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“I was really hoping Nashville would beat us in four games and I could get back to Finland. I was [so pissed off] about how Chicago was treating me.”

According to Raanta, Blackhawks were suffering of weak team spirit and head coach Joel Quenneville didn't seem to like him.

“I noticed that coach didn't like me, in that position it is pretty difficult to fight the windmills,” Raanta said

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Fitting that a guy rooting for the Blackhawks to lose would be a Bernstein's favorite player.

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I often commented on the Hawks suffering of weak team spirit.


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Looks like the Chicago beat writers are helping Raanta cover his ass on this even though the Finnish reporters said he meant what he said. People who can read Finnish are saying there was no mistranslation; he wanted the Blackhawks to get swept in the first round so he could go home.

I get his frustration, but Darling had near-identical stats and wasn't an undersized spaz. Raanta lost the job fair and square. Should he have been in Rockford for their playoffs instead of the press box for Chicago? I dunno, maybe, but who's to say he wouldn't have bitched about that, too? It seems like someone reminded him "hey, dude, you're backing up Henrik Lundqvist now," and that bitching about playing time to the extent that you root against your team is, how you say, inopportune? If he had said this as a Ranger, the New York press would have eaten him for lunch.

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I'm guessing things like this are fairly common in sports. While not the same, there are plenty of stories of athletes who had trips booked before the series was even over. It's a job to a lot. Some don't even like the sports they play but they are good at it so they continue.

Most are smart enough to not say it to the press though.

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It's a job to a lot. Some don't even like the sports they play but they are good at it so they continue.


This is the stuff Bernstein jacks off over with basketball and football players, that these deep and tortured souls would be doing something more fulfilling with their lives if they hadn't had the misfortune of being seven feet tall or 400 pounds. It's not like that with hockey. You have to find the game; the game won't find you. The financial and opportunity costs of developing a hockey career mean you pretty much have to love it, not just like it, to go pro.

While it is just a job, it's a job where you're expected to want the best for your co-workers. Given that Raanta is still in the league, it wasn't very prudent to make it known that he will hope for his teammates to fail when he doesn't get to play, especially when he probably won't get to play very much behind one of the world's best goaltenders.

I appreciated Raanta's significant contributions to the championship team. I wish he would have appreciated his teammates' contributions.

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This is the stuff Bernstein jacks off over with basketball and football players, that these deep and tortured souls would be doing something more fulfilling with their lives if they hadn't had the misfortune of being seven feet tall or 400 pounds. It's not like that with hockey. You have to find the game; the game won't find you. The financial and opportunity costs of developing a hockey career mean you pretty much have to love it, not just like it, to go pro.
I'd say that is an extreme take on what I was saying.

I'm sure every hockey player at some point loved the game but I doubt all of them would be heading to the local ice rink to skate with shakes if they could. The grind and all the other stuff associated with pro sports could burn anyone out.

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Actually, it wouldn't surprise me one bit if shakes has played with retired/washed-out Blackhawks like, I dunno, Steve Passmore or something.

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No engraving for you. Raanta did more for last year's team than Carcillo ever did (which was start fights, get hurt, and rarely dress), but as a judgment-call guy (no 40 games or one Final game), they judged no.

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Does anyone else notice the absence of a name that, all things considered, is really conspicuous in its absence?

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Does anyone else notice the absence of a name that, all things considered, is really conspicuous in its absence?


The dead equipment manager?

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Does anyone else notice the absence of a name that, all things considered, is really conspicuous in its absence?

Backes?

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Yeah. I don't know what leaguewide policy is for including equipment managers, but given how the Hawks like to engrave every executive and most of the support staff, you'd think Reif would be on there. The team masseur is on there.

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Does anyone else notice the absence of a name that, all things considered, is really conspicuous in its absence?

Kesler?

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Once Raanta was deemed unworthy of having his name on the Cup, so was his top consultant.

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Does anyone else notice the absence of a name that, all things considered, is really conspicuous in its absence?

Joe Thornton?

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Are you glitching?

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Are you glitching?

I'm just listing all of the people that will never have their name on the Cup.

Luongo?

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Yeah. I don't know what leaguewide policy is for including equipment managers, but given how the Hawks like to engrave every executive and most of the support staff, you'd think Reif would be on there. The team masseur is on there.

Reif's widow had a nice post about it on Facebook that I saw others shared. She basically said something along the lines of the 52 names being on that Cup being the names of 52 close family members. The Blackhawks have taken care of her and her kids and it's clear.

EDIT: Here is what she posted along with a photo of the egraving:


A name- what's in a name...... It can mean so many different things to so many different people..... to me when I look at this year's Stanley Cup I see my family members names on there 52 times. No one has been been left off or forgotten about. All are listed and covered under one team one family the Chicago Blackhawks! The Best and Classiest organization around. I love them all


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http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/blackha ... -exclusion

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The negative comments Antti Raanta made about the Chicago Blackhawks in a Finnish publication were not the reason he was excluded from the team's 2014-15 season Stanley Cup engravings, a Blackhawks representative said Wednesday.

The Blackhawks submitted to the Hockey Hall of Fame their list of 52 names to be engraved on the Stanley Cup before Raanta’s comments were published, the team representative said, adding "there is zero truth" to Raanta's being left off because of the published comments.

Raanta was quoted in Satakunnan Kansa, a Finnish publication, in early September as saying he rooted against the Blackhawks in the first round of the Stanley Cup playoffs after he was recalled from the AHL to be the Blackhawks’ No. 3 goaltender during the playoffs. Raanta first refuted the quote and later explained he had tried to clarify how he felt at the moment. He has since repeatedly stated that he was grateful for his time with the Blackhawks. He was traded to the New York Rangers in June.

The Blackhawks would have had to petition to have Raanta’s name engraved on the Stanley Cup. Players are automatically included on the Stanley Cup if they appear in half of the team’s regular-season games or in one Stanley Cup finals game. Raanta played in 14 regular-season games and did not appear in a playoff game.

The Blackhawks did petition to include Daniel Carcillo and Joakim Nordstrom on the Cup. Carcillo played in 39 regular-season games and zero playoff games, and Nordstrom played in 38 regular-season games and three playoff games last season.


"Leave him off because he told people he wanted us to lose? Hogwash! That has nothing to do with it. It's just that we have to ask nicely to put some people's names on the Cup and it just so happened we didn't ask nicely for his. We did ask nicely to include a washed-up goon and a forgettable 13th forward."

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Just another reason the Hawks are racist. they don't appreciate the mindset of the Finn.

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