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I hope somebody at the Score or ESPN 1000 gets a cop or a lawyer to explain how these things should be handled.

Like I said, her lawyer said whatever was delivered to the door should have been still sealed and stored.


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Typically evidence bags (with the evidence inside) are retained for trial and any potential appeal/retesting. Chain of custody means in part everyone in the chain can take the stand and identify the evidence as well as the same evidence bag.


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Patrick Kane Accuser’s Attorney: Rape Kit Evidence Bag Ripped Open, Tampered With
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(CBS) In a stunning revelation, the attorney for the woman who has accused Blackhawks star Patrick Kane of sexual assault said that the rape kit evidence bag that’s so critical to the case has been tampered with, and he’s called for an independent investigation into how that came to happen.
At a press conference in Buffalo on Wednesday, attorney Thomas Eoannou presented the empty evidence bag, showing that it had been ripped open. It was anonymously left on the doorstep of the accuser’s mother’s home and discovered Tuesday afternoon, Eoannou said. The evidence bag was confirmed to be authentic, as it was labeled with the alleged victim’s name, details on where the rape kit was used and the initials of the nurses who administered the kit, he said.
“I have my grave concerns as to what’s going on here,” Eoannou said. “That’s why we went public with it. That’s why we’re asking for an independent investigation by a separate law enforcement agency. Something seriously has gone amiss.”
Eoannou strongly denied a report that surfaced over the weekend that said Kane’s DNA wasn’t found in the accuser’s genital area or on her undergarments.
“We don’t know what was found where,” Eoannou said. “We have an evidence bag that was ripped open — something was either taken out of it or placed in another bag.
“We’re hoping to get to the bottom of it. We’re hoping to find out how this happened and who had the incentive to modify or tamper with the evidence and finally get to the bottom of it rather than have misinformation about semen in one’s undergarments.”
Eoannou refused to speculate on who might have tampered with the evidence bag, indicating only that the chain of custody had been broken.

Kane, 26, hasn’t been charged in the sexual assault case as officials with the Hamburg police and the Erie County District Attorney’s Office continue to investigate the events surrounding the early morning hours of Aug. 2, when Kane returned to his Hamburg, N.Y., home with a friend, the alleged victim and one of her friends after a night out at the bar. The sexual assault is alleged to have occurred in Kane’s home after that.
Eoannou had no comment on whether he thought Kane would be charged, though he hopes the criminal case will move forward. Prior to Wednesday’s shocking revelation, a grand jury had been expected to be presented evidence in the coming weeks. It’s not clear how this development will affect that.
Evidence bags are typically stored at the lab, the police department or the district attorney’s office, Eoannou said. He wants state police or the FBI to look into how the evidence bag left the custody of investigators.
“In my 30-years plus of being a prosecutor and defense attorney, I have never seen an evidence bag outside of a police lab, the prosecutor’s office or courthouse,” Eoannou said. “Let only find one in the doorway of a rape victim’s mother’s home.”
The alleged victim has “always been determined” to have the truth come out and push forward with prosecuting Kane, Eoannou said.
The “victim bashing” has been “atrocious” for his client, Eoannou said.
“She is absolutely devastated,” he said. “This is a classic example of why rape victims don’t come forward in rape cases. This is the worst example of victim bashing I have seen.”
Kane’s only public comments directly pertaining to the case came last Thursday as the Blackhawks opened training camp at Notre Dame. He maintained his innocence.
“I’m confident that once all the facts are brought to light, I will be absolved of (wrongdoing),” Kane said.
Beyond that, Kane has added he doesn’t know of any timeline for a resolution and has only responded to hockey-related questions.
Kane played in the Blackhawks’ preseason opener Tuesday night at the United Center, a 5-4 win against the Red Wings. However, he didn’t accompany the team to Detroit for Wednesday night’s exhibition, the Associated Press reported.


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I hope somebody at the Score or ESPN 1000 gets a cop or a lawyer to explain how these things should be handled.

