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Kane's lawyer, didn't he say he believed there were no bite marks? And why wouldn't you start with the most important body part in a rape investigation?

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:lol: :lol: :lol:


Are you kidding me? She's getting all of this info that nobody else is getting. Notice she had no sourced information until it was discovered that no DNA was found on Kane? Then she all of the sudden gets 3 or 4 exclusives.

Once again, is the SCORE gonna report this latest one on the updates like shep did not do yesterday?


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Kane's lawyer, didn't he say he believed there were no bite marks? And why wouldn't you start with the most important body part in a rape investigation?


Maybe it's like painting a fence ... start from the top and clean-up the errant drips as you work your way down.


... sorry ...

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Source says rape kit exam of Kane accuser was cut short because of problems with equipment. Could explain lack of DNA


:lol: :lol: :lol:


Are you kidding me? She's getting all of this info that nobody else is getting. Notice she had no sourced information until it was discovered that no DNA was found on Kane? Then she all of the sudden gets 3 or 4 exclusives.

Once again, is the SCORE gonna report this latest one on the updates like shep did not do yesterday?

Its a 3 hour old tweet. I haven't seen that brought up anywhere else but I really haven't looked.

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Kane's lawyer, didn't he say he believed there were no bite marks? And why wouldn't you start with the most important body part in a rape investigation?


Maybe it's like painting a fence ... start from the top and clean-up the errant drips as you work your way down.


... sorry ...

Did Tom rape Becky while Huck painted? Haven't read that in awhile.

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Stink weighs in . Notice the use of "victim" . Why is it sad her camp is now painted in a bad light. ( as it properly should be) . Basically saying no matter what her camp did( calling fabricating evidence a misstep?_) its a shame kane is getting away with something? what the fuck is that? What a waste of bandwidth this shit piece is.


This has now become the strangest, most poorly acted episode of SVU anyone has ever seen. And anyone taking to any form of internet commentary to celebrate a still-in-doubt outcome of this sickening display is only fooling themselves.


As has been reiterated here time and again from Jump Street in this whole debacle, the numbers as a result of the culture we live in always said that this was going to go away with only the slightest inconvenience to Garbage Dick and any hockey proceedings, and now that is all but assured. But absolutely no one comes off looking even the slightest bit professional in this, from the DA to Kane’s camp to the accuser to most emphatically Hawks fans.

While District Attorney Frank Sedita tried to reclaim some semblance of control of the case with their press conference this morning, clearly things spiraled beyond their reach to allow things to get to this point. It was always going to be a “three ring circus” (Sedita’s exact words this morning), but the manner in which it got here could have been predicted by no one. Even from the get go, the sad predictability of the bar owner’s comments tainted public perception early on and it’s only worsened. It seems very unlikely that there is any way this can get even a clean grand jury proceeding let alone an actual trial, and Sedita’s regime will forever wear this case and will hurt the electability he does not mince words about craving.

The Hawks themselves, particularly John McDonough, will also be defined by this. A career’s worth of public relations genius is nearly totally undone at this point, as the team is inexorably linked with the player and this nightmare by their own doing. They chose to stand by their player, reluctantly or not, and give him the pulpit from which to profess his innocence as well as create no consequence for their franchise centerpiece in the crowning event of a lifetime of being enabled. The league itself also showed extreme cowardice in their mealy-mouthed buck passing to the Hawks. Last week at this time the consensus was that the press conference in South Bend was the absolute nadir of the situation, and yet it has gotten exponentially worse since then, with the team and league now being complicit in all of it, particularly telling female fans that being good at sports is a greater asset from a public relations standpoint than being under investigation for a sexual assault is a detriment.

Kane himself and his inner circle have always looked like clowns with his antics prior to these events, if choking women and hurling anti-semitic slurs can be labeled “antics”. But with the aforementioned bar owner and the compromised chauffeur/Buffalo police sergeant on Kane’s payroll coming more to the forefront, things only looked worse for all of them with the raised stakes, even with his complete bungling of his own press conference wherein there was not a question left unappreciated.

