Hawks might want that game 2 on the extra day's rest back. They looked a bit listless, like they'd already taken one game from Tampa in Tampa so it didn't matter if they won Game 2 or not. They'll get an extra day off btw Game 4 Wednesday and Game 5 Saturday. After that, it's every other day for the rest of the SCF.

Thought they wore themselves out in the 1st period tonight. Hawks had 19 SOG on the 1st period--and then 19 combined in periods 2 and 3.

I gave up on this team once. It was 2013 down 3-1 to Detroit. No
Matter what sense says I stay on the wagon.

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Kane and Toews never go scoreless an entire series, I trust they'll have their moments coming up.

Dissapointing game for the Captain though. I lost count of how many bad angle shots from the boards he took when he had options.

I think Seabrook is gassed but it's hard to tell because he plays a lazy game in the first place.

The Lightning are good but they're still very raw. They are faster and create with their speed but the Hawks make them look foolish at times with their chemistry and skill. The series is more even than people make it out to be. Even the Hawks had to lose to the Wings first.

Winner of Game 4 wins this series.

The Oduya injury should be the #1 concern, not the Bishop injury.

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Hawks are fine. We have seen the Hawks behind in playoff series many many times before. We'll still win it in 6.

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We don’t have a trillion-dollar debt because we haven’t taxed enough; we have a trillion-dollar debt because we spend too much. — Ronald Reagan

Saad scored a goal and had some other good moments in this game.
His overall contribution to this game was.......a wash......at best. Lots of bad moments as well.

But he smiled more than Toews. He always does. Give me Kopitar.

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Bishop's not even concerned with the Bishop injury. He's had quality time to chill out with some books on tape all series. He'll be proficient in Mandarin by game 5.

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I think Jay Zawaski just read your post.

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We don’t have a trillion-dollar debt because we haven’t taxed enough; we have a trillion-dollar debt because we spend too much. — Ronald Reagan

I want the Hawk to win as much as any of you. I'm just finding it hard to see anything positive going forward out of the shitshow I've watched the last two games.

I hope I'm wrong. I want to be wrong.

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Blackhawks in 2010 and 2013 were the younger team playing older teams, with Prongers and Jagrs (like 50?) and average roster age a full year greater than the Blackhawks. I don't think a longer series favors the Hawks this time around like it did in 2010 and 2013

2010
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PHI 27.421
CHI 26.243

2013
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BOS 28.229
CHI 27.325

2015
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CHI 27.756
TBL 26.382

Tampa's GM Steve Yzerman spent 17 years working with Scotty Bowman, first as a player then as part of Bowman's front office.

There was no "shit show" in the last two games, really.

The real shit show was game one. Did you see that one or was that double-med day, thus past your bed time?

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Was this really a shit show? I don't think so. They dominated the TB zone for much of the game, had great looks. Just didn't go in. Last game wasn't as good, but not horrible either.

That <1-yr age difference in 2013 was crucial. I agree.

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You are really going to use those numbers to try and make your point!?!?

27.325 in 2013 and 27.756 in 2015.

Yeah boy those Hawks are just over the god damn hill I tell ya!

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He can throw out a 'xie xie' for those 40-mph floaters tossed at him.

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I'm not sure that being on the younger team benefitted Patrice Bergeron much in that series

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Thank god he wasn't on the older team, otherwise both of his lungs would have been punctured!!

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Well, other than the 2011 SCF, which featured two teams with almost identical average ages, Boston ( 27.626) and Vancouver (27.561), the
younger team in the Stanley Cup Finals has won the Cup every year since 2008.

2008 Wings were the last truly older team to defeat a younger team in the SCF. taking out the Penguins in 6 games. If Pittsburgh could've pushed Detroit to a game 7 that year, they might've done what they did against the old-ass Wings the following year--won the Cup in 7 games despite Detroit jumping out to a 2-0 series lead and leading 3-2 going into Game 6.

The younger team's going to have more legs the longer the SCF series goes. Worked to the Blackhawks advantage vs Flyers and Bruins. I think it's advantage Bolts the longer this series goes.

I don't think the mean age is as relevant as playoff minutes played and by whom.

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Chicago is older than Nashville, Anaheim, and Minnesota too.


CH is right on this one.

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Interesting thought, any results or stats support it?

I'd have to crunch a lot of numbers. But figuring that every NHL team is more or less 26 or 27 years old on average (and getting ever younger), it doesn't seem like there'd be a lot of causality to it. Besides, how are we arriving at these averages? 20-man nightly rosters? Active rosters? 50-man rosters? Kimmo Timonen being old stops mattering once he's a scratch and younger players are assuming his minutes.

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Note the stats presented apply to the Stanley Cup FInals.

Major difference being they have to play the SCF after playing those 3 playoff series.

happy to look at any stats or results CH digs up to support his point w/r/t the Stanley Cup Finals.

Yeah, those are roster wide stats, used as a quick / dirty proxy for more detailed analysis

Probably more significant / relevant might be the age of the top lines/the guys who log the most minutes? Like you said above.

Surprised how predictive it is. Again, we're talking Stanley Cup Finals, a series played after both teams have played 3 rounds of playoff games and 82 regular season games. Kind of hard to dismiss it when it's been so correct in recent years, as teams have adjusted to the post-lockout NHL.

Brian Bickell should never ever play another game as a Chicago Blackhawk. He was fucking BRUTAL tonight. I realize that Q has been successful benching players only to have them return & play well (Teavu, Vermette), but Verteeg is the better matchup against a speed & skill team like the Bolts.

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Alarming stat of the day. In series tied at 1, the road team has gone on to win the Cup 81% of the time when they win game 3. Toews , Kane , etc really need to step it up NOW. Is Sharp even playing anymore? Q needs to find a line combo that can score.

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

No, Hanley said that the road team going up 2-1 has never lost the Final. So with a road-home-road-home upcoming schedule and having to win two, they always have. So that's not good.

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That was a really piss poor effort. The Hawks are pretty fucked here. After the 1st they got their dicks kicked in by a 2 line team.

When a plug like Callahan is dominating you've essentially given up.

Shoot, they're playing a one-legged goalie and can't score.

I get it. The weather is warming up and the cottage in Muskoka is calling. I just hoped they'd give enough a shit for the 4th round.

This looks a lot like the Ducks series so far . Cam Fowler looked great first 3 games . Blackhawks look old slow and tired then they kicked Anaheims ass last 3 games . I can't believe a 2 line one decent defenseman and shaky goalie will hold up over 7 games . Even if they go down 3-1 I've seen them pull it back together .

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

Except the Lightning don't have gutless losers like Getzlaf and Perry and their coach isn't a dope.

Hawks needed Game 3 badly and they gave us....whatever that was.