Like I said, her lawyer said whatever was delivered to the door should have been still sealed and stored.



Maybe they can get Giangreco's guy.

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Town of Hamburg speaks out...on facebook!

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In regard to the information conveyed today by Mr. Thomas Eoannou, the Hamburg Police Department will cooperate with any authorized investigation regarding the handling of evidence and the procedure of such. That said, The Hamburg Police Department has documentation that unequivocally demonstrates that it's handling of the evidence and the integrity of it's chain of custody of evidence in this case is unassailable. As is policy with active investigations, there will be no further comment regarding this situation.

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Reading the last few pages I don't know if Kaner is the abhorrent human or Julie DiCaro/B&B. Could someone tell me who I should be hating?!!?!


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Reading the last few pages I don't know if Patrick is the abhorrent human or Julie DiCaro/B&B. Could someone tell me who I should be hating?!!?!


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I hope somebody at the Score or ESPN 1000 gets a cop or a lawyer to explain how these things should be handled.

Like I said, her lawyer said whatever was delivered to the door should have been still sealed and stored.


Something leads me to believe this would be more of a "dos and don'ts" type segment for you.

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Town of Hamburg speaks out...on facebook!

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In regard to the information conveyed today by Mr. Thomas Eoannou, the Hamburg Police Department will cooperate with any authorized investigation regarding the handling of evidence and the procedure of such. That said, The Hamburg Police Department has documentation that unequivocally demonstrates that it's handling of the evidence and the integrity of it's chain of custody of evidence in this case is unassailable. As is policy with active investigations, there will be no further comment regarding this situation.

Oh I think it might be assailable.


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Town of Hamburg speaks out...on facebook!

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In regard to the information conveyed today by Mr. Thomas Eoannou, the Hamburg Police Department will cooperate with any authorized investigation regarding the handling of evidence and the procedure of such. That said, The Hamburg Police Department has documentation that unequivocally demonstrates that it's handling of the evidence and the integrity of it's chain of custody of evidence in this case is unassailable. As is policy with active investigations, there will be no further comment regarding this situation.

Oh I think it might be assailable.


Not if the whole bag show today is bullshit.

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The fact that this happened should disqualify the police department(s) who has handled this case. I feel for the alleged victim and her family for having to go through this whole disgusting ordeal.


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Still need to hear from the DA, and/or a PD statement addressing the bag in question.

That City of Hamburg release does not deny or confirm that the bag is legit.

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Right, it's a pretty substantial charge her lawyer just launched at the Police Department. It's important to remember we don't know who is full of shit in this case and hell it could be everyone including Kane, the Victim ( or "Victim"), all 3 lawyers and/or the PD.

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The fact that this happened should disqualify the police department(s) who has handled this case. I feel for the alleged victim and her family for having to go through this whole disgusting ordeal.

Score legal expert Herb Lawrence?

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pittmike wrote:
Spaulding wrote:
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Town of Hamburg speaks out...on facebook!

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In regard to the information conveyed today by Mr. Thomas Eoannou, the Hamburg Police Department will cooperate with any authorized investigation regarding the handling of evidence and the procedure of such. That said, The Hamburg Police Department has documentation that unequivocally demonstrates that it's handling of the evidence and the integrity of it's chain of custody of evidence in this case is unassailable. As is policy with active investigations, there will be no further comment regarding this situation.

Oh I think it might be assailable.


Not if the whole bag show today is bullshit.



Another thing I just remembered is there are two DA departments investigation this. Hamburg and the larger Erie county one.

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Beardown wrote:
I hope somebody at the Score or ESPN 1000 gets a cop or a lawyer to explain how these things should be handled.

Like I said, her lawyer said whatever was delivered to the door should have been still sealed and stored.



Maybe they can get Giangreco's guy.


So, whats the benefit of taking this public?

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The fact that this happened should disqualify the police department(s) who has handled this case. I feel for the alleged victim and her family for having to go through this whole disgusting ordeal.


Uber legal expert Herb Lawrence?