And sadly, the victim’s camp is now left with a mark as well. The truth to the origins and motivation behind the mystery evidence bag will likely never come out, but the last 16 hours have all but sealed the fate of this case. Their representation did them a profound disservice by not only going public with the information before it was fully vetted, but also by inadvertently serving up her actual name to the CHUDs. But it’s yet another shining example of the victim being on trial in sexual assault cases. Despite doing everything correctly on paper in going to the hospital and police immediately and not being a part of any kind of settlement talks, the process is still undermined by a mistake on her part, one which she may not have even been party to. And it’s a sickening and saddening commentary on this rape culture that a man with a history of grotesque behavior towards women is given far more benefit of the doubt than the accuser, even if this is a world class fuck up by her mother and her attorney. It once again goes back to intent versus outcome here. Regardless of whatever technicality or misstep that allows Patrick Kane to remain unpunished and enabled, the fact remains this woman felt wronged enough to go through the horrific re-victimization process, which speaks louder to the fact that something terrible happened that night in August than anything else.

But most of all, this has been an all-time ass-showing for any kind group of sports fans, right up there with the Penn State zombies. The response from people, the vast majority of which are white men, has been sickening and emblematic of just what exactly rape culture is. As Sam touched on yesterday even shouting “wait for the facts” from the highest mountain is a passive aggressive pile on to what makes it so difficult for women to come forward in situations like this, when it’s with someone famous or not. That things have spiraled out into the harassment of the victim on any form of social media available to people with only recently developed opposable thumbs is a revalidation of what the point here has always been: that sports and the men who play them are more important than any semblance of a feeling of safety women wrongly think they have a right to. That Julie DiCaro had to be held out of work today because of threats made against her for doing her job is absolutely revolting. And because of that the comments will be closed. We will in no way risk even passively providing a forum for such terrible behavior, let alone one with every single one of our real names attached to it. It is not possible to remove all vitriol and harassment from the internet, but we will control what we can here and on any other communication outlet that we can be found on.

Any so-called Hawks fan persisting that it’s a loud minority or that these people aren’t representative of them now need to take this cue and stand up and shout down these wretched wastes of oxygen. Anything less is tacit endorsement. Even if it’s as a result of the inalienable right of internet commenting being taken away being more important than any rights a woman has the arrogance to believe she has, at least it’s a half-assed step in the right direction. But it’s already too late. The damage has been done here and there will be no reclamation of dignity, let alone any justice done.



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DiCaro is becoming unhinged.

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"The Hawks themselves, particularly John McDonough, will also be defined by this. A career’s worth of public relations genius is nearly totally undone at this point, as the team is inexorably linked with the player and this nightmare by their own doing."

Really tired of hearing shit like this. No he won't and neither will the Hawks. No one will care about this a couple years from now if the Hawks keep winning (which they will).


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I still go back to the Dad. If the daughter didn't know, he had to know of the wife's plan. It was reported that he was a lawyer. I can't believe a lawyer would allow his wife to go along with this. And I don't think there is anyway she does this without informing him.

She might be nuts. But where was he to advise her against this? Unless he's nuts too or unless they are all involved in this money grab.


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"The Hawks themselves, particularly John McDonough, will also be defined by this. A career’s worth of public relations genius is nearly totally undone at this point, as the team is inexorably linked with the player and this nightmare by their own doing."

Really tired of hearing shit like this. No he won't and neither will the Hawks. No one will care about this a couple years from now if the Hawks keep winning (which they will).

This paragraph is really…a thing.


And sadly, the victim’s camp is now left with a mark as well. The truth to the origins and motivation behind the mystery evidence bag will likely never come out, but the last 16 hours have all but sealed the fate of this case. Their representation did them a profound disservice by not only going public with the information before it was fully vetted, but also by inadvertently serving up her actual name to the CHUDs. But it’s yet another shining example of the victim being on trial in sexual assault cases. Despite doing everything correctly on paper in going to the hospital and police immediately and not being a part of any kind of settlement talks, the process is still undermined by a mistake on her part, one which she may not have even been party to. And it’s a sickening and saddening commentary on this rape culture that a man with a history of grotesque behavior towards women is given far more benefit of the doubt than the accuser, even if this is a world class fuck up by her mother and her attorney. It once again goes back to intent versus outcome here. Regardless of whatever technicality or misstep that allows Patrick Kane to remain unpunished and enabled, the fact remains this woman felt wronged enough to go through the horrific re-victimization process, which speaks louder to the fact that something terrible happened that night in August than anything else.

