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Deadspin doing their thing...

http://deadspin.com/report-patrick-kane ... 1722435625

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Hopefully we find out who the girl is soon so we can find her facebook and call her a whore.


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Ha. I think it's safe to say that she was dressed suggestively in shorts and a t-shirt.

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Hopefully we find out who the girl is soon so we can find her facebook and call her a whore.

We can't do that kind of stuff... Goff & Holmes said so.

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She drops all charges and drives away in a new car with a check.

What the Hawks do is another issue....

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Chicago is about to show the world how little it gives a fuck when it comes to athletes and their behavior. National attention will force local media to pretend to care for a couple days, but if they had it their way Kane would be getting away with this scot-free.


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He can call Kobe for advice and lawyers?

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He can call Kobe for advice and lawyers?

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She drops all charges and drives away in a new car with a check.

What the Hawks do is another issue....


If it's statutory rape (which I've seen in some reports), and his DNA is confirmed via a rape kit, I don't know if she would be allowed to drop charges.

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She drops all charges and drives away in a new car with a check.

What the Hawks do is another issue....


If it's statutory rape (which I've seen in some reports), and his DNA is confirmed via a rape kit, I don't know if she would be allowed to drop charges.


Really? She is a minor? Jeez. He'll go away for life if that's the case.

Where did you see that report?


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She drops all charges and drives away in a new car with a check.

What the Hawks do is another issue....


If it's statutory rape (which I've seen in some reports), and his DNA is confirmed via a rape kit, I don't know if she would be allowed to drop charges.


Really? She is a minor? Jeez. He'll go away for life if that's the case.

Where did you see that report?


http://patch.com/illinois/lakeview/rape ... trick-kane

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Would anyone feel better if he was fooled into banging a girl under 18 rather than a classic rape? I would.

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He's 100% fucked if it's statuatory rape. There's no weaseling or "she said she was 18!", it's strict liability shit. Sometimes it's kind of messed up that a 16 yo girl can get into a bar and misrepresent her age, but it's still on Kane. If it were Ikesouth I'd feel a tinge of sympathy, but a pro athlete should know better.


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He's 100% fucked if it's statuatory rape. There's no weaseling or "she said she was 18!", it's strict liability shit. Sometimes it's kind of messed up that a 16 yo girl can get into a bar and misrepresent her age, but it's still on Kane. If it were Ikesouth I'd feel a tinge of sympathy, but a pro athlete should know better.


My wife and I were discussing this the other day about whether the onus is on the guy 100% of the time, even in cases where the girl lies about her age. What if she showed you an ID, which turned out to be fake?

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He's 100% fucked if it's statuatory rape. There's no weaseling or "she said she was 18!", it's strict liability shit. Sometimes it's kind of messed up that a 16 yo girl can get into a bar and misrepresent her age, but it's still on Kane. I
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Still not a defense.

I know there's some very convincing 16 and 17 yo girls out there, but Kane is 26 right? What the fuck are you doing messing around with anything that isn't at least clearly in college?


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Here's the NY jury instruction on statutory rape.

RAPE THIRD DEGREE (E Felony)
(Defendant 21 or More; Complainant Less than 17) PENAL LAW 130.25 (2)
(Committed on or after Nov. 1, 2003)

The count is Rape in the Third Degree.

Under our law, a person is guilty of Rape in the Third Degree, when being twenty-one (21) years old or more, he or she engages in sexual intercourse with another person less than seventeen (17) years old. Under our law, it is also an element of this offense that the sexual intercourse was committed without the consent of that other person.1 Sexual intercourse takes place without a person's consent when that person is deemed by law to be incapable of consent. Under our law, a person is deemed incapable of consenting to sexual intercourse when he or she is less than seventeen (17) years old.2 Thus, the law deems sexual intercourse with such a person to be without that person's consent, even if in fact that person did consent.

It is not a defense to this charge that the actor did not know that the person with whom the actor had sexual intercourse was less than seventeen (17) years old, or that the actor believed that such person was seventeen (17) years old or more on the date of the crime.3

[Add If Applicable:

It is a defense to this charge that the defendant was married to the victim.4 “Married” means the existence of the relationship between the defendant and the victim as spouses which was recognized by law at the time of the alleged commission of this crime.5]


The term, “sexual intercourse,” used in the definition of this crime has its own special meaning in our law. I will now give you the meaning of that term.


