftime.

Meanwhile, due to a shortage of time, the referees only re-measured four of the Colts’ dozen footballs, producing a problematically small “N” for what the report describes as its “control group.” But wait! In the process of measuring those four footballs, another problem surfaced, as was explained in a footnote to page 69 in the NFL report.

Uh-oh! The recorded measurements for one of the Colts’ four footballs were so anomalous that the NFL’s experts decided that the readings for that football had probably been recorded incorrectly! Now, we’re pretty much reduced to an “N” of 3!

Data collection after the game: According to the NFL report, a senior official supervised the data collection at halftime. For reasons which go unexplained in the report, he directed that the Patriots’ footballs should all be re-inflated to 13.0 psi (see page 69).

After the game, this same official decided that four footballs from each team (not all twelve) should be measured yet again. And uh-oh! On one of Anderson’s two gauges, the four Patriots footballs produced these improbable readings (see page 73):

13.50 psi; 13.35 psi; 13.35 psi; 13.65 psi.

The absurdity of this state of affairs should be obvious. In a footnote to page 73, the NFL reports that “our experts” decided to disregard these peculiar post-game readings. At least, we think that's what the NFL said. The league provides this awkward information in tiny type and in confusing language.

At this point, let’s be fair! The NFL hadn’t planned to engage in data collection this day. In some respects, the “Keystone cops” aspect of this operation is therefore understandable.

On the other hand, the NFL can fairly be described as “the gang who couldn’t measure air pressure straight” on this particular day. Consider:

Anderson didn’t record precise psi’s for the footballs he checked before the game. Beyond that, he didn’t know which of his two air pressure gauges he used.

When the referees tried to gather data at halftime, they discovered that the two gauges produced systematically different readings. They only tested four footballs from the Colts, and this meager “N” was reduced to 3 when the NFL judged that one of the readings had been recorded incorrectly.

The readings obtained after the game were so absurd that they were disregarded altogether. Aside from all that, the data collection was perfect!

Did an employee of the Patriots reduce the air pressure in the game balls? It’s certainly possible, based on a range of evidence.

On the other hand, we’re going to make a guess. We’re going to guess that you’ve seen no one mention the “Keystone cops” aspects of this report and investigation. This strikes us as an interesting, unfortunate part of our journalistic scandal culture.

In many ways, the NFL established itself this day as the gang that can’t measure straight. In various ways, its officials seemed completely clueless about the way this whole topic works.

In many ways, this cluelessness produced comical results. But we’ve seen no pundit mention this fact, certainly not Marcus, who began by overstating the degree of certainty the NFL has stated concerning two people’s guilt.

http://dailyhowler.blogspot.com/2015/05/enabling-scandalous-times-ruth-marcus.html

_________________
You can't see me because of internet.

The landowner effectively owns part shares in millions of part-time slaves called, "taxpayers." -Roy L
A Personal Relationship with Jesus?


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 11:58 am 
Offline
1000 CLUB

Joined: Thu Mar 02, 2006 4:29 pm
Posts: 34020
Brady's agent said some harsh things about the NFL and Goodell in his statement yesterday. So it's clear Brady is digging in his heels. I wouldn't be surprised, if the penalty isn't completely overturned in this appeal, that Brady sues the NFL.

He might win in court too. They have no actual evidence on him.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 12:43 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Oct 12, 2006 6:43 pm
Posts: 3715
Location: The Kingdom of Gene Siegel
Suspension will be reduced to two games, fine will be reduced, and one of the draft picks will be returned. Kraft and Goodell will engage in passionate grabass next year in the Bahamas.

_________________
Back off, Warchild. Seriously.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 12:46 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Nov 26, 2006 8:10 pm
Posts: 38609
Location: "Across 110th Street"
Al Davis was right. If in pro football, you're not cheating, you're not trying. (and imo, to assume any organization doesn't is deluded) This is just another example of Goodell being the most ethically compromised "commissioner" since Kennesaw Landis. Bill Simmons was 100% right in calling him a flat out liar.

And yes, I feel this strongly about that asswipe.