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Hockey Gay wrote:
"The Hawks themselves, particularly John McDonough, will also be defined by this. A career’s worth of public relations genius is nearly totally undone at this point, as the team is inexorably linked with the player and this nightmare by their own doing."

Really tired of hearing shit like this. No he won't and neither will the Hawks. No one will care about this a couple years from now if the Hawks keep winning (which they will).

This paragraph is really…a thing.


And sadly, the victim’s camp is now left with a mark as well. The truth to the origins and motivation behind the mystery evidence bag will likely never come out, but the last 16 hours have all but sealed the fate of this case. Their representation did them a profound disservice by not only going public with the information before it was fully vetted, but also by inadvertently serving up her actual name to the CHUDs. But it’s yet another shining example of the victim being on trial in sexual assault cases. Despite doing everything correctly on paper in going to the hospital and police immediately and not being a part of any kind of settlement talks, the process is still undermined by a mistake on her part, one which she may not have even been party to. And it’s a sickening and saddening commentary on this rape culture that a man with a history of grotesque behavior towards women is given far more benefit of the doubt than the accuser, even if this is a world class fuck up by her mother and her attorney. It once again goes back to intent versus outcome here. Regardless of whatever technicality or misstep that allows Patrick Kane to remain unpunished and enabled, the fact remains this woman felt wronged enough to go through the horrific re-victimization process, which speaks louder to the fact that something terrible happened that night in August than anything else.


I haven't seen that much bullshit in one paragraph in a long time. Breathtaking.

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Becoming?

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badrogue17 wrote:
Hockey Gay wrote:
"The Hawks themselves, particularly John McDonough, will also be defined by this. A career’s worth of public relations genius is nearly totally undone at this point, as the team is inexorably linked with the player and this nightmare by their own doing."

Really tired of hearing shit like this. No he won't and neither will the Hawks. No one will care about this a couple years from now if the Hawks keep winning (which they will).

This paragraph is really…a thing.


And sadly, the victim’s camp is now left with a mark as well. The truth to the origins and motivation behind the mystery evidence bag will likely never come out, but the last 16 hours have all but sealed the fate of this case. Their representation did them a profound disservice by not only going public with the information before it was fully vetted, but also by inadvertently serving up her actual name to the CHUDs. But it’s yet another shining example of the victim being on trial in sexual assault cases. Despite doing everything correctly on paper in going to the hospital and police immediately and not being a part of any kind of settlement talks, the process is still undermined by a mistake on her part, one which she may not have even been party to. And it’s a sickening and saddening commentary on this rape culture that a man with a history of grotesque behavior towards women is given far more benefit of the doubt than the accuser, even if this is a world class fuck up by her mother and her attorney. It once again goes back to intent versus outcome here. Regardless of whatever technicality or misstep that allows Patrick Kane to remain unpunished and enabled, the fact remains this woman felt wronged enough to go through the horrific re-victimization process, which speaks louder to the fact that something terrible happened that night in August than anything else.


I haven't seen that much bullshit in one paragraph in a long time. Breathtaking.
It doesn't matter what her camp did, Kane is still fucking guilty dammit.

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Hockey Gay wrote:
"The Hawks themselves, particularly John McDonough, will also be defined by this. A career’s worth of public relations genius is nearly totally undone at this point, as the team is inexorably linked with the player and this nightmare by their own doing."

Really tired of hearing shit like this. No he won't and neither will the Hawks. No one will care about this a couple years from now if the Hawks keep winning (which they will).


I'm in on that ... like I said, when does McDonough and friends decide enough is enough?

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It doesn't matter what her camp did, Kane is still fucking guilty dammit.


Funny thing is, I still think Kane is guilty (of something, if not rape). This kind of reminds me of Mark Furman...he knew OJ was guilty, but felt he had to plant even more evidence, which backfired.

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It doesn't matter what her camp did, Kane is still fucking guilty dammit.