SEXUAL INTERCOURSE means any penetration, however slight, of the penis into the vaginal opening. In other words, any penetration of the penis into the vaginal opening, regardless of the distance of penetration, constitutes an act of sexual intercourse. Sexual intercourse does not necessarily require erection of the penis, emission, or orgasm.6


In order for you to find the defendant guilty of this crime, the People are required to prove, from all of the evidence in the case, beyond a reasonable doubt, each of the following (three/four) elements:


1. That on or about (date), in the county of (County) the defendant (defendant’s name), engaged in sexual intercourse with (complainant’s name); and,


2. That the defendant was twenty-one (21) years old or more; [and]


3. That (name of complainant) was less than seventeen (17) years old [and]


[Add if applicable:
4. That the defendant was not married to (name of complainant).]


Therefore, if you find that the People have proven beyond a reasonable doubt, each of those elements, you must find the defendant guilty of the crime of Rape in the Third Degree as charged in the count.


On the other hand, if you find that the People have not proven beyond a reasonable doubt any one or more of those elements, you must find the defendant not guilty of the crime of Rape in the Third Degree as charged in the count.

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America wrote:
Still not a defense.

I know there's some very convincing 16 and 17 yo girls out there, but Kane is 26 right? What the fuck are you doing messing around with anything that isn't at least clearly in college?

Having a son in high school and around those ages, I have seen friends of his that when dressed up look like they could easily be that old.

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America wrote:
Still not a defense.

I know there's some very convincing 16 and 17 yo girls out there, but Kane is 26 right? What the fuck are you doing messing around with anything that isn't at least clearly in college?

hockey has a pretty messed up culture. but isn't well known since hockey is a niche sport.


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He's 100% fucked if it's statuatory rape. There's no weaseling or "she said she was 18!", it's strict liability shit.


As the foreman of a jury that acquitted a guy accused of statutory rape, I can assure you that, as usual, you don't know what the hell you're talking about.

He's probably dead in the water, but not 100%.

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Still not a defense.

I know there's some very convincing 16 and 17 yo girls out there, but Kane is 26 right? What the fuck are you doing messing around with anything that isn't at least clearly in college?

Having a son in high school and around those ages, I have seen friends of his that when dressed up look like they could easily be that old.

Listen to them talk.


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America wrote:
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Still not a defense.

I know there's some very convincing 16 and 17 yo girls out there, but Kane is 26 right? What the fuck are you doing messing around with anything that isn't at least clearly in college?

Having a son in high school and around those ages, I have seen friends of his that when dressed up look like they could easily be that old.

Listen to them talk.

I am not deaf.

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Don Tiny wrote:
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He's 100% fucked if it's statuatory rape. There's no weaseling or "she said she was 18!", it's strict liability shit.


As the foreman of a jury that acquitted a guy accused of statutory rape, I can assure you that, as usual, you don't know what the hell you're talking about.

He's probably dead in the water, but not 100%.

Maybe for some anonymous regular bloke it's possible, but this is Patrick Kane. If it's statuatory he's toast.


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SEXUAL INTERCOURSE means any penetration, however slight, of the penis into the vaginal opening. In other words, any penetration of the penis into the vaginal opening, regardless of the distance of penetration, constitutes an act of sexual intercourse.


So anal is okay?

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Jaw Breaker wrote:
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She drops all charges and drives away in a new car with a check.

What the Hawks do is another issue....


If it's statutory rape (which I've seen in some reports), and his DNA is confirmed via a rape kit, I don't know if she would be allowed to drop charges.


Really? She is a minor? Jeez. He'll go away for life if that's the case.

Where did you see that report?


http://patch.com/illinois/lakeview/rape ... trick-kane


That says nothing about statutory rape.


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America wrote:
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He's 100% fucked if it's statuatory rape. There's no weaseling or "she said she was 18!", it's strict liability shit.


As the foreman of a jury that acquitted a guy accused of statutory rape, I can assure you that, as usual, you don't know what the hell you're talking about.

He's probably dead in the water, but not 100%.

Maybe for some anonymous regular bloke it's possible, but this is Patrick Kane. If it's statuatory he's toast.


You're right ... I should've recalled the string of high-profile celebrities and athletes that consistently have the book thrown at them.

Try not to dig the hole any deeper.

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Beardown wrote:
That says nothing about statutory rape.


I take it you didn't see this part:

The chief of the Erie County District Attorney’s Special Victims Bureau, Roseanne Johnson, has been assigned to the case. The investigation initially was described as a “statutory rape” case. The age of the accuser is unknown, and police have been ordered not to comment publicly on the case at all.

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