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PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2015 12:23 pm 
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Williams lost the team because of the way he handled Bryce Harper. The team doesn't like him and they don't play hard for him.

Rightfully so.

Rightfully so? No. Play hard because you're being paid to, and if you hate the guy that much get him fired like their upstanding NBA peers would.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2015 2:32 pm 
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FavreFan wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
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Williams lost the team because of the way he handled Bryce Harper. The team doesn't like him and they don't play hard for him.

Rightfully so.

Rightfully so? No. Play hard because you're being paid to, and if you hate the guy that much get him fired like their upstanding NBA peers would.

I wasn't clear enough. I mean they were right, to take issue with how he handled Harper, not right that they dont play hard.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2015 2:44 pm 
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The Sox players love Robin because when they make stupid mistakes on defense or on the bases, he doesn't hold them accountable which is why the Sox have been pretty much the worst in the league in those categories since he took over.

This sounds like the same thing I heard about Roenicke with the Brewers and have not seen noticeable tirades by Counsell in the dugout when the same thing happens, how do you know it is not addressed and they are held accountable? I heard about Roenicke when they were winning too.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2015 3:08 pm 
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Another example of Sox fans being obsessed with all things Cubs. No Cub fan posted in your Ventura thread until you wrote this stupid comment.
Here is another example of you not knowing what in the hell you are talking about. A Cubs fans started this thread, and there are 9 posts by Cubs fans in this thread...on the first page alone. I didn't think it was possible for somebody to be this stupid.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2015 4:04 pm 
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
The Sox players love Robin because when they make stupid mistakes on defense or on the bases, he doesn't hold them accountable which is why the Sox have been pretty much the worst in the league in those categories since he took over.




Agreed..like lovie



Ozzie pushed all the right buttons in 05, Ventura never would have pulled that off.

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Please make him leave.
312player is here to stay.

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312player wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
The Sox players love Robin because when they make stupid mistakes on defense or on the bases, he doesn't hold them accountable which is why the Sox have been pretty much the worst in the league in those categories since he took over.




Agreed..like lovie



Ozzie pushed all the right buttons in 05, Ventura never would have pulled that off.


...and that my friend is the source of your teams discontent 10 years later. The named GM at the time still angry that the coach gets more credit for a WS and he is determined to prove everyone wrong. He said it right after they won and has been talking about it for 10 years now.

Came close to solving this issue, except Kenny didnt understand that he was fired in the "Reinsdorf method" , which he actually took as the promotion.

Robin, LaRoche, Coop, Olt, Eaton,Flowers...etc....all means shit....they need to straighten up the front of the house first.

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Agreed, But I don't think Hahn can right this ship tho. The best thing to happen to the Sox is Kenny takes a job elsewhere n Robin retires to spend time with family.

I actually think bringing Ozzie back would be a great move for next season.

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Juiced wrote:
Another example of Sox fans being obsessed with all things Cubs. No Cub fan posted in your Ventura thread until you wrote this stupid comment.
Here is another example of you not knowing what in the hell you are talking about. A Cubs fans started this thread, and there are 9 posts by Cubs fans in this thread...on the first page alone. I didn't think it was possible for somebody to be this stupid.

Damn. RIP, Juiced.

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Frank Coztansa wrote:
Juiced wrote:
Another example of Sox fans being obsessed with all things Cubs. No Cub fan posted in your Ventura thread until you wrote this stupid comment.
Here is another example of you not knowing what in the hell you are talking about. A Cubs fans started this thread, and there are 9 posts by Cubs fans in this thread...on the first page alone. I didn't think it was possible for somebody to be this stupid.

Damn. RIP, Juiced.
Yeah. Juiced should quit the board. No coming back from that.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 8:28 am 
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bigfan wrote:
312player wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
The Sox players love Robin because when they make stupid mistakes on defense or on the bases, he doesn't hold them accountable which is why the Sox have been pretty much the worst in the league in those categories since he took over.




Agreed..like lovie



Ozzie pushed all the right buttons in 05, Ventura never would have pulled that off.


...and that my friend is the source of your teams discontent 10 years later. The named GM at the time still angry that the coach gets more credit for a WS and he is determined to prove everyone wrong. He said it right after they won and has been talking about it for 10 years now.

Came close to solving this issue, except Kenny didnt understand that he was fired in the "Reinsdorf method" , which he actually took as the promotion.

Robin, LaRoche, Coop, Olt, Eaton,Flowers...etc....all means shit....they need to straighten up the front of the house first.


If you don't think KW was a huge part of that WS you are not paying attention. His off season moves were risky but all paid off.

You have some unreasonable assessment of Eaton.

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