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I was thinking more West Coast Biker, like the patriarch of the Orange County Choppers family.

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He's no west coast biker. He's from upstate NY.....he is probably building Kaner a bike right now.

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DannyB wrote:
I was thinking more West Coast Biker, like the patriarch of the Orange County Choppers family.

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He's no west coast biker. He's from upstate NY.....he is probably building Kaner a bike right now.


Upstate New York? The plot thickens as it comes full circle.

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So when Hayley "con artist" Pandolfi gets indicted by the DA for obstruction, with the media finally publish her worthless name?


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I don't know, but in the meantime, I don't think her name should be on the board.

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I don't know, but in the meantime, I don't think her name should be on the board.

Only reason I referenced it was after her own lawyer outed her first name, its pretty easy to do a google search and come up with it all. That, plus I wanted to beat Hoffy to it.

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I don't know, but in the meantime, I don't think her name should be on the board.

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Buffalo girls are extremely tan and wear tons of makeup.


buffalo gals won't ya...come out...tonight...won't ya...


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I don't know, but in the meantime, I don't think her name should be on the board.

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Yeah, because it isnt everywhere else on the interweb.

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Her own retarded lawyer released her name. It's there and she was part of this hoax so her name deserves to be soiled.


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bigfan wrote:
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I don't know, but in the meantime, I don't think her name should be on the board.

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Yeah, because it isnt everywhere else on the interweb.

Yeah, I don't think it matters at all anymore, unless she or her family are personally here.

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There is nobody by that name listed with the NY state bar. And he looks like a biker on his twitter page. Something is amiss.


Maybe he's part of the Law Tigers: http://www.lawtigers.com/


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Her own retarded lawyer released her name. It's there and she was part of this hoax so her name deserves to be soiled.



Retarded, how edgy.


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Buffalo girls are extremely tan and wear tons of makeup.


buffalo gals won't ya...come out...tonight...won't ya...


You know if his old man hadn't kicked it, it would have been George Bailey on trial for rape.

And everything would have turned out better for Old Man Potter. It would have been a much better movie.

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You know if his old man hadn't kicked it, it would have been George Bailey on trial for rape.

And everything would have turned out better for Old Man Potter. It would have been a much better movie.


Pottersville was lined with strip clubs. He knew what Bedford Falls really wanted.


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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:

You know if his old man hadn't kicked it, it would have been George Bailey on trial for rape.

And everything would have turned out better for Old Man Potter. It would have been a much better movie.


Pottersville was lined with strip clubs. He knew what Bedford Falls really wanted.


Give's "Zuzu's Petals" an entirely different connotation ...

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There was an early tidbit from this whole fiasco that didn't make any sense when it happened, but now it totally does. A few days after the incident Kane had a party at his house for his friends and family to hang out with the Cup. His girlfriend and her family attended the party. At the time I thought that was really odd considering Kane was accused of violently raping someone a few days earlier. But, now it all makes sense. Obviously Kane was able to convince his girlfriend that he did absolutely nothing wrong and he was the victim of a scam and she responded by believing him and standing by him.

In retrospect now that its obvious this was all a blackmail scam that little odd tidbit from 2 months ago makes perfect sense.

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Lemme play devils advocate . If Kane never touched her how did she expect she could get a rape conviction ? She had to have some idea about rape kits, DNA swabs , etc. How did she expect to prove anything ? I'm guessing maybe she did have sex with one of the broes and had regret, trying to pin it on Kane.

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Lemme play devils advocate . If Kane never touched her how did she expect she could get a rape conviction ? She had to have some idea about rape kits, DNA swabs , etc. How did she expect to prove anything ? I'm guessing maybe she did have sex with one of the broes and had regret, trying to pin it on Kane.


If she knew about rape kits then she would've known that having sex with one person and pinning it on another wasn't going to work.

I think based on everything we've seen so far coming from her side of things and her family I would say that Occams Razor would suggest that no, she didn't understand how rape kits and DNA worked when she went to the hospital.

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So, no DNA = No Sex occurred between the two for sure?


Thought I read something about that not being the case, but not sure.


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So, no DNA = No Sex occurred between the two for sure?


Thought I read something about that not being the case, but not sure.


No, its still possible for there to be sex without DNA, but its highly unlikely. A condom would stop most of the DNA, but there would still be skin cells, hair (unless there's no hair down there).

Also, the fact that she was claiming forcible rape makes it even less likely since forcible raps with condoms and no DNA left behind are virtually impossible.

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I've tried to keep an open mind throughout this whole thing.

But, like Julie, I'm biased. Two colleagues and I, and our company, were falsely accused of harassment charges by somebody looking for a money grab. Completely fabricated stuff, hoping to catch a small business unaware, and hoping to get us on retaliation charges when we would get pissed off and fire her. Fortunately, we had, as Bernstein would say, really smart lawyers... and we're not too stupid ourselves. She didn't get a penny.

The whole ordeal lasted five years, however, as that's how long it took to move from a complaint to finding of possible cause by the commission staff, to a full hearing. The insurance company wanted to settle, our company's president to his credit spent more on legal fees than what a settlement would have cost, because he was pissed that somebody had tried to play his company.