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Not if the whole bag show today is bullshit.


Could it be bullshit? If it was bullshit, the police would be saying it's not the real bag. Some goof did this as a ploy/prank whatever. Nothing to see move along. If it is the real bag how in the world did it end up on mom's doorstep? It should still be in an evidence room somewhere.


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Not if the whole bag show today is bullshit.


Could it be bullshit? If it was bullshit, the police would be saying it's not the real bag. Some goof did this as a ploy/prank whatever. Nothing to see move along. If it is the real bag how in the world did it end up on mom's doorstep? It should still be in an evidence room somewhere.


Sku /bar code on the bag the Lawyer claims they have verified it.

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Lets Lawyer shame Kane's guy. He's most famous as a lawyer for the porn industry and these guidelines
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Box-Cover Guidelines/Movie Production Guidelines

Before selecting a chrome please check facial expression. Do not use any shots that depict any unhappiness or pain.

Do not include any of the following:

No shots with appearance of pain or degradation

No facials (bodyshots are OK if shot is not nasty)

No bukakke

No spitting or saliva mouth to mouth

No food used as sex object

No peeing unless in a natural setting, e.g., field, roadside

No coffins

No blindfolds

No wax dripping

No two dicks in/near one mouth

No shot of stretching pussy

No fisting

No squirting

No bondage-type toys or gear unless very light

No girls sharing same dildo (in mouth or pussy)

Toys are OK if shot is not nasty

No hands from 2 different people fingering same girl

No male/male penetration

No transsexuals

No bi-sex

No degrading dialogue, e.g., "Suck this cock, bitch" while slapping her face with a penis

No menstruation topics

No incest topics

No forced sex, rape themes, etc.

No black men-white women themes


Here's a classy picture of him in his office during a press conference with a Hustler mug behind him

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Not if the whole bag show today is bullshit.
I'd be interested to hear more about this.

What do you mean?

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No degrading dialogue, e.g., "Suck this cock, bitch" while slapping her face with a penis

:lol:

No peeing unless in a natural setting, e.g., field, roadside

:lol: :lol:

No coffins

:lol: :lol: :lol:


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Beardown: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

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Herb Lawrence
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The fact that this happened should disqualify the police department(s) who has handled this case. I feel for the alleged victim and her family for having to go through this whole disgusting ordeal.


Uber legal expert Herb Lawrence?

He's been reading American Jurisprudence between fares.

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Not if the whole bag show today is bullshit.
I'd be interested to hear more about this.

What do you mean?


It was just a thought I had before BF's post about a SKU. Everything is so nuts I thought it possible the lawyer could have a wrong or bag that wasn't the main bag to do something to change the narrative of two guys besides Kane's semen on the victim. I am really at a loss as to how this could happen and now the police claim they are unassailable. Someone is lying.

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I'll throw in my two cents regarding the evidence bag. Back in college, I did a summer internship at a County PD, I spent a few days in the evidence room. The chain-of-custody is a huge deal. LIke in the movies, whenever it is passed from one LEA to another, it has to be signed over. The Rape Kit bag is not like some random bag that is used once and discarded. The same bag would be used throughout the duration of the case. They would use evidence tape to seal it. The tape would be signed and dated. When the evidence bag is unbroken, it would again be sealed up in the same manner w/ the same bag.

How that evidence bag got disconnected from the rape kit contents is a total mystery to me. On top of that, for it to be sent to a family member's house is another head scratcher. THe whole 'anonymous' thing is what I dont understand. It definitely puts the results of the rape kit in question. If you don't agree, imagine if the roles were reversed and it was leaked that Kane's DNA was found. The next day the wrap kit evidence bag arrives at a families member's house. Kane and his lawyers would be up in arms about the chain of evidence, integrity of the lab, integrity of the PD, etc.


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The Lawyer said they went to "Great lengths" to verify it. The bag has a sku/barcode on it. I would think it would be really easy to verify that sticker..and the "great lengths" are just him being a dick.

I question the benefits of this going public.

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