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How in the hell are you still playing in the minors at the age of 36... ?

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He isn't anywhere as famous as Barry Bonds, but Mike Hessman will soon join the former Giants slugger in the ranks of career home run kings.

Hessman, who plays for the Triple-A Toledo Mud Hens, tied the all-time minor league record Wednesday, hitting his 432nd home run in a 9-3 win for Toledo.

The real-life Crash Davis, 36, is now tied with Buzz Arlett for the record. Hessman has spent half his life in the minors since being drafted by the Braves in 1996.

"I'm just grateful and thankful to keep playing," Hessman told radio reporters after the game.

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You would think the Braves would five him a Bobby Scales type look in September.

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Cool that a guy has made a career out of playing minor league baseball. There are worse fates.

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Cool that a guy has made a career out of playing minor league baseball. There are worse fates.

oh no doubt. I would do it in a heartbeat.

But hard to believe teams would keep a guy around that long.

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denisdman wrote:
Cool that a guy has made a career out of playing minor league baseball. There are worse fates.





I'm guessing he's made over a million .. Pretty damn food ino

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Cool that a guy has made a career out of playing minor league baseball. There are worse fates.


Definitely. A guy I grew up with played almost that long.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/minor ... rter002jef

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I'd probably see if there were better options/pay in Japan before sticking it out in the minors that long

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Cool that a guy has made a career out of playing minor league baseball. There are worse fates.

oh no doubt. I would do it in a heartbeat.

But hard to believe teams would keep a guy around that long.


Have to fill in spots around the real prospects. Most guys figure that's what they are by mid to late 20s and retire since minor leaguers make less than 20k per year.

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Most guys figure that's what they are by mid to late 20s and retire since minor leaguers make less than 20k per year.

Or as 312player calls them, millionaires.

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I looked up this scrubs stats , he's had 5 major league stints from 03-14 .... The league minimum is like 500k right now .


So let's say the league minimum was averaged out @ 300 k in his stints ...that's 5 years @ 300k = 1.5 million ...not to mention the 12 or so years he made 25 k ....Dude has made well over a million dollars in his career.

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I looked up this scrubs stats , he's had 5 major league stints from 03-14 .... The league minimum is like 500k right now .


So let's say the league minimum was averaged out @ 300 k in his stints ...that's 5 years @ 300k = 1.5 million ...not to mention the 12 or so years he made 25 k ....Dude has made well over a million dollars in his career.

Are you really that stupid?

Having a cup of coffee in the majors does not earn you a full annual salary.

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How does that league minimum thing work for those guys that come up for a few games and go back?

Do they make more money for those specific games and then go back down to the minor league salary when he goes back down?

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I could be wrong ..Keyser probably knows ..I always assumed if ya got ONE major league at bat..you get the mininum .

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I could be wrong ..Keyser probably knows ..I always assumed if ya got ONE major league at bat..you get the mininum .

You get the minimum for 1 game. Your scenario would be like going into work for 1 hour, quitting, and then collecting a yearly salary. Do you realize how moronic that sounds?

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Here is the financial breakdown from what I have learned:

First let's discuss the situation for when a player is in the minor leagues.

Minor league players are payed a salary which depends on the level they are currently playing in. For example: Rookie ball players can make around $1200 per month while most players in AAA (the highest level of the minor league) can make around $2000-2500 per month.

For major league players, the minimum salary in 2011 is $414,000 per season. If a minor league player is called up to the majors, he will receive a prorated salary of the $414,000 minimum during his tenure on the MLB team.


http://www.quora.com/How-is-an-MLB-players-compensation-affected-when-he-gets-called-up-from-the-minors

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OK ..I'm wrong , there is no way this guy made a million . 350 k tops ..including signing bonuses .

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Cool that a guy has made a career out of playing minor league baseball. There are worse fates.


Like pulling in $50k annually in Madison, WI.

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How in the hell are you still playing in the minors at the age of 36... ?

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Mike Hessman ties minor league home run record


He isn't anywhere as famous as Barry Bonds, but Mike Hessman will soon join the former Giants slugger in the ranks of career home run kings.

Hessman, who plays for the Triple-A Toledo Mud Hens, tied the all-time minor league record Wednesday, hitting his 432nd home run in a 9-3 win for Toledo.

The real-life Crash Davis, 36, is now tied with Buzz Arlett for the record. Hessman has spent half his life in the minors since being drafted by the Braves in 1996.