_________________
There are only two examples of infinity: The universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the universe.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 2:25 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jan 28, 2009 11:46 am
Posts: 26636
Location: NW SUBURBS OF CHICAGO
pizza_Place: any from anywhere
Image

_________________
favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 3:26 pm 
Offline
1000 CLUB

Joined: Thu Mar 02, 2006 4:29 pm
Posts: 34020
You know who has it made? Those equipment guys. When this first came out I figured they'd be fired to make them the sacrificial lambs. But the Patriots can't fire them.

Because if they did that they'd run to the media and rat out Brady. So I'm sure these guys are actually getting raises. Kraft has to keep these guys close to him and happy.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 6:50 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 4:55 pm
Posts: 3287
pizza_Place: Olde Silver Tavern, Manalapan, NJ [R.I.P.?]
Beardown wrote:
You know who has it made? Those equipment guys. When this first came out I figured they'd be fired to make them the sacrificial lambs. But the Patriots can't fire them.

Because if they did that they'd run to the media and rat out Brady. So I'm sure these guys are actually getting raises. Kraft has to keep these guys close to him and happy.


http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... efinitely/

Quote:
It seems safe to assume we have probably seen the last of The Deflator on the Patriots sidelines.

As part of the league’s announcement of the punishment of the team and Tom Brady for #DeflateGate, the Patriots admitted that “employees John Jastremski and James McNally have been indefinitely suspended without pay by the club, effective on May 6th.”

Jastremski was an assistant equipment man with the team, and a full-time employee, while McNally was a game-day attendant for the officials locker room, and the self-described “Deflator.”

The league announced that neither can be reinstated without league executive vice president Troy Vincent’s approval, and spells out that: “If they are reinstated by the Patriots, Jastremski is prohibited from having any role in the preparation, supervision, or handling of footballs to be used in NFL games during the 2015 season. McNally is barred from serving as a locker room attendant for the game officials, or having any involvement with the preparation, supervision, or handling of footballs or any other equipment on game day.”

Unless Jastremski is secretly related to Red Sox legend Carl Yastrzemski, it’s hard to imagine him resurfacing with the team, considering the level of contact he had with Brady which contributed to the “more probable than not” tampering.

Given McNally’s gameday temp status, and the apparent glee he took in messing with Brady, extorting memorabilia and threatening to go to ESPN in his text messages, it’s a good bet he won’t be hanging around Gillette Stadium any time soon.


So basically what you said, just the exact opposite.

_________________
The Bulls haven't done anything wrong, and they're not going to do anything wrong.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 6:56 pm 
Offline
1000 CLUB

Joined: Thu Mar 02, 2006 4:29 pm
Posts: 34020
It's not the opposite.

Suspended but not fired. If you read it, the NFL made them suspend them. But like I said in the above post, Kraft has to keep them close. If he fires them, they'll sell a "Tell all" interview to the highest bidder because they'll be angry. So they will return to the team.

Florio is assuming they'll be fired. But I don't think so. If they are, it's a BIG mistake.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 10:25 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jul 13, 2006 1:25 pm
Posts: 27055
Quote:
That's how much the Patriots will save - that's right, save - as a result of the punishment handed down by the NFL on Monday. Sure, owner Robert Kraft will have to pay a $1 million fine. But the team would also save four of Brady's game checks, which are $470,588.23 for each week of the 17-week season - about $1.88 million.

Even better: The Patriots get a salary cap credit for the money they don't have to pay Brady, according to the players' union. Some of that will have to go to the player who replaces the three-time Super Bowl MVP on the roster. But the team could spend the rest of it elsewhere, perhaps on a cornerback to bolster its secondary for the entire season.

Player fines go to charity, but the $1 million from the Patriots will go into the NFL coffers to be distributed on a case-by-case basis. Look for it to pay for part of the probe, which lead investigator Ted Wells said on Tuesday cost ''in the millions of dollars.''


http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/des ... ar-BBjGNY2

_________________
the world will always the world. your entire existence is defined by your response.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 73 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 57 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group