Funny thing is, I still think Kane is guilty (of something, if not rape). This kind of reminds me of Mark Furman...he knew OJ was guilty, but felt he had to plant even more evidence, which backfired.

I don't think so anymore. Not after these last couple days. Looking more and more like a made up cash grab to me.

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Next time I see Stink (every once in a while I see him at hockey) I'm going to tell him what a piece of shit he is. Maybe run him into the boards for good measure. Shouldn't be too hard, the clown can barely fucking skate.

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Shouldn't be too hard, the clown can barely fucking skate.

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A couple of nuggets from the DA presser:

1. When asked how much he and his department had been inconvenienced by this apparent hoax, Sedita joked that it ruined his watching of last night's football game. :shock: :shock: He then said he was told not to tell any jokes because he's not funny.

2. When asked what he thought of the accuser's attorney, Sedita said Eaonnou was reckless...but sincere. :lol: :lol:

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Next time I see Stink (every once in a while I see him at hockey) I'm going to tell him what a piece of shit he is. Maybe run him into the boards for good measure. Shouldn't be too hard, the clown can barely fucking skate.


Go easy on him.

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Hockey Gay wrote:
"The Hawks themselves, particularly John McDonough, will also be defined by this. A career’s worth of public relations genius is nearly totally undone at this point, as the team is inexorably linked with the player and this nightmare by their own doing."

Really tired of hearing shit like this. No he won't and neither will the Hawks. No one will care about this a couple years from now if the Hawks keep winning (which they will).

This paragraph is really…a thing.


And sadly, the victim’s camp is now left with a mark as well. The truth to the origins and motivation behind the mystery evidence bag will likely never come out, but the last 16 hours have all but sealed the fate of this case. Their representation did them a profound disservice by not only going public with the information before it was fully vetted, but also by inadvertently serving up her actual name to the CHUDs. But it’s yet another shining example of the victim being on trial in sexual assault cases. Despite doing everything correctly on paper in going to the hospital and police immediately and not being a part of any kind of settlement talks, the process is still undermined by a mistake on her part, one which she may not have even been party to. And it’s a sickening and saddening commentary on this rape culture that a man with a history of grotesque behavior towards women is given far more benefit of the doubt than the accuser, even if this is a world class fuck up by her mother and her attorney. It once again goes back to intent versus outcome here. Regardless of whatever technicality or misstep that allows Patrick Kane to remain unpunished and enabled, the fact remains this woman felt wronged enough to go through the horrific re-victimization process, which speaks louder to the fact that something terrible happened that night in August than anything else.


I haven't seen that much bullshit in one paragraph in a long time. Breathtaking.



Things like this is where writers take liberties and shape things. This morning it was made clear by the DA and Kane's lawyer it was not an evidence bag. It was a hospital bag of some sort.

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Mike everything in that paragraph is so utterly biased its abhorrent.

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I'm done whenever anyone says "Rape Culture.". Basically whenever someone says rape you're supposed to treat the accused like a convict and immediately fire/suspend-them-indefinitely and then never even so much as question the accuser lest we be rape-promotimg enablers/fanboys/etc that comprise a rape culture.

And then even if the accusations are proven to be bullshit and possibly nefariously financial in motive if you even THINK about questioning the accuser? RAPE CULTURE!

seriously shady women all across america might as well try to get a payday via false rape allegations cuz they have nothing to lose and everything to gain, including millions of supporters who will champion them in their brave fight against the rape culture!

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Having a bit of trouble with this:

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And sadly, the victim’s camp is now left with a mark as well. The truth to the origins and motivation behind the mystery evidence bag will likely never come out, but the last 16 hours have all but sealed the fate of this case. Their representation did them a profound disservice by not only going public with the information before it was fully vetted, but also by inadvertently serving up her actual name to the CHUDs.

It sounds to me as if the truth came out today. The district attorney sounded very thorough. And perpetuating a lie while releasing the name of a rape accuser is something more than a disservice.

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That Julie DiCaro had to be held out of work today because of threats made against her for doing her job is absolutely revolting.

Arguing with idiots on twitter at 10:30 at night is part of her job? Does she invoice CBS on that? That people threatened her is disgusting, but it was not within the context of her job.

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