"I'm just grateful and thankful to keep playing," Hessman told radio reporters after the game.


I don't see a problem with that. What do they make? 70 or 80k a year? What's wrong with playing ball if you can make that? Maybe I'm high, but even if it's 50k a year, that's more than the average American income.


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How in the hell are you still playing in the minors at the age of 36... ?

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Mike Hessman ties minor league home run record


He isn't anywhere as famous as Barry Bonds, but Mike Hessman will soon join the former Giants slugger in the ranks of career home run kings.

Hessman, who plays for the Triple-A Toledo Mud Hens, tied the all-time minor league record Wednesday, hitting his 432nd home run in a 9-3 win for Toledo.

The real-life Crash Davis, 36, is now tied with Buzz Arlett for the record. Hessman has spent half his life in the minors since being drafted by the Braves in 1996.

"I'm just grateful and thankful to keep playing," Hessman told radio reporters after the game.


I don't see a problem with that. What do they make? 70 or 80k a year? What's wrong with playing ball if you can make that? Maybe I'm high, but even if it's 50k a year, that's more than the average American income.


As I posted earlier they make less than 20k. 2700 a month for six months at top end if you make triple A.

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RFDC wrote:
denisdman wrote:
Cool that a guy has made a career out of playing minor league baseball. There are worse fates.

oh no doubt. I would do it in a heartbeat.

But hard to believe teams would keep a guy around that long.


Not really. Teams have 2 responsibilities at the minor league level.....Develop talent for the parent club and draw fans. Winning and hitting HR's helps with regard to the latter. Plenty of fans who regularly attend minor league games actually care about their team winning minor league championships or a player achieving personal feats like this. As long as the guy is productive and helping his team win, it's easy to understand how he might keep a job. Good for him. With all the gimmicky crap minor league teams do just to get fans in the stands, here is a guy doing something between the lines to that end.

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How does that league minimum thing work for those guys that come up for a few games and go back?

Do they make more money for those specific games and then go back down to the minor league salary when he goes back down?

Prorated for days on the 25-man roster, I'm sure. That's the way the NHL does it on entry-level and veteran two-way contracts, except there are no hard-cap considerations for it in baseball, of course.

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How does that league minimum thing work for those guys that come up for a few games and go back?

Do they make more money for those specific games and then go back down to the minor league salary when he goes back down?

Prorated for days on the 25-man roster, I'm sure. That's the way the NHL does it on entry-level and veteran two-way contracts, except there are no hard-cap considerations for it in baseball, of course.

Baseball reference has him earning $300,000 for his major league service.

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You make big league money for being on the 40 man roster. Technically he could have been in the minors for 3 years....never gotten called up and still made 900k or so. The only difference with being on the 25 is the meal money...which is probably a few bills a day.

Minor league free agents also make decent money comparable to having a real job. He is 36 which means he has been signing free agent deals for probably 10 years. Those can range from 40-75K per year if not more.

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You make big league money for being on the 40 man roster. Technically he could have been in the minors for 3 years....never gotten called up and still made 900k or so. The only difference with being on the 25 is the meal money...which is probably a few bills a day.

Minor league free agents also make decent money comparable to having a real job. He is 36 which means he has been signing free agent deals for probably 10 years. Those can range from 40-75K per year if not more.


Yet 40k year one on 40 man and 80k after that when not in majors but on 40 man.

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If you are in big league camp during spring training you could net a few thousand just on meal money.....but I want to say you do not get paid during the offseason or spring training. That salary is regular season only.

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What do these guys make per diem on the road ? C note ? Per nite ? That count to "salary" ?


This guy should have been in Japan the last decade n been living large .

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What do these guys make per diem on the road ? C note ? Per nite ? That count to "salary" ?


This guy should have been in Japan the last decade n been living large .


Minors 25 a day.
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Scouts get more meal money than minor leaguers. Minor league meal money is bad. Hell minor league everything is bad. Incentive to make to the big leagues. Don't want guys getting comfortable.


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A few years ago it was 20 per day for players and 40 for staff. Getting an envelope with $400 for a 10 day road trip was still kind of cool. You virtually never have to use it....lunch and post game drinks at most. Hotels have breakfast, lunch at the park and post game spread at the park. If a big league player is ever on rehab then you are eating very well as they always get the spread catered from a decent chain restaurant. Seeing a GM pull out the company coupon card at Hooters was classic though. Gotta get that 10 percent off.

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