Fortunately, almost nobody in our firm, and nobody in our office, believed the accuser. But today, I have some colleagues who take Julie's point of view and would have definitely branded us as guilty. Even though we were the victims. The woman who made up the claims? No recourse against her... except that if she pulls this crap with somebody else, a search will find the ruling from the hearing officer which eviscerates her.

The other night, with the mom and the bag and the whatever.... I really lost it. I was thoroughly depressed, it brought up all of this crap again (the case was dismissed about 7-8 years ago).

I feel like people like Julie owe me a fucking apology for presuming that every man ever accused by a woman is guilty. I'm sorry somebody raped her. I doubt she's sorry about what happened to me.... as it obviously had to be my fault somehow, that I must have given that woman the idea that it was ok to just make shit up. And that goes double for what she thinks about Patrick Kane.

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So, no DNA = No Sex occurred between the two for sure?


Thought I read something about that not being the case, but not sure.


No, its still possible for there to be sex without DNA, but its highly unlikely. A condom would stop most of the DNA, but there would still be skin cells, hair (unless there's no hair down there).

Also, the fact that she was claiming forcible rape makes it even less likely since forcible raps with condoms and no DNA left behind are virtually impossible.


Thats the part that Julie and S Pain really emphasized...."Experts say that doesnt mean a rape didnt occur"

Never did they say "it was highly unlikely"

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Lemme play devils advocate . If Kane never touched her how did she expect she could get a rape conviction ? She had to have some idea about rape kits, DNA swabs , etc. How did she expect to prove anything ? I'm guessing maybe she did have sex with one of the broes and had regret, trying to pin it on Kane.


If she knew about rape kits then she would've known that having sex with one person and pinning it on another wasn't going to work.

I think based on everything we've seen so far coming from her side of things and her family I would say that Occams Razor would suggest that no, she didn't understand how rape kits and DNA worked when she went to the hospital.


I would guess that she was so fucked up she can't really be sure what happened. But it seems as if the definition of rape has become so broad that any approach of a female by a male that is "unwanted" might be classified as rape. I think she understood what a rape kit is, what she didn't understand is that it is much more difficult to get a rape conviction in an actual court of law than it is on WSCR or Julie DiCaro's Twitter feed.

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At this point, it really comes down to the report about the Kane dna under her fingernails. If that isn't there then there isn't any credible evidence of anything. If there is, then it is at least plausible that something happened though clearly not enough for a conviction or even a trial given the other circumstances.

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shakes wrote:
badrogue17 wrote:
Lemme play devils advocate . If Kane never touched her how did she expect she could get a rape conviction ? She had to have some idea about rape kits, DNA swabs , etc. How did she expect to prove anything ? I'm guessing maybe she did have sex with one of the broes and had regret, trying to pin it on Kane.


If she knew about rape kits then she would've known that having sex with one person and pinning it on another wasn't going to work.

I think based on everything we've seen so far coming from her side of things and her family I would say that Occams Razor would suggest that no, she didn't understand how rape kits and DNA worked when she went to the hospital.


I would guess that she was so fucked up she can't really be sure what happened. But it seems as if the definition of rape has become so broad that any approach of a female by a male that is "unwanted" might be classified as rape.

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At this point, it really comes down to the report about the Kane dna under her fingernails. If that isn't there then there isn't any credible evidence of anything. If there is, then it is at least plausible that something happened though clearly not enough for a conviction or even a trial given the other circumstances.



DNA under the finger nails only proves that they had some sort of physical contact, but it doesn't mean that it involved a struggle. if all they have is DNA under the fingernails talk of conviction or trial is unwarranted as the real question is if that is even enough to warrant any sort of criminal charges. I would say no.

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shakes wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
At this point, it really comes down to the report about the Kane dna under her fingernails. If that isn't there then there isn't any credible evidence of anything. If there is, then it is at least plausible that something happened though clearly not enough for a conviction or even a trial given the other circumstances.



DNA under the finger nails only proves that they had some sort of physical contact, but it doesn't mean that it involved a struggle. if all they have is DNA under the fingernails talk of conviction or trial is unwarranted as the real question is if that is even enough to warrant any sort of criminal charges. I would say no.


Which is what BRick said.


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People say he shouldn't do it. Just let it go. But if Kane didn't rape her, if he didn't even have sex with her, if I'm him, once they drop the case, I'm suing her. Then I'm gonna make her settle before it goes to court. And Dad will pay for her cuz he knows it would be more money if it went to court.


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shakes wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
At this point, it really comes down to the report about the Kane dna under her fingernails. If that isn't there then there isn't any credible evidence of anything. If there is, then it is at least plausible that something happened though clearly not enough for a conviction or even a trial given the other circumstances.



DNA under the finger nails only proves that they had some sort of physical contact, but it doesn't mean that it involved a struggle. if all they have is DNA under the fingernails talk of conviction or trial is unwarranted as the real question is if that is even enough to warrant any sort of criminal charges. I would say no.


Which is what BRick said.


not really.

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Yes it was. Read what I said